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I can't find the post now that mentioned the need to run trump because of demonstrated performance. The problem is the voters we need aren't fans of what he demonstrated. Since he won the general, his candidates, and he himself, have been rebuked on every occasion.

Running trump again is 100% guaranteed loss. There isn't even a question.
 
Hike prices at the stores most affected. They already shut down one in Louisville because it was in a shitty neighborhood and theft was rampant. Walmart needs to go back to their roots and stay out of the inner cities. they got their start by plopping their big stores in rural communities that weren't nearly as ripe for theft.
 
Head in the sand. Told you to do a quick Twitter search but you just dont want to know, do you?

You somehow know every little detail about Trump, MAGA, etc but don’t know anything about this?

You have your comfy liberal world and nothing is going to change that, not even the truth.

That is truly living in an imaginary world.
Twitter is garbage as a legit news source.....But even Musk is turning on your Orange Idol.
 
The irony is that a vast majority of Americans actually think Trump and his cult are the evil ones ruining our great country.
Interesting take so please answer this (I’ll be surprised if you respond at all though). Compare and contrast the 4 years under trump vs the 2 under Biden and point out in bullet points ( just a few is fine) how Americans and America in general are better off now than then. How is trump ruining the country today? He has zero power in politics/policy. Most of his policies that were helping the vast majority of Americans have been reversed. I’ll hang up and listen!!!
 
How is that done? Trump is going to do what Trump is going to do. Dumping him would create a monumental shit show as he goes scorched earth destroying any legitimate challenge to his throne. I agree that I wish he would step aside for the greater good, but that's not Trump. We have to ride it out to it's logical conclusion, and sadly Trump has managed to turn the left into a bunch of screaming, hypocritical tyrants hellbent on keeping power and destroying their political enemies, and vilifying average American citizens who aren't down for their tyranny, as Domestic terrorists in the process.
By dumping, do you mean not voting for him; i.e., Pubs have no choice but to vote for Trump?
 
I can't find the post now that mentioned the need to run trump because of demonstrated performance. The problem is the voters we need aren't fans of what he demonstrated. Since he won the general, his candidates, and he himself, have been rebuked on every occasion.

Running trump again is 100% guaranteed loss. There isn't even a question.
I hope by " The problem is the voters we need aren't fans of what he demonstrated" you mean language & eruptions, not policies, because I think his policies were & are well-received by the majority. He & not them are the issue imo.
 
Interesting take so please answer this (I’ll be surprised if you respond at all though). Compare and contrast the 4 years under trump vs the 2 under Biden and point out in bullet points ( just a few is fine) how Americans and America in general are better off now than then. How is trump ruining the country today? He has zero power in politics/policy. Most of his policies that were helping the vast majority of Americans have been reversed. I’ll hang up and listen!!!
They think they're better off because they're not dealing with Trump's personal dumbshittery. I.e., not seeing or listening to him is even more important than their economic well-being. Seems stupid, but that is what is happening imo.
 
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Agree that Walker was not exactly a stellar candidate, but I thought Trump endorsed David Perdue in the GA GOP Senate primary (?). Trump's endorsement is great to have if you want to win a GOP primary; not so great in a state-wide race unless you're running in a solid red district / state.


Perdue ran for Governor.


He should not have. He should have run for Senate and he would have gotten 50% on election night (probably similar vote totals to Kemp).

What is happening in GA and AZ is bad for America and bad for the long-term viability of the R party.
 
I can't find the post now that mentioned the need to run trump because of demonstrated performance. The problem is the voters we need aren't fans of what he demonstrated. Since he won the general, his candidates, and he himself, have been rebuked on every occasion.

Running trump again is 100% guaranteed loss. There isn't even a question.

I realize there are a lot of Republicans who think this.

But when is the last time an R won a critical election that wasn't easily winnable?

Just Trump. I think the opposite of what you think is actually true. ANy R that runs is 100% loss, and/or an R that "wins," is 100% indistinguishable from a loss.
 
By dumping, do you mean not voting for him; i.e., Pubs have no choice but to vote for Trump?
What are the options? Waste our vote? vote for the Dem? not vote at all? Dem wins in every instance, thus making all of us worse off.
Like I said, Trump will create a shitshow over whoever challenges him. Desantis included. He will destroy anything in his path.
 
I realize there are a lot of Republicans who think this.

But when is the last time an R won a critical election that wasn't easily winnable?

Just Trump. I think the opposite of what you think is actually true. ANy R that runs is 100% loss, and/or an R that "wins," is 100% indistinguishable from a loss.
Can't really argue that. GOP is controlled opposition.

With the White House, the GOP has run these guys the last 30 years.

L George Bush
L Bob Dole
W George W. Bush
W George W. Bush re-elected
L John McCain
L Mitt Romney
W Donald Trump won (no thanks to the GOP)
L Donald Trump

Republicans are 3-5 in elections after dominating the 80s. Demographics have changed everything. Social media has made propaganda a 24/7 tool that stays with voters all day, every day in their pockets where as their only reach was the TV and newspapers before.
 
Can't really argue that. GOP is controlled opposition.

With the White House, the GOP has run these guys the last 30 years.

L George Bush
L Bob Dole
W George W. Bush
W George W. Bush re-elected
L John McCain
L Mitt Romney
W Donald Trump won (no thanks to the GOP)
L Donald Trump

Republicans are 3-5 in elections after dominating the 80s. Demographics have changed everything. Social media has made propaganda a 24/7 tool that stays with voters all day, every day in their pockets where as their only reach was the TV and newspapers before.
And good luck with this generation ever voting republican and the current young voters because of being groomed and indoctrinated
 
And good luck with this generation ever voting republican and the current young voters because of being groomed and indoctrinated
Yeah, America is done. All that remains is the skin. It's quite a study of how the collapse occurred. Really in no time, America opted for mass surveillance, big government, gave up total control to globalists, and watched as their politicians sold their country out as they helped usher in population replacement.

You'll have pockets left but the ride is over as a whole. This is globalism. You'll have a one-party rule in the White House forever. We'll be slaves to whatever China/UN/WEF wants. There's no stopping the digital currency thing occurring either.

As long as there's bread and circuses, the masses don't do shit.
 
I realize there are a lot of Republicans who think this.

But when is the last time an R won a critical election that wasn't easily winnable?

Just Trump. I think the opposite of what you think is actually true. ANy R that runs is 100% loss, and/or an R that "wins," is 100% indistinguishable from a loss.


It is interesting to me that people have bought into the narrative that every Trump candidate has been “rebuked.”


Folks, the Establishment hates Trump, therefore they do not support him or his endorsed candidates.

They sit back while elections are “interfered” with to the detriment of Trump-backed candidates.

Then, the talking heads go on Fox News and say “Trump’s fault” in an attempt to shave off some of his support.

And, of course, it’s working.

They want you to believe that you must support an establishment candidate in ‘24 or the Rs have no chance.

If an establishment candidate gets the nomination, s/he will get the support of the establishment, but others will stay home.

It’s a nasty thing that is unfolding and those who fall simply for the “blame Trump” narrative are some of the biggest sheep in the world.
 
Perdue ran for Governor.


He should not have. He should have run for Senate and he would have gotten 50% on election night (probably similar vote totals to Kemp).

What is happening in GA and AZ is bad for America and bad for the long-term viability of the R party.
Thanks for the correction; my bad. I agree with the rest of your post. Election integrity is important, but so is running good candidates.

What are your thoughts on GA’s election laws? For all the caterwauling by the left, it certainly doesn’t appear there was any voter suppression in this midterm cycle. I don’t like last night’s result but at least the votes appeared to be counted quickly and efficiently.

AZ elections are a shitshow and will likely remain so for the foreseeable future.
 
Hike prices at the stores most affected. They already shut down one in Louisville because it was in a shitty neighborhood and theft was rampant. Walmart needs to go back to their roots and stay out of the inner cities. they got their start by plopping their big stores in rural communities that weren't nearly as ripe for theft.

It doesn’t seem to matter any more. The crooks go to all the stores now. They just need to hire armed security and shoot a few of them. Of course, they’d then be sued out of business by the crooks family.
 
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Yeah, America is done. All that remains is the skin. It's quite a study of how the collapse occurred. Really in no time, America opted for mass surveillance, big government, gave up total control to globalists, and watched as their politicians sold their country out as they helped usher in population replacement.

You'll have pockets left but the ride is over as a whole. This is globalism. You'll have a one-party rule in the White House forever. We'll be slaves to whatever China/UN/WEF wants. There's no stopping the digital currency thing occurring either.

As long as there's bread and circuses, the masses don't do shit.


That’s one of the fascinating things about Twitter.

You scroll through a myriad of tweets, from “Warnock defeats Walker” to “Cavs defeat Lakers” to “$65 billion to Ukraine” to “$340 million for Aaron Judge”.

It all becomes indistinguishable over time.

People are becoming immune to all of it.
 
In a few years Trump will be out of the picture. Won’t the Dems just insert Desantis, or whoever, in where Trumps name was in their talking points. Won’t matter if true or not, just Make it all up, go with that.
Kind of like Pelosi or any other GOP target for Republicans. The issue with Trump is that he provides all the ammunition to attack him. Taking documents from the White House was stupid just as having dinner meetings with nefarious people and claiming you didn’t know who they were. Nobody has dinner with someone under Secret Service protection without knowing who it is. Trump lies, makes excuses and never accepts responsibility. People see that.
 
It is interesting to me that people have bought into the narrative that every Trump candidate has been “rebuked.”


Folks, the Establishment hates Trump, therefore they do not support him or his endorsed candidates.

They sit back while elections are “interfered” with to the detriment of Trump-backed candidates.

Then, the talking heads go on Fox News and say “Trump’s fault” in an attempt to shave off some of his support.

And, of course, it’s working.

They want you to believe that you must support an establishment candidate in ‘24 or the Rs have no chance.

If an establishment candidate gets the nomination, s/he will get the support of the establishment, but others will stay home.

It’s a nasty thing that is unfolding and those who fall simply for the “blame Trump” narrative are some of the biggest sheep in the world.

There is a lot of wisdom to this post.
 
Thanks for the correction; my bad. I agree with the rest of your post. Election integrity is important, but so is running good candidates.

What are your thoughts on GA’s election laws? For all the caterwauling by the left, it certainly doesn’t appear there was any voter suppression in this midterm cycle. I don’t like last night’s result but at least the votes appeared to be counted quickly and efficiently.

AZ elections are a shitshow and will likely remain so for the foreseeable future.

GA appears to have taken some solid steps. However, the RNC did not get fully behind the early voting, which hurt Walker.

Kemp had a machine in place, and he almost carried Walker to victory, but his impact was, of course, lessened a month later.

One issue with Georgia is Libertarian candidates appear to flock there because of the 50% + 1 requirement, allowing them to screw up federal elections in the state.

If you take out that requirement, you likely have fewer Libertarians running in GA and perhaps you avoid the situation you had with Walker last night and Perdue in 2020.
 
It is interesting to me that people have bought into the narrative that every Trump candidate has been “rebuked.”


Folks, the Establishment hates Trump, therefore they do not support him or his endorsed candidates.

They sit back while elections are “interfered” with to the detriment of Trump-backed candidates.

Then, the talking heads go on Fox News and say “Trump’s fault” in an attempt to shave off some of his support.

And, of course, it’s working.

They want you to believe that you must support an establishment candidate in ‘24 or the Rs have no chance.

If an establishment candidate gets the nomination, s/he will get the support of the establishment, but others will stay home.

It’s a nasty thing that is unfolding and those who fall simply for the “blame Trump” narrative are some of the biggest sheep in the world.
I just want to go on record to say that I don't think Trump or any Republican nominee will win 2024 regardless or 2028.

I don't believe Dems are showing up to the polls in these numbers. I think they simply acquire a shit ton of fraudulent votes in key counties of swing states. We keep playing along while Dems have months to cook up BS in Detroit, Milwaukee, Phoenix, Atlanta, and Philly. Nothing is done to stop this main source which will result in Dems winning forever.
 
And good luck with this generation ever voting republican and the current young voters because of being groomed and indoctrinated
Speaking of indoctrination…..

 
And good luck with this generation ever voting republican and the current young voters because of being groomed and indoctrinated
This is NOT how you teach kids. teach kids to be kind to everyone, don't bring them down and villify them. Shit like this causes more to divide us than just being a kind person and treating people how they deserve to be treated. This kid doesn't understand what she's doing right there. She is being coaxed by a virtue signaling adult to do this nonsense.
 
Not actually hypocrites if/when you understand them better; can see it in their posts (esp Dion's).

It's not they care about the "oppressed," it's that they're not the ones doing the oppressing according to their worldview of what society should be.
Someone’s always done the oppressing throughout human history. So until we change that dynamic everyone wants to be the guy on top. It’s pretty much y’all’s entire conservative guiding principle. You know where ‘left’ and ‘right’ initially came from correct? Those sitting on the left of King Louie XVI during the French Revolution wanted to remove him and spread power amongst the people. Those sitting on his right wanted to keep that power concentrated in him and themselves. You are a Loyalist through and through. Just born in the 20th century rather than the 18th.
 
I just want to go on record to say that I don't think Trump or any Republican nominee will win 2024 regardless or 2028.

I don't believe Dems are showing up to the polls in these numbers. I think they simply acquire a shit ton of fraudulent votes in key counties of swing states. We keep playing along while Dems have months to cook up BS in Detroit, Milwaukee, Phoenix, Atlanta, and Philly. Nothing is done to stop this main source which will result in Dems winning forever.


I was discussing this @ 2:00 AM on election night.

Given a myriad of factors, AZ, MI, PA and probably WI, appear to be impossibilities for the Rs in ‘24.

The right candidate can still win Georgia and and Youngkin could possibly win Virginia.

That doesn’t cut it.
 
That’s one of the fascinating things about Twitter.

You scroll through a myriad of tweets, from “Warnock defeats Walker” to “Cavs defeat Lakers” to “$65 billion to Ukraine” to “$340 million for Aaron Judge”.

It all becomes indistinguishable over time.

People are becoming immune to all of it.
Well, when I was scrolling through some headlines that popped up on my phone this morning, It said "Warnock defeats scandal prone Herschel Walker in GA Senate race" It's the constant barrage of inserting digs like "scandal prone" or whatever other narrative the lefty media wants to push that does a lot of it. As if Warnock wasn't without his own scandals, but you'd never know it.
 
I was discussing this @ 2:00 AM on election night.

Given a myriad of factors, AZ, MI, PA and probably WI, appear to be impossibilities for the Rs in ‘24.

The right candidate can still win Georgia and and Youngkin could possibly win Virginia.

That doesn’t cut it.

Youngkin eeked out a win in a non federal, off year state race with the opposing party in power. No chance in a Presidential race in VA.

The path to the WH for the GOP is narrow in the new VBM era - win the 2020 Trump states and pull it out in GA, AZ, and WI. PA and MI are gone.

That’s the only path.
 
Well, when I was scrolling through some headlines that popped up on my phone this morning, It said "Warnock defeats scandal prone Herschel Walker in GA Senate race" It's the constant barrage of inserting digs like "scandal prone" or whatever other narrative the lefty media wants to push that does a lot of it. As if Warnock wasn't without his own scandals, but you'd never know it.
The media, most of it anyway, are in the tank for the dims. No conservative candidate will get fair treatment from the press. If they cant vilify them, they will ignore them.
 
I realize there are a lot of Republicans who think this.

But when is the last time an R won a critical election that wasn't easily winnable?

Just Trump. I think the opposite of what you think is actually true. ANy R that runs is 100% loss, and/or an R that "wins," is 100% indistinguishable from a loss.
Youngkin.
 
Head in the sand. Told you to do a quick Twitter search but you just dont want to know, do you?

You somehow know every little detail about Trump, MAGA, etc but don’t know anything about this?

You have your comfy liberal world and nothing is going to change that, not even the truth.

That is truly living in an imaginary world.
Y’all do the exact same with the Jan 6th coup details. I’ve linked the Eastman memos probably more than ten times but most here are still willfully ignorant of the facts. The Oath Keepers were just convicted of seditious conspiracy to overthrow our entire country and Constitution and it was barely discussed. On a political forum. Intentional bubbles, confirmation bias, and willful ignorance are a huge problem in people at large, not any specific partisan faction.
 
Only reason Biden is President is because the alternative was Trump. The Trump humpers are as much to blame for Biden as the Dems with their idiotic cult of personality.
You completely underestimate Trump's ability to know how to continually flirt with white supremacists and cause chaos while claiming innocence.
"There were good people on both sides"... I wasn't talking about the dudes carrying torches and yelling Jews will not replace us.
"I was just Tweeting about support for me in the Villages" Oopsie...I didnt see the guy yelling white power in my video.
"Pence is a traitor... I'm the real President... The election was stolen.... You have to fight for our country.... Gonna have Trial by Combat...democrats are evil....the election was rigged". Now go peacefully down to the Capitol all you enraged militia people who think your country has been stolen from you.
"Proud Boys...stand back and stand by"
Can't believe they showed up at the Capitol with bear spray and flack jackets then stormed the Capitol... What a shocker.
"I had dinner with Nick Fuentes... I don't even know who he is or what he stands for"..... Ex Presidents have people walk in off the street all the time past secret service and it's just a surprise who shows up to dinner. 🤡
"The election was stolen... Just send me some money to help with my legal fees and I will be President again real soon"
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Trump knows exactly what he is doing. Wake up.
Agent Orange has taken greed to a whole new level. Rubes have yet to figure out it's ultimately all a grift.
 
Y’all do the exact same with the Jan 6th coup details. I’ve linked the Eastman memos probably more than ten times but most here are still willfully ignorant of the facts. The Oath Keepers were just convicted of seditious conspiracy to overthrow our entire country and Constitution and it was barely discussed. On a political forum. Intentional bubbles, confirmation bias, and willful ignorance are a huge problem in people at large, not any specific partisan faction.
The only insurrection was #N3. Remember the day America was destroyed
 
The problem right now is the civil war going on within the Republican party. A guy like Oz lost by a lot bigger margin than the MAGA Senate candidates to the weakest candidate imaginable and he's super smart, moderate, not a fire breather, etc. But MAGA won't vote for someone like him. On the flip, suburban Karen's won't vote for a Walker or a Masters. It's a problem. I just don't see a solution until the RINOS are all purged.

Masters, Walker, and Laxalt all would've won had the money been even. But it wasn't. Thanks Mitch.
 
Kind of like Pelosi or any other GOP target for Republicans. The issue with Trump is that he provides all the ammunition to attack him. Taking documents from the White House was stupid just as having dinner meetings with nefarious people and claiming you didn’t know who they were. Nobody has dinner with someone under Secret Service protection without knowing who it is. Trump lies, makes excuses and never accepts responsibility. People see that.
I guess you still think Trump was hiding the nuclear codes in Melania's underwear drawer. You did hear the news that the raid was nothing more than a political stunts and nothing of substance was found. How about you address Biden's constant lies and corruption exposed by his derelict son's stupidity. Show us when Biden has accepted responsibility for any of the mess he's caused. Until you can do that shaddup about Trump.
 
GA appears to have taken some solid steps. However, the RNC did not get fully behind the early voting, which hurt Walker.

Kemp had a machine in place, and he almost carried Walker to victory, but his impact was, of course, lessened a month later.

One issue with Georgia is Libertarian candidates appear to flock there because of the 50% + 1 requirement, allowing them to screw up federal elections in the state.

If you take out that requirement, you likely have fewer Libertarians running in GA and perhaps you avoid the situation you had with Walker last night and Perdue in 2020.
Warnock won the initial round before the runoff as well. So not having a runoff would’ve just meant he won on election night instead of now. Him winning has nothing to do with their 50%+1 system.
 
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