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I realize there are a lot of Republicans who think this.

But when is the last time an R won a critical election that wasn't easily winnable?

Just Trump. I think the opposite of what you think is actually true. ANy R that runs is 100% loss, and/or an R that "wins," is 100% indistinguishable from a loss.
Youngkin.
 
Head in the sand. Told you to do a quick Twitter search but you just dont want to know, do you?

You somehow know every little detail about Trump, MAGA, etc but don’t know anything about this?

You have your comfy liberal world and nothing is going to change that, not even the truth.

That is truly living in an imaginary world.
Y’all do the exact same with the Jan 6th coup details. I’ve linked the Eastman memos probably more than ten times but most here are still willfully ignorant of the facts. The Oath Keepers were just convicted of seditious conspiracy to overthrow our entire country and Constitution and it was barely discussed. On a political forum. Intentional bubbles, confirmation bias, and willful ignorance are a huge problem in people at large, not any specific partisan faction.
 
Only reason Biden is President is because the alternative was Trump. The Trump humpers are as much to blame for Biden as the Dems with their idiotic cult of personality.
You completely underestimate Trump's ability to know how to continually flirt with white supremacists and cause chaos while claiming innocence.
"There were good people on both sides"... I wasn't talking about the dudes carrying torches and yelling Jews will not replace us.
"I was just Tweeting about support for me in the Villages" Oopsie...I didnt see the guy yelling white power in my video.
"Pence is a traitor... I'm the real President... The election was stolen.... You have to fight for our country.... Gonna have Trial by Combat...democrats are evil....the election was rigged". Now go peacefully down to the Capitol all you enraged militia people who think your country has been stolen from you.
"Proud Boys...stand back and stand by"
Can't believe they showed up at the Capitol with bear spray and flack jackets then stormed the Capitol... What a shocker.
"I had dinner with Nick Fuentes... I don't even know who he is or what he stands for"..... Ex Presidents have people walk in off the street all the time past secret service and it's just a surprise who shows up to dinner. 🤡
"The election was stolen... Just send me some money to help with my legal fees and I will be President again real soon"
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Trump knows exactly what he is doing. Wake up.
Agent Orange has taken greed to a whole new level. Rubes have yet to figure out it's ultimately all a grift.
 
Y’all do the exact same with the Jan 6th coup details. I’ve linked the Eastman memos probably more than ten times but most here are still willfully ignorant of the facts. The Oath Keepers were just convicted of seditious conspiracy to overthrow our entire country and Constitution and it was barely discussed. On a political forum. Intentional bubbles, confirmation bias, and willful ignorance are a huge problem in people at large, not any specific partisan faction.
The only insurrection was #N3. Remember the day America was destroyed
 
The problem right now is the civil war going on within the Republican party. A guy like Oz lost by a lot bigger margin than the MAGA Senate candidates to the weakest candidate imaginable and he's super smart, moderate, not a fire breather, etc. But MAGA won't vote for someone like him. On the flip, suburban Karen's won't vote for a Walker or a Masters. It's a problem. I just don't see a solution until the RINOS are all purged.

Masters, Walker, and Laxalt all would've won had the money been even. But it wasn't. Thanks Mitch.
 
Kind of like Pelosi or any other GOP target for Republicans. The issue with Trump is that he provides all the ammunition to attack him. Taking documents from the White House was stupid just as having dinner meetings with nefarious people and claiming you didn’t know who they were. Nobody has dinner with someone under Secret Service protection without knowing who it is. Trump lies, makes excuses and never accepts responsibility. People see that.
I guess you still think Trump was hiding the nuclear codes in Melania's underwear drawer. You did hear the news that the raid was nothing more than a political stunts and nothing of substance was found. How about you address Biden's constant lies and corruption exposed by his derelict son's stupidity. Show us when Biden has accepted responsibility for any of the mess he's caused. Until you can do that shaddup about Trump.
 
GA appears to have taken some solid steps. However, the RNC did not get fully behind the early voting, which hurt Walker.

Kemp had a machine in place, and he almost carried Walker to victory, but his impact was, of course, lessened a month later.

One issue with Georgia is Libertarian candidates appear to flock there because of the 50% + 1 requirement, allowing them to screw up federal elections in the state.

If you take out that requirement, you likely have fewer Libertarians running in GA and perhaps you avoid the situation you had with Walker last night and Perdue in 2020.
Warnock won the initial round before the runoff as well. So not having a runoff would’ve just meant he won on election night instead of now. Him winning has nothing to do with their 50%+1 system.
 
It is interesting to me that people have bought into the narrative that every Trump candidate has been “rebuked.”


Folks, the Establishment hates Trump, therefore they do not support him or his endorsed candidates.

They sit back while elections are “interfered” with to the detriment of Trump-backed candidates.

Then, the talking heads go on Fox News and say “Trump’s fault” in an attempt to shave off some of his support.

And, of course, it’s working.

They want you to believe that you must support an establishment candidate in ‘24 or the Rs have no chance.

If an establishment candidate gets the nomination, s/he will get the support of the establishment, but others will stay home.

It’s a nasty thing that is unfolding and those who fall simply for the “blame Trump” narrative are some of the biggest sheep in the world.
100% this. This blaming Trump shit is stupid.
 
Y’all do the exact same with the Jan 6th coup details. I’ve linked the Eastman memos probably more than ten times but most here are still willfully ignorant of the facts. The Oath Keepers were just convicted of seditious conspiracy to overthrow our entire country and Constitution and it was barely discussed. On a political forum. Intentional bubbles, confirmation bias, and willful ignorance are a huge problem in people at large, not any specific partisan faction.

Imagine trying to overthrow a gov with a million people in your ranks and not one of them actually armed. No plan. No organization. Has that ever been done? In history? Ever?

Imagine an insurrection where the insurgents (one being a grandma) have the doors opened for them and walk single file between the velvet ropes taking pictures of the building.

Imagine politicians having ready made and rehearsed speeches prepared for just such an event to give only moments after Trump told people to go home.

Sounds like a real shitty “insurrection” to me and a lot more like political theatre.
 
What are the options? Waste our vote? vote for the Dem? not vote at all? Dem wins in every instance, thus making all of us worse off.
Like I said, Trump will create a shitshow over whoever challenges him. Desantis included. He will destroy anything in his path.
Trump ain't winning. Net, I'd rather Pubs be shown Trump's shitshow against other Pubs.
 
Twitter is garbage as a legit news source.....But even Musk is turning on your Orange Idol.

My idol? I’ve got my issues with Trump that I’ve been vocal about on here. I don’t blindly defend him but I don’t fall for the bs the media runs with about him either. If the news says he’s a racist, I want to know why. What did he do? What did he say? What was the context? I don’t just accept things as fact because the media doctored a video.

Twitter isn’t the news “source”. Trust me, if you’d seen those photos you’d know who Pedo Pete is and why they used every resource at their disposal to keep that laptop from hell buried.
 
Well, when I was scrolling through some headlines that popped up on my phone this morning, It said "Warnock defeats scandal prone Herschel Walker in GA Senate race" It's the constant barrage of inserting digs like "scandal prone" or whatever other narrative the lefty media wants to push that does a lot of it. As if Warnock wasn't without his own scandals, but you'd never know it.
I had the same thought when I saw the headline. 100%
 
We are in a manual labor shortage. immigrants are the number 1 provider of cheap manual labor. fix the completely broken path to full citizenship through jobs. We get labor, we get tax revenue, we get republicans to shutup about the border.
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Interesting take so please answer this (I’ll be surprised if you respond at all though). Compare and contrast the 4 years under trump vs the 2 under Biden and point out in bullet points ( just a few is fine) how Americans and America in general are better off now than then. How is trump ruining the country today? He has zero power in politics/policy. Most of his policies that were helping the vast majority of Americans have been reversed. I’ll hang up and listen!!!
Things Trump did to Make America Suck Again.....
1. Emboldened and elevated the status of Nazis, white supremacists and anti government militia groups by calling them "good people", tweeting "White Power" videos and telling the Proud Boys to "stand back and stand by."
Those Proud Boyz assholes are getting sent to jail right now under Biden.


2. Created an angry atmosphere in America with his Tweets/speeches in which the only option people felt their voices could be heard was thru rioting in the streets (BLM riots) or at the Capitol (Jan. 6 riots).
No BLM riots or Capitol insurrections under Biden.
3. Trashed our traditional partnerships with our allies in Europe for a new alliance with dictators in Russia and North Korea....Even saluted a North Korean general.



Currently making Russia look like a second rate power with our NATO alliance and expanded NATO membership under Biden.
Rocket Boy is firing blanks again because he knows Biden doesn't wanna play pattycake with a lunatic.


4. Political unrest in China, Iran and Russia because the US is standing strong for democracy again. It matters.

5. Trump left office with the WORST economic record since Herbert Hoover. That is a fact. You can blame Covid but every President is judged by results not circumstances.
If you give Trump a pass on the economy due to Covid....You have to give Biden a pass because of the Russian oil embargo and War in Ukraine. Either they both get a pass or neither does.


6. GDP growth under Biden is high and unemployment is low.
Best economic growth since Clinton....

https://www.fa-mag.com/news/biden-s-economy-has-the-best-growth-record-since-clinton-69488.html
 
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It is interesting to me that people have bought into the narrative that every Trump candidate has been “rebuked.”


Folks, the Establishment hates Trump, therefore they do not support him or his endorsed candidates.

They sit back while elections are “interfered” with to the detriment of Trump-backed candidates.

Then, the talking heads go on Fox News and say “Trump’s fault” in an attempt to shave off some of his support.

And, of course, it’s working.

They want you to believe that you must support an establishment candidate in ‘24 or the Rs have no chance.

If an establishment candidate gets the nomination, s/he will get the support of the establishment, but others will stay home.

It’s a nasty thing that is unfolding and those who fall simply for the “blame Trump” narrative are some of the biggest sheep in the world.
You need to tell me with specifics how the Oz/Walker/Laxalt/Masters elections were interfered with & how it's the establishment's faul & not the candidates.

You ignore Trump's toxicity.

By this crowd, anyone not named Trump is the establishment candidate the people who'd vote for such are sheep. And yes, I expect many Trump supporters will stay home if their Great Leader isn't the nominee. I.e., they're Trumpsters only.
 
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Imagine trying to overthrow a gov with a million people in your ranks and not one of them actually armed. No plan. No organization.

Imagine an insurrection where the insurgents (one being a grandma) have the doors opened for them and walk single file between the velvet ropes taking pictures of the building.

Imagine politicians having ready made and rehearsed speeches prepared for just such an event to give only moments after Trump told people to go home.

Sounds like a real shitty “insurrection” to me and a lot more like political theatre.
You’re doing exactly as accused right here. I wasn’t talking about Jacob Chansley running through the Capitol in horns. I specifically referred to the Eastman memos and their outlined coup methods they then tried to implement. They were trying to get Pence to gavel Trump re-elected regardless of the votes, not occupy the Capitol in an armed revolt. You’re intentionally obfuscating, just as accused.
 
Things Trump did to Make America Suck Again.....
1. Emboldened and elevated the status of Nazis, white supremacists and anti government militia groups by calling them "good people", tweeting "White Power" videos and telling the Proud Boys to "stand back and stand by."
Those Proud Boyz assholes are getting sent to jail right now under Biden.


2. Created an angry atmosphere in America with his Tweets/speeches in which the only option people felt their voices could be heard was thru rioting in the streets (BLM riots) or at the Capitol (Jan. 6 riots).
No BLM riots or Capitol insurrections under Biden.
3. Trashed our traditional partnerships with our allies in Europe for a new alliance with dictators in Russia and North Korea....Even saluted a North Korean general.



Currently making Russia look like a second rate power with our NATO alliance and expanded NATO membership under Biden.
Rocket Boy is firing blanks again because he knows Biden doesn't wanna play pattycake with a lunatic.


4. Political unrest in China, Iran and Russia because the US is standing strong for democracy again. It matters.

5. Trump left office with the WORST economic record since Herbert Hoover. That is a fact. You can blame Covid but every President is judged by results not circumstances.
If you give Trump a pass on the economy due to Covid....You have to give Biden a pass because of the Russian oil embargo and War in Ukraine. Either they both get a pass or neither does.


6. GDP growth under Biden is high and unemployment is low.
Best economic growth since Clinton....

https://www.fa-mag.com/news/biden-s-economy-has-the-best-growth-record-since-clinton-69488.html

Haha a bunch to type out there for none of it being true or was it copy and pasted the The Atlantic?
 
The problem right now is the civil war going on within the Republican party. A guy like Oz lost by a lot bigger margin than the MAGA Senate candidates to the weakest candidate imaginable and he's super smart, moderate, not a fire breather, etc. But MAGA won't vote for someone like him. On the flip, suburban Karen's won't vote for a Walker or a Masters. It's a problem. I just don't see a solution until the RINOS are all purged.

Masters, Walker, and Laxalt all would've won had the money been even. But it wasn't. Thanks Mitch.
Of course it's Mitch's fault, not the candidates, not Trump's, not the head of Republican Campaign Committee Rick Scott who went off on vacation to Europe during the campaign season. MM, CatsIllustrated's Trumpsters' #1 Whipping Boy. And Masters had no chance even with twice Kelly's money.

Now carry on.
 
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Things Trump did to Make America Suck Again.....
1. Emboldened and elevated the status of Nazis, white supremacists and anti government militia groups by calling them "good people", tweeting "White Power" videos and telling the Proud Boys to "stand back and stand by."
Those Proud Boyz assholes are getting sent to jail right now under Biden.


2. Created an angry atmosphere in America with his Tweets/speeches in which the only option people felt their voices could be heard was thru rioting in the streets (BLM riots) or at the Capitol (Jan. 6 riots).
No BLM riots or Capitol insurrections under Biden.
3. Trashed our traditional partnerships with our allies in Europe for a new alliance with dictators in Russia and North Korea....Even saluted a North Korean general.



Currently making Russia look like a second rate power with our NATO alliance and expanded NATO membership under Biden.
Rocket Boy is firing blanks again because he knows Biden doesn't wanna play pattycake with a lunatic.


4. Political unrest in China, Iran and Russia because the US is standing strong for democracy again. It matters.

5. Trump left office with the WORST economic record since Herbert Hoover. That is a fact. You can blame Covid but every President is judged by results not circumstances.
If you give Trump a pass on the economy due to Covid....You have to give Biden a pass because of the Russian oil embargo and War in Ukraine. Either they both get a pass or neither does.


6. GDP growth under Biden is high and unemployment is low.
Best economic growth since Clinton....

https://www.fa-mag.com/news/biden-s-economy-has-the-best-growth-record-since-clinton-69488.html
“We was so angry we had to riot!” Lol.

This man teaches your kids.
 
I just want to go on record to say that I don't think Trump or any Republican nominee will win 2024 regardless or 2028.

I don't believe Dems are showing up to the polls in these numbers. I think they simply acquire a shit ton of fraudulent votes in key counties of swing states. We keep playing along while Dems have months to cook up BS in Detroit, Milwaukee, Phoenix, Atlanta, and Philly. Nothing is done to stop this main source which will result in Dems winning forever.
I believe you don't believe it.
 
Things Trump did to Make America Suck Again.....
1. Emboldened and elevated the status of Nazis, white supremacists and anti government militia groups by calling them "good people", tweeting "White Power" videos and telling the Proud Boys to "stand back and stand by."
Those Proud Boyz assholes are getting sent to jail right now under Biden.


2. Created an angry atmosphere in America with his Tweets/speeches in which the only option people felt their voices could be heard was thru rioting in the streets (BLM riots) or at the Capitol (Jan. 6 riots).
No BLM riots or Capitol insurrections under Biden.
3. Trashed our traditional partnerships with our allies in Europe for a new alliance with dictators in Russia and North Korea....Even saluted a North Korean general.



Currently making Russia look like a second rate power with our NATO alliance and expanded NATO membership under Biden.
Rocket Boy is firing blanks again because he knows Biden doesn't wanna play pattycake with a lunatic.


4. Political unrest in China, Iran and Russia because the US is standing strong for democracy again. It matters.

5. Trump left office with the WORST economic record since Herbert Hoover. That is a fact. You can blame Covid but every President is judged by results not circumstances.
If you give Trump a pass on the economy due to Covid....You have to give Biden a pass because of the Russian oil embargo and War in Ukraine. Either they both get a pass or neither does.


6. GDP growth under Biden is high and unemployment is low.
Best economic growth since Clinton....

https://www.fa-mag.com/news/biden-s-economy-has-the-best-growth-record-since-clinton-69488.html
I know you didn't list Afghanistan because moderates want things to go well and it was a shitshow but withdrawing was the right thing to do. We were forced into that terrible position because we never should've been there in the first place but the fact is we were and we had to get out. I don't love Biden but he deserves credit for doing it.
 
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You’re doing exactly as accused right here. I wasn’t talking about Jacob Chansley running through the Capitol in horns. I specifically referred to the Eastman memos and their outlined coup methods they then tried to implement. They were trying to get Pence to gavel Trump re-elected regardless of the votes, not occupy the Capitol in an armed revolt. You’re intentionally obfuscating, just as accused.
The problem that has been explained to you these last two years is that this standard of “insurrection” is so loose that it can apply to many activities.
 
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You’re doing exactly as accused right here. I wasn’t talking about Jacob Chansley running through the Capitol in horns. I specifically referred to the Eastman memos and their outlined coup methods they then tried to implement. They were trying to get Pence to gavel Trump re-elected regardless of the votes, not occupy the Capitol in an armed revolt. You’re intentionally obfuscating, just as accused.

Again, more political theatre. The majority of the country knows when the real coup took place.

The majority of people are not stupid.

This is why you had millions of people down there protesting. It’s why you have people questioning the midterms now. People want to be able to trust their elections and not just because they were told to shut up and do so.

If you don’t have fair elections, the people have no power. If you have even questionable elections, the people have no power.

This environment was created by Dems. Changing voting laws, ignoring voting laws, mail in ballot flooding bs, timely water pipes bursting, placing cardboard in windows, bellwethers and statistical anomalies that have never been seen before in this country, a record amount of votes for a man w dementia that couldn’t get 12 people at a rally. Same as Fetterman and the Dead man. Most people just aren’t going to believe it.

You can’t blame people for believing or at least questioning things that are right in front of their face.

There’s a lot of smoke and this isn’t meant to be a defense of Trump. The political system stinks to high heaven.
 
My idol? I’ve got my issues with Trump that I’ve been vocal about on here. I don’t blindly defend him but I don’t fall for the bs the media runs with about him either. If the news says he’s a racist, I want to know why. What did he do? What did he say? What was the context? I don’t just accept things as fact because the media doctored a video.

Twitter isn’t the news “source”. Trust me, if you’d seen those photos you’d know who Pedo Pete is and why they used every resource at their disposal to keep that laptop from hell buried.
What did he do that makes people think he is a racist?? Seriously??







Lots of good people on both sides my ass.
 
The problem that has been explained to you these last two years is that this standard of “insurrection” is so loose that it can apply to many activities.
Getting your VP to unilaterally set aside Electoral College votes during the Jan 6th reading and gavel you re-elected when you weren’t is one singular event on one singular day that only even happens once every FOUR YEARS. It is not vague. It is not loose. This was a coordinated attempt to interfere with the two centuries long peaceful transfer of power and install an unelected dictator. It was a concrete plan to overthrow our Constitution which they ACTED UPON. Not vague, indeterminate threats.
 
I know you didn't list Afghanistan because moderates want things to go well and it was a shitshow but withdrawing was the right thing to do. We were forced into that terrible position because we never should've been there in the first place but the fact is we were and we had to get out. I don't love Biden but he deserves credit for doing it.
I actually was going to list that as a negative against him...got a phone call and forgot. It wasn't so much that we left...but how.
 
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It is interesting to me that people have bought into the narrative that every Trump candidate has been “rebuked.”


Folks, the Establishment hates Trump, therefore they do not support him or his endorsed candidates.

They sit back while elections are “interfered” with to the detriment of Trump-backed candidates.

Then, the talking heads go on Fox News and say “Trump’s fault” in an attempt to shave off some of his support.

And, of course, it’s working.

They want you to believe that you must support an establishment candidate in ‘24 or the Rs have no chance.

If an establishment candidate gets the nomination, s/he will get the support of the establishment, but others will stay home.

It’s a nasty thing that is unfolding and those who fall simply for the “blame Trump” narrative are some of the biggest sheep in the world.

Did those candidates win or lose? They lost. One lost to a legit brain damaged near invalid. The establishment hates trump, but alot of undecided voters share the sentiment

In a few years Trump will be out of the picture. Won’t the Dems just insert Desantis, or whoever, in where Trumps name was in their talking points. Won’t matter if true or not, just Make it all up, go with that.

They will do that anyway. Difference in the two is one of them will continuously hang himself with unnecessary spats and nonsense and the other will just plow through.

During and since covid, the msm threw just as much at desantis as trump. Maybe more. Desantis beats them at every turn. Trump just trumps
 
What did he do that makes people think he is a racist?? Seriously??







Lots of good people on both sides my ass.

Trump said he didn’t know that was in the video and when told he deleted it. I’m willing to take that at face value before I label him a racist when historically his actions haven’t proven that.

Now do Biden actually on video being blatantly racist with his own words.
 
Again, more political theatre. The majority of the country knows when the real coup took place.

The majority of people are not stupid.

This is why you had millions of people down there protesting. It’s why you have people questioning the midterms now. People want to be able to trust their elections and not just because they were told to shut up and do so.

If you don’t have fair elections, the people have no power. If you have even questionable elections, the people have no power.

This environment was created by Dems. Changing voting laws, ignoring voting laws, mail in ballot flooding bs, timely water pipes bursting, placing cardboard in windows, bellwethers and statistical anomalies that have never been seen before in this country, a record amount of votes for a man w dementia that couldn’t get 12 people at a rally. Same as Fetterman and the Dead man. Most people just aren’t going to believe it.

You can’t blame people for believing or at least questioning things that are right in front of their face.

There’s a lot of smoke and this isn’t meant to be a defense of Trump. The political system stinks to high heaven.
Show any statistics backing up your claims that a “majority of the country knows when the real coup took place.” A majority of the country thinks our elections are free and fair. There are multiple polls saying as much. You desperately want to be in the majority but you aren't. This isn't a remark on the substance of your claims, that's for you to determine. But you should at least be realistic about the attitudes and thoughts of the country at large if you want an accurate picture of the American landscape. Lying to yourself helps no one, least of all you.
 
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Trump said he didn’t know that was in the video and when told he deleted it. I’m willing to take that at face value before I label him a racist when historically his actions haven’t proven that.

Now do Biden actually on video being blatantly racist with his own words.
He always has a lame excuse....Always.

Yeah...White Supremacists always get invited into Mara Lago for dinner by accident. Happens to all of us.
https://news.yahoo.com/trump-says-had-never-heard-034036898.html
 
Show any statistics backing up your claims that a “majority of the country knows when the real coup took place.” A majority of the country thinks our elections are free and fair. There are multiple polls saying as much. You desperately want to be in the majority but you aren't. This isn't a remark on the substance of your claims, that's for you to determine. But you should at least be realistic about the attitudes and thoughts of the country at large if you want an accurate picture of the American landscape. Lying to yourself helps no one, least of all you.

92 percent of Dems and 32 percent of Reps think it was free and fair according to your article.

Wonder why there’s such a difference?

Ever see a sports team get hosed? Which side thinks it was fair and which side doesn’t?
 
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I realize there are a lot of Republicans who think this.

But when is the last time an R won a critical election that wasn't easily winnable?

Just Trump. I think the opposite of what you think is actually true. ANy R that runs is 100% loss, and/or an R that "wins," is 100% indistinguishable from a loss.

They turned several house seats some way outperforming expectations.

Running trump might make people feel good because he'll say whatever, but it will result in a loss and down ballot losses. It's just a fact
 
If trump runs, and is the nominee, they will keep Biden running. Might switch vp but otherwise, why not keep the puppet who will beat trump as is?
Because foreign governments are becoming aware that Biden isn't running the government and they are distrusting us. I mean, if they want to blow up nato and all our foreign trade and military deals then sure... run Biden again.
 
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