POLITICAL THREAD

[exemjr]

There are many situations I would agree with what you wrote...cop chasing someone, does he have a gun...does he not have a gun, cop makes a split second decision...someone on their couch acting like they have all the answers and would have done better generally needs to shut up cause most of us have never been in such a situation.

This Texas situation doesn't seem like armchair quarterbacking to me...an elementary school is getting shot up. Parents getting harassed in the parking lot by cops dressed and armed liked soldiers dropped in Fallujah and yet those cops don't go inside? And one border control agent dressed normally runs in with a shotgun from the barber shop and ends it?

I lived in a small town or two where some cops strutted around like they were Rambo and clearly enjoyed the little power they were given...that is fine, but guess what, if the local school ever becomes a war zone it is their gawd damn to go inside. Firemen have to run into blazing buildings and cops are there to protect the community. Protect kids facing a gunman. Even if they got to take the bullets themselves. What is the point of having a police force if they stand outside the moment they are needed the most?

Side note, how many of these mass shooters end up getting taken alive like the one in Buffalo? Seems like there have been a lot of them, as soon as the bullets start coming their way or even the potential of it...it seems a lot of these types surrender fairly quickly.

This isn't a tough guy post, have no idea even if I had a gun if I would run into that building. I hope in that moment I would have had that courage to go in but none of us know until put there. But I'm a civilian with no training...I'm sorry, I got no sympathy for any of those cops in Texas. The only non-coward in the whole mess is the border agent. That dude should never have to pay for a meal or a beer ever again.

I have generally on here supported police when a questionable situation came up, but this one looks bad. Kids were dying. 50 of them can't just stand outside.

I agree with what you wrote and don't think cops are above reproach on every decision. Like you said, in most situations, they have to make split second decisions and don't get the benefit of the doubt if they make the wrong decision. With today's social media interactions, most of the most intense situations that police are involved in are unfairly scrutinized, and they are unfairly vilified.

With that being said, based on the information we have so far, I completely agree with your thoughts on this. There is no way they should have waited to go in with kids at risk. To me, that decision is so egregiously wrong and against human nature, that I won't even try to defend it. However, the spirit of my post was more along the lines of the scrutiny the police would have faced if their entry into the school to neutralize the shooter would have resulted in the deaths of children. I guarantee you the social media warriors would have been out in full force saying that if they would have waited, kids lives would have been saved.

Thank God there was one person there that had the stones to not care about orders and to uphold his oath to protect and serve. I can't imagine being one of those parents outside and honestly don't know what I would have done. Probably would have been arrested.

 

[jameslee32]

The cowardice runs deep.

 

[Bill Derington]

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Seem like reasonable people…no wonder they get upset when mental illness is brought up.

 

[FirewithFire]

Here we go. A "retired federal agent". I wonder what the odds are he was working as a contractor? Sounds like the shooter had a coach. Wonder where I have heard a story like this before?

Authorities investigating if retired federal agent knew of Buffalo mass shooting plans in advance

Officials are investigating whether a retired federal agent had about 30 minutes advance notice of a white supremacist's plans to murder Black people at a Buffalo supermarket.

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In a passage dated May 2, he quoted Saint Sandman as saying: "When the time finally comes to deal decisively with a whole host of society's problems, and not go to prison for it, you'll know. Just be ready. You have spent your entire life, from the day you were born, right up to this very moment, reading this sentence, coming to where you are right now. Look around you. Are you content with where you are right now? Are you where you want to be? If so, continue to march. If not, what are you going to do? What's your plan? Get and keep your mind, body, and spirit right. Pray. Lift. Run. Read. Shoot. And teach your kids to do those things.”

 

[FirewithFire]

So the cops held back and didn't go in. Who ordered them to wait? That is the question I want answered and I want those people to explain that decision.

 

[bigblueinsanity]

How did he become good enough in handling it so quickly that he could shoot two cops?

By the sounds of it, the competency of the local police was questionable. Still he has to spend time somewhere getting familiar with the weapons. I assume out there, there is plenty of open space to shoot guns with no questions asked

 

[bigblueinsanity]

I see the AP is doing a deep dive on every child that died. They must think there are a lot of clicks on that bone yet

 

[exemjr]

So the cops held back and didn't go in. Who ordered them to wait? That is the question I want answered and I want those people to explain that decision.

Here's an article that explains some of it. Supposedly, they thought it was a person barricaded in with hostages...

https://www.foxnews.com/us/tactical-team-prevented-from-entering-school-earlier

 

[warrior-cat]

The cowardice runs deep.

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Just in, babies are killed by the millions each year, yet you aren't calling for more abortion control. Hypocrite. Your ignorance runs deeper.

 

[dbmhoosier]

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[TheFrontRunner]

 

[UKBrassowTipIN]

The cowardice runs deep.

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Yrs keep posting this guy. Lol where do you find these ppl? The same guy that last week claimed that after govt intervention and shutdown it was actually trumps fault there was no formula, bc we couldn't get it from Canada, although before 96% of it came domestically and not one person in the country thought things would be so bad we wouldn't have it when those embargoes were put into place.

You're doing great.

Your favorite was making some incredible posts today:

Ah yes, Biden can only be failed, he tho cannot. So weird how all these bad things keep happening around him.

 

[UKBrassowTipIN]

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Lol, this is why democrats aren't interested in doing anything...they know ppl are stupid and constantly need someone to blame. You keep hearing them say the "gun lobby". The "gun lobby" gave 2 million dollars...that influences no one. The govt loses more money than that in a day.

For reference: big tech gave 100 million+, big pharma 100 million, planned parenthood 45 million (atleast)

 

[UK82]

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[JoeSwag]

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Dems are absolute morons. I swear to God, there’s not a dumber or more evil bunch than these people.

No GD logic involved. They will take up for criminals. Blame everyone but the person who did something unless it’s a white guy. Islamic terrorist or an illegal or a black person does something, blame cops, blame gun, blame the NRA. I’m so sick of these people.

They operate in a bubble of BS where they’re considered the good guys at all times and they and anyone they support on the identity politics pyramid are infallible. But those who are a law abiding citizen who simply want to be left alone and raise your family? Well, you’re to blame for everything at all times.

 

[JoeSwag]

As usual, a Dem does something and it’s someone else’s fault.

That’s a key part of their ideology.

No one should listen to a GD thing they have to say considering A) They know dick about guns B) They’re in charge of the cities worst for violent crime C) Do not consider any possible contributing factor other than simply “guns.”

More people will die in a weekend in Chicago by a handgun that’s illegally possessed than in a mass shooting and Dems and their media will be nothing but crickets.

They will bail out a BLM nut who tried to kill a mayoral candidate but then say “do something” lol

 

[mdlUK.1]

 

[screwduke1]

 

[screwduke1]

 

[screwduke1]

 

[Catfan in Tn.]

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Don’t t worry Gabe Biden will be gone soon, just not soon enough.

 

[Fact_Checker]

This is a good man I would gladly vote for in 2024. Do your thing Republicans. Reject the madness. Nominate a real conservative and a good man instead of Trump.

After years of preparation, Pence looks poised for launch with Georgia validation

On Tuesday night, with a strong defeat of former President Donald Trump’s handpicked candidates for Georgia governor and secretary of state, the path to the White House for former Vice President Mike Pence widened.

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[screwduke1]

 

[JoeSwag]

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All of these politicians should be dragged into the streets. Our government is an enemy to the citizens of this country. Corrupt evil scum.

 

[UK_fan_41102]

 

[Catfan in Tn.]

This is a good man I would gladly vote for in 2024. Do your thing Republicans. Reject the madness. Nominate a real conservative and a good man instead of Trump.

After years of preparation, Pence looks poised for launch with Georgia validation

On Tuesday night, with a strong defeat of former President Donald Trump’s handpicked candidates for Georgia governor and secretary of state, the path to the White House for former Vice President Mike Pence widened.

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Trump was something like 108-6 on his picks.

 

[Wildcats1st]

Don't tell me states and counties can not secure their schools. After the shooting in South Florida most of the counties in the state made important changes. In the county I live a Sheriff deputy is placed in each school. Also a "Guardian" is posted at the entrance. Most often he is a combat veteran who is retired from the military. All are trained to head straight to gun fire if it breaks out in the building. Not wait on orders. They have their orders.

Also there is one point of entry and it has video cameras monitored by security. I am not saying an incident will never break out in the county I live but it sure will not be like the one in Texas turned out. The man below is a "Guardian" in Palmetto, Florida. He is retired military, combat veteran and tested.

The U.S. sends billions over seas so that countries like Ukraine can protect their citizens. Our children deserve better and they can receive it if people would focus on the problem and not on a tool to commit the crime. And the gun is nothing but a tool used by the murderer.

And if a school has to unload a couple teachers to afford armed security so be it. I was a teacher for a quarter century and the bs they spend money on while kids are targeted is disgusting.

i say let the parents start suing the hell out of districts where there is a mass shooting. Shit will change fast. Take away federal funding for any state that doesn’t meet a safety report card. They do it for academics. Do it for what really matters and is the districts first job. Keeping kids safe.

the district btw I worked in in CO. To get into the ADmin building there was X-ray and metal detectors. Protect that ego maniacal superintendent at all costs but leave it up to chance with the kids. Friggin hypocrisy of schools

 

[screwduke1]

 

[UK_fan_41102]

 

[screwduke1]

 

[AustinTXCat]

MAGA! The Trump organization has officially been labeled a criminal organization. The CFO has worked out a plea deal and squealing like a fat little piggy. A tailor was seen at Maralago fitting out the crime family for custom orange jumpers. One day conservatives will stop worshipping criminals.

 

[hmt5000]

China flew 15ish jets over Taiwan and into Japan airspace during the Asian summit Biden just attended. I guess Biden gaffing didn't worry China from breaking 2 countries air space. But then again.... Biden doesn't care about our borders either.

 

[TheFrontRunner]

But damn...don't they look tough when taking pics...

 

[hmt5000]

Not sure because of the bad info but it's being reported that one of the cops was in the school to visit his wife and ran out.


If that is true.....

 

[hmt5000]

Also reports that Ukraine is folding in eastern Ukraine. Russia just took 2 cities with little resistance. One salvo and the army ran or surrendered.

If this keeps up it will mean that everyone that pushed for more war was just costing more live and money with the same exact end that anyone with a brain could predict. 100 to 400 Ukraine deaths per day. We could of negotiated the separation of the Donbas months ago. Do the math and add $56 billion.

 

[TheFrontRunner]

 

[hmt5000]

Also reports that Ukraine is folding in eastern Ukraine. Russia just took 2 cities with little resistance. One salvo and the army ran or surrendered.

If this keeps up it will mean that everyone that pushed for more war was just costing more live and money with the same exact end that anyone with a brain could predict. 100 to 400 Ukraine deaths per day. We could of negotiated the separation of the Donbas months ago. Do the math and add $56 billion.

And most of the money we are spending is going to replace US weapons that we donated to Ukraine.... We aren't sending them new functional stuff. All those videos you see are rare as a %. Apparently most of the stingers and anti tank weapons we are sending are so old that the batteries are failing and they are useless.

 

[hmt5000]

Even Kissinger is admitting that ceding territory is the only end to this war. Henry is as big of a globalist shill as there is. If he's saying this then it's over. Every death after after this point is thrown away for pride.

 

[TheFrontRunner]

 

[hmt5000]

Break down of Sussman trial from court records. I know most won't watch this but it's clear Hillary Clinton started the Trump Russia Collusion hoax. They litter ali had all the sides of the reporting under their control. It was all billed to clinton. all of it. Hillary signed off on releasing the fake alfa story. If you still believe MUH RUSSIA you are the problem.