I am not defending them. I'm just trying to be realistic. I turned down many police jobs because it wasn't worth it to me. I could make more money with less risk doing other things. Who is going to want the job? You can only pick from the candidates you have. What will it take to get the candidates we want?Hell, what are the pay and incentives those parents could give them just to get out of the way? CHILDREN were getting slaughtered and they stood outside in tactical gear...'acting' like they were cops...'playing' cop...not being a f-cking cop.
F-ck every last one of them. I know they won't get it, but any cop that handcuffed or tasered a parent...I would give them a life sentence. They peppered sprayed a parent trying to save his child.
It's one thing if you won't do your job, it's another thing if you are preventing others from stopping carnage.
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race is just a societal construct though -
or so some say
if that’s true - then what does it really matter what words are used to describe ppl?
(it’s a rhetorical question - i don’t believe our anthropological differences are purely “social constructs”....technically I’m just messing with you here ...)
This and it won't be just money. Ya better money will get better candidates but noone is rushing towards bullets solely for money of that caliber.
Unfortunately you need the half crazy trigger happy cops that occasionally beat or shoot a scumbag. They're the ones also running into the fight.
It's an impossible balance but there is definitely a need for those people imo
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You can't make this shit up.
Arming up schools and getting competent warriors to defend them is not practical, IMO. It’s hard enough hiring enough local police. It’s a mess here in KY, I can’t imagine what’s it’s like elsewhere. Near a border town, for example.
What is practical, is identifying threats and responding accordingly.
This TX situation seems similar to Parkland, maybe not as severe. The Parkland kid was bad news, and was banned from school grounds. If you have a case like that in your school, you should have heightened security and procedures in place to make sure that threat does not come to your school. They didn’t. Of course local law enforcement knew that killer well, had been called to his house before, and they also didn’t do much of anything. In a broader sense, that’s how our “catch and release” law system works these days.
The TX kid was trouble, he threatened students, and there should have been a response/plan for him. Of course, there should have been a response when he stepped on school grounds and started firing. There wasn’t.
You can talk about fairy tale stuff like banning guns, but there are simple things our govt needs to do to protect and serve citizens of this country. They aren’t held accountable and they are letting us down. In more than a few ways. For starters, how do these crazies keep passing background checks. What even is a background check? Do they work? What does our FBI “do”. Do they work? I’m not really sure.
What is practical, is identifying threats and responding accordingly.
This TX situation seems similar to Parkland, maybe not as severe. The Parkland kid was bad news, and was banned from school grounds. If you have a case like that in your school, you should have heightened security and procedures in place to make sure that threat does not come to your school. They didn’t. Of course local law enforcement knew that killer well, had been called to his house before, and they also didn’t do much of anything. In a broader sense, that’s how our “catch and release” law system works these days.
The TX kid was trouble, he threatened students, and there should have been a response/plan for him. Of course, there should have been a response when he stepped on school grounds and started firing. There wasn’t.
You can talk about fairy tale stuff like banning guns, but there are simple things our govt needs to do to protect and serve citizens of this country. They aren’t held accountable and they are letting us down. In more than a few ways. For starters, how do these crazies keep passing background checks. What even is a background check? Do they work? What does our FBI “do”. Do they work? I’m not really sure.
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Lol nothing he says is true. He's grifted his entire life.
This. People should talk to teachers in some of these places. It's incredible the ways they bend over backwards to avoid any discipline whatsoever because years ago it was viewed as having disproportionate outcomes.
If a kid tells his teacher he will shoot up the school, they can't just act on it. They have to do an assessment interview with the kid to see if they think he was serious or it was just an outburst. If the latter, nothing happens and things go on as normal. Any kid on an IEP is untouchable short of actual physical attack on someone else; and even then there is barely any consequence. Legal action is never taken because they don't want the kid to have any record.
It's really mind-blowing
Thought you were the one that suggested people were waiting for Trump to tell them how to vote.
Now you are implying that Trump only, or mostly, picked the favorites.
Which way is your argument? Sounds like you want both.
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Good, let them go out of business. Government should not be running schools.
But we all know it just means uniparty raising taxes. I am sure fed control over schools is "too big to fail".
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Yeah. Kids won’t feel like they are in jail any more than federal and state employees feel they are in jail (unless that is where they work) because a guard and a fortified entrance is used at their building.Don't tell me states and counties can not secure their schools. After the shooting in South Florida most of the counties in the state made important changes. In the county I live a Sheriff deputy is placed in each school. Also a "Guardian" is posted at the entrance. Most often he is a combat veteran who is retired from the military. All are trained to head straight to gun fire if it breaks out in the building. Not wait on orders. They have their orders.
Also there is one point of entry and it has video cameras monitored by security. I am not saying an incident will never break out in the county I live but it sure will not be like the one in Texas turned out. The man below is a "Guardian" in Palmetto, Florida. He is retired military, combat veteran and tested.
The U.S. sends billions over seas so that countries like Ukraine can protect their citizens. Our children deserve better and they can receive it if people would focus on the problem and not on a tool to commit the crime. And the gun is nothing but a tool used by the murderer.
If Roe gets overturned, thank Mitch.
Fact check: false.
You do not want to take guns from ordinary Americans? Change my mind.
2 things can be true at once.
In theory I think we all want that but in reality we should all be terrified of government in general and the left specifically. Letting them pick and choose who is able to have one would go about like their social media censorship goes.
I own guns for one. I just don't think anyone should be able to walk off the street and buy as many people killers as they want with no background check at all. It's easier to buy guns than it is cigarettes in our country in many states. That's silly. It makes no sense.
Good for her. Completely different then the chickens in Texas.
Federal customs agents DEFIED local Texas police chief to kill school shooter: SWAT team overruled dithering cops and burst into class to shoot gunman dead when he jumped out of closet after killing 19 children
Pete Arredondo, chief of police for the Uvalde Consolidated Independent School District, had stopped at least 19 officers from breaking into the school
Steven McCraw, director of Texas Department of Public Safety, said Arredondo mistakenly believed the gunman was contained and no longer a threat
Two federal sources told NBC that teams of border patrol agents from their tactical division were on the scene by 12:00-12:15pm, but told to wait
They stood around for 30 minutes before taking matters into their own hands and deciding to storm the school
Arredondo is yet to appear at any press briefings but officials are facing increasingly angry questions about their handling of the attack
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Arredondo
Pete Arredondo, chief of police for the Uvalde Consolidated Independent School District, had stopped at least 19 officers from breaking into the school
Steven McCraw, director of Texas Department of Public Safety, said Arredondo mistakenly believed the gunman was contained and no longer a threat
Two federal sources told NBC that teams of border patrol agents from their tactical division were on the scene by 12:00-12:15pm, but told to wait
They stood around for 30 minutes before taking matters into their own hands and deciding to storm the school
Arredondo is yet to appear at any press briefings but officials are facing increasingly angry questions about their handling of the attack
Federal agents DEFIED Uvalde police chief's order not to enter school
Members of an elite tactical border patrol unit arrived at Robb Elementary School at around midday, but were told by the chief of the school district police to not enter the school.
Arredondo
It's really sad. Its getting harder to support police after the covid nonsense and things like this incident and also Parkland (can also throw Jan 6 in this as well)Hell, what are the pay and incentives those parents could give them just to get out of the way? CHILDREN were getting slaughtered and they stood outside in tactical gear...'acting' like they were cops...'playing' cop...not being a f-cking cop.
F-ck every last one of them. I know they won't get it, but any cop that handcuffed or tasered a parent...I would give them a life sentence. They peppered sprayed a parent trying to save his child.
It's one thing if you won't do your job, it's another thing if you are preventing others from stopping carnage.
With apologies to those who serve honorably, looks like he’s eaten quite a few donuts in his time…..Federal customs agents DEFIED local Texas police chief to kill school shooter: SWAT team overruled dithering cops and burst into class to shoot gunman dead when he jumped out of closet after killing 19 children
Pete Arredondo, chief of police for the Uvalde Consolidated Independent School District, had stopped at least 19 officers from breaking into the school
Steven McCraw, director of Texas Department of Public Safety, said Arredondo mistakenly believed the gunman was contained and no longer a threat
Two federal sources told NBC that teams of border patrol agents from their tactical division were on the scene by 12:00-12:15pm, but told to wait
They stood around for 30 minutes before taking matters into their own hands and deciding to storm the school
Arredondo is yet to appear at any press briefings but officials are facing increasingly angry questions about their handling of the attack
Federal agents DEFIED Uvalde police chief's order not to enter school
Members of an elite tactical border patrol unit arrived at Robb Elementary School at around midday, but were told by the chief of the school district police to not enter the school.
Arredondo
I appreciate your effort. I hope you are discussing in good faith.
Anyone can say on here they own one. Do you have a history of offering common sense proposals?
With all due respect: The rest of your post is bullsh1t. Stupid leftie talking points with zero factual basis behind it.
Right now, I can go buy a pack of cigarettes from a dozen places within a 5 minute walk and walk home with them. The closest gun shop is miles away. And IF i wanted to buy a gun, i will have to wait 3 days. I know that is true because i have done it three times. From different dealers.
So, the statement is factually NOT TRUE.
Also, which kills more people? Let me help you, man. According to your CDC, "Cigarette smoking causes about one of every five deaths in the United States each year."
Are you saying that guns cause more than 20% of all deaths? That is an absolutely rediculous claim.
Question 1 ... is there any law, making it illegal to kill someone? How about with a gun? Killing people is the problem. If the crazies never killed someone, with a gun or not, then no one would care what they have. If the bad guys broke one law to murder innocents, then why wont they break 2? The utter lack of factual logic is amazing.
Question 2 ... what do "gun free zones" mean? They result in places in which NO ONE can defend themselves. Crazy. The irony is ppl "feel" safe in a "gun -free" zone and the opposite is the truth.
Here is a compromise, lets see if you take it ... how about we have a mandatory class in high school about gun safety. And teach people how to use guns responsibly? Would you consider that?
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Would she defend the best selling book to ever be written in the library as well?
Or is she just a groomer?
Expert... LOL. Yea. Like muh russia. You go boy.
Leftists calling for violence is now common. Violence against gun owners, against politicians, against judges, against property owners, against pro-life people. These aren’t fringe people, these are so-called mainstream voices.
Give up your guns at your peril.
Great steak tonight. Certainly one of the things that makes me confident there is a God.
Knowls, if you see this...I hope your peas and carrots were good.
RIP Ray Liotta...Goodfellas was one of the best all time.
Knowls, if you see this...I hope your peas and carrots were good.
RIP Ray Liotta...Goodfellas was one of the best all time.
Again? How many times has he had it?
His outcome would be exactly the same if he was unvaxxed. Just pure nonsense. He may as well thank an amulet or his rabbits foot.
I was just about to post the same thing. Hell of a vaccine.
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