POLITICAL THREAD

[JoeSwag]

I appreciate the attempt at a real answer.

The United States has the greatest, fairest, most opportunistic form of Government the world has ever known, warts and all. It is far from perfect, but it is the best mankind is capable of forming and keeping.

Right now, today, those same ideals that brought us here to form our country are being fought and died for in Ukraine by the Ukrainian people struggling to keep what we take for granted. In Russia it is a 15 year jail sentence for what we are here doing right now in this thread.

Yes, I stand with my country and the people and Government of Ukraine against Putin, Russia, and his Chinese allies. My stance does not mean Ukraine nor the United States are perfect, it means that the values of the United States are my values as well and they are also the same ones Ukrainians are bravely fighting and dying for as we chat here, safely in our homes.

When the smoke is cleared and Putin defeated, it will be time for us to address what is wrong here at home in our politics. I personally believe if we don't unite in the center against the extremes on both sides then we are undone, but that time is not now.

So if in your eyes that makes me "naive" or a "rube" for believing in my country then I am guilty as charged. What I will not be is a person on the sidelines cheering on the enemy under one pretense or another. This is a simple choice and thankfully for all of you there are no jail sentences awaiting your decisions on whether or not to continue your cheer leading of Putin, Russia, and China against Ukraine.

This is rich. Your party has been absolute puppets of China. I don't think there's a leftist industry that hasn't taken China's money and done whatever they wanted. You all misrepresent so much and your constant phoniness is on display. You got the buzzwords down and your base eats up the humanitarian bullshit sold to cover the true political agenda.

You all blend in and out of whatever the latest talking point is. Even if you had a stance a week ago, that's tossed out in order to try and achieve whatever power Dems seek to acquire or whatever narrative they wish to shift. The shift on war is amusing and incredibly contradictory on your part not on ours. You're the ones who portray yourselves as anti-war yet are all about it and despite the theatrics under Bush, you're all about the Dem warhawks.

You also believe everything you do is virtuous. Your blind obedience to everything Democrat is "virtuous" and anyone who doesn't bow down to the machine is subjected to your hysterics. You just shift as soon as the TV tells you to. A month ago, your TV told you to hate anyone who didn't get four shots and wear two masks. You had the "I'm vaccinated" profile pic filter on your social media, your party tried to take away people's livelihoods and now, BOOM, it's "Ukraine! Ukraine! Ukraine!" You are a cult.

Oh, and the "extremes of both parties" stuff is even more amusing. You don't even know what extreme is because what's normal to you is radical leftism which permeates through every influential industry throughout our country. Meanwhile, a parent taking an interest in not wanting their children subjected to radical leftism indoctrination and useless mask mandates from leftist school board members is "extreme." If conservatives were extreme, you all wouldn't be so mouthy and aggressive all the time...kind of like how you've always been terrified to offend Muslims but never Christians.

The Democrat Party agenda is pure radicalism so you can drop the "Oh geez, I'm a sensible moderate as I parrot every single leftist talking point at all times." No one is goin to unite with a group who wants open borders, mass government control, and with a group who has slandered us for years. So you and your 50 accounts can GFY, Z.

 

[Gassy_Knowls]

Ah, the critical thought person. How do you flatter yourself.

lol, he gives more critical thought than you give.

you align with every globalist MSM narrative. When’s the next WEF meeting for you all to talk about the destruction of America?

 

[Bessarabia]

What makes you a naive rube is thinking people who are not fully supporting the current mainstream narrative are somehow supporting Russia or are anti-American.

There’s a hell of a lot of nuance, and the best you could do was come up with some lame comments about a New York real estate swindler.

What makes you a naive rube is buying completely into the mainstream corporate narrative every step of the way without exercising critical thought. I’m sure your positions on Covid fall directly in line with your positions on Trump and Ukraine.

There’s a genocide going on in China, but you’ll never be told to focus on it, so it will continue into perpetuity. That’s the problem. Your so focused on the popular narrative you’re told to support, but you won’t look behind the curtain.

Your disassociation makes you almost impossible to reply to. China? Really? You find enough equivalency there to introduce that into your main argument/post?

Ideals are big things and lack nuance. The United States and Russia/China are diametrically opposed. No nuance is needed to discern your loyalty there. You can't say because you had a bad omelette in Omaha that Russia and America might as well be the same.

This "mainstream corporate narrative" happens to be "reality" so "yes" I am big into participating in the actual real world instead of some fringe internet nutcase conspiracy group that thinks pedophiles operating pizza shops are running rampant in the Democratic Party. Seriously, why would you even think I need to respond to that sort of thing?

 

[JoeSwag]

What makes you a naive rube is thinking people who are not fully supporting the current mainstream narrative are somehow supporting Russia or are anti-American.

There’s a hell of a lot of nuance, and the best you could do was come up with some lame comments about a New York real estate swindler.

What makes you a naive rube is buying completely into the mainstream corporate narrative every step of the way without exercising critical thought. I’m sure your positions on Covid fall directly in line with your positions on Trump and Ukraine.

There’s a genocide going on in China, but you’ll never be told to focus on it, so it will continue into perpetuity. That’s the problem. Your so focused on the popular narrative you’re told to support, but you won’t look behind the curtain.

Yep. The China stuff alone shows what frauds they are. But the "won't look behind the curtain" is their motto for everything Dem-related. Anyone who questions them is a "conspiracy theorist." They never learn. When it came to COVID which they claimed was just the deadliest thing ever and killing millions and the virus is why the government needed total control, they seemed to not give a crap at who was responsible.

Yes, the same group who tells little white fifth graders how they're responsible for racism somehow doesn't give a shit about a country (and our government) committing bioterrorism and killing people throughout the world. So keep that in mind when they fake the tears for Ukraine and condemn Russia but never have the balls to say anything about China because we all know they're compromised.

 

[AustinTXCat]

You way over estimate Trumps bargaining power and way under estimate China's ability to plan long term. Xi has China's roadmap laid out for 50 years. We can't even map out our future for 50 days. Im real sure they will just cave after a month, that has worked out real well so far. China is growing 3x faster than we are, they have a lot more room to breath and a leader that has no fear of losing an election. The US companies that are taking a big hit from the tariffs aren't even bringing the jobs back to the US, they are moving them to Vietnam. The rest of the companies will just raise prices and crush consumers. So the tariffs are a complete failure at every level.

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Gasoline, food lift U.S. producer prices in February

U.S. producer prices increased solidly in February as the cost of goods like gasoline surged, and further gains are in the pipeline following Russia's war against Ukraine, which has made crude oil and other commodities more expensive. The report from the Labor Department on Tuesday offered more...

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Thanks, Joe!

 

[SDC888]

The Democrat Party agenda is pure radicalism

This.

As a liberal, I can never vote for them again, which is maybe the thing that peeves me off the most about them.

They left me no choice. I can't go down that path.

 

[Gassy_Knowls]

Yep. The China stuff alone shows what frauds they are. But the "won't look behind the curtain" is their motto for everything Dem-related. Anyone who questions them is a "conspiracy theorist." They never learn. When it cam to COVID which they claimed was just the deadliest thing ever and killing millions and the virus is why the government needed total control, they seemed to not give a crap at who was responsible.

Yes, the same group who tells little white fifth graders how they're responsible for racism somehow doesn't give a shit about a country (and our government) committing bioterrorism and killing people throughout the world. So keep that in mind when they fake the tears for Ukraine and condemn Russia but never have the balls to say anything about China because we all know they're compromised.

Don’t worry, these “moderates” will get their next marching orders from the MSM soon enough. All these “moderates” are just left wing fanatical Anti-Americans

 

[SDC888]

Don’t worry, these “moderates” will get their next marching orders from the MSM soon enough. All these “moderates” are just left wing fanatical Anti-Americans

They know they're traitors.

It's why you see them all of the sudden so profusely professing love of country the last few weeks.

 

[Bessarabia]

Projection is the process of displacing one’s feelings onto a different person, animal, or object. The term is most commonly used to describe defensive projection—attributing one’s own unacceptable urges to another. For example, if someone continuously bullies and ridicules a peer about his insecurities, the bully might be projecting his own struggle with self-esteem onto the other person.

The concept emerged from Sigmund Freud’s work on defense mechanisms and was further refined by his daughter, Anna Freud, and other prominent figures in psychology.

 

[Bill Cosby]

Your disassociation makes you almost impossible to reply to. China? Really? You find enough equivalency there to introduce that into your main argument/post?

Ideals are big things and lack nuance. The United States and Russia/China are diametrically opposed. No nuance is needed to discern your loyalty there. You can't say because you had a bad omelette in Omaha that Russia and America might as well be the same.

This "mainstream corporate narrative" happens to be "reality" so "yes" I am big into participating in the actual real world instead of some fringe internet nutcase conspiracy group that thinks pedophiles operating pizza shops are running rampant in the Democratic Party. Seriously, why would you even think I need to respond to that sort of thing?

What name were you posting under before Bessarabia? Would love to see your thoughts on Hong Kong back before those protests were memory holed.

 

[Catman100]

Why did Sam make another sock account?

 

[JoeSwag]

They know they're traitors.

It's why you see them all of the sudden so profusely professing love of country the last few weeks.

I love it too. It's pure comedy that it's coming from the group who burns our flags at protests, has colleges vote to remove the flag to not offend, the ones who orgasm for kneeling during the anthem, tears down statues, and constantly teach how evil America was and is. The group of globalist ideology who condemns nationalism and national interest suddenly cosplaying patriotic love for this country is epic gaslighting.

 

[sefus12]

Haha triggered. TDS

So which resident leftist Is Bess a sock account for?

 

[UK_fan_41102]

 

[Bessarabia]

Think about how much better we'll all feel when the nuts on the left and right are shut up and no longer in control of our parties? When we can argue about real issues instead of some boogieman conjured up to scare you back into voting for people you know are insane? Bill and I have many political differences on the issues, but fundamentally Bill is not a bad guy. He's not a person I would hate because he is a Republican.

Good normal people with political differences. That's what most of us are. Struggling the best we can to go to work, support our families, and live our lives.

How did we get to the point where that made us all enemies? Don't you see how manipulative that was? To make you hate anything that didn't think the way you do?

All liberals are sick pedophiles. All republicans are racist demons. Listen to what the devil is whispering to you and realize we must all cast these lunatics off and once again find the middle. Folks, I will be supporting Mitt Romney in 2024. I hope you will, too.

 

[SDC888]

That's not Sam...

but same terminal disease that's far worse than simple TDS.

 

[Bill Cosby]

Think about how much better we'll all feel when the nuts on the left and right are shut up and no longer in control of our parties? When we can argue about real issues instead of some boogieman conjured up to scare you back into voting for people you know are insane? Bill and I have many political differences on the issues, but fundamentally Bill is not a bad guy. He's not a person I would hate because he is a Republican.

Good normal people with political differences. That's what most of us are. Struggling the best we can to go to work, support our families, and live our lives.

How did we get to the point where that made us all enemies? Don't you see how manipulative that was? To make you hate anything that didn't think the way you do?

All liberals are sick pedophiles. All republicans are racist demons. Listen to what the devil is whispering to you and realize we must all cast these lunatics off and once again find the middle. Folks, I will be supporting Mitt Romney in 2024. I hope you will, too.

It’s not right v left. It’s top v bottom. Get that through your head and you’ll understand a lot of my position on the current US government, Ukraine, Russia, China, etc.

 

[AustinTXCat]

Oil is now cheaper than milk. Start chugging it up ya Trumpsters! Hopefully all of you are hitting the streets to protest. Best thing that could happen for November.

Fast forward two years later....

 

[ukalumni00]

Absolutely hilarious listening to all these losers saying Tucker Carlson is a Puten apologist. It sounds so much like the same BS they spew about things Trumps says when all it takes is for anyone to listen to a full Trump rally to understand what his full message is instead of sound bites these turds selectively edit to match their narrative.

I think I am a relatively smart/common sense kind of person that has listened to Tucker's full remarks about Putin and everything else and he is like Trump in that he is an equal opportunist when it comes to going after the filth in Washington and in the media. Wonder why Lyndsey Graham or Mitch McConnell who we all know are POS RHINO's refuses to go on his show but Hannity is all about him some Lyndsey and the other usual GOP hacks on a nightly basis. Guess who has the higher ratings??

Who knows what the real facts are these days but seems Tucker and his team do a pretty good job investigating things before airing his commentary on it. When a high ranking government official says under oath they are worried about biolabs in Ukraine being compromised by the Russians and Tucker and Tulsi discuss her exact words, how is that being puppets for Putin??

 

[P19978]

This.

As a liberal, I can never vote for them again, which is maybe the thing that peeves me off the most about them.

They left me no choice. I can't go down that path.

The best thing for this country is to have the Democratic Party break into 2 new parties: The Insane Party and The Moderate (Sane) Party.

 

[trueblujr2]

Projection is the process of displacing one’s feelings onto a different person, animal, or object. The term is most commonly used to describe defensive projection—attributing one’s own unacceptable urges to another. For example, if someone continuously bullies and ridicules a peer about his insecurities, the bully might be projecting his own struggle with self-esteem onto the other person.

The concept emerged from Sigmund Freud’s work on defense mechanisms and was further refined by his daughter, Anna Freud, and other prominent figures in psychology.

You just described Democrats to a tee.

 

[SDC888]

THat's what they're trying to do to you, split the R party in two.

The Romeny/Cheney's of the world who are corrupt and controlled, vs the America first Trump/Desantis wing.

 

[SDC888]

You just described Democrats to a tee.

If there's one thing they all lack to a T, it's self-awareness.

 

[trueblujr2]

It’s not right v left. It’s top v bottom. Get that through your head and you’ll understand a lot of my position on the current US government, Ukraine, Russia, China, etc.

He basically revealed his sock account identity at the end of that last reply. he's off to ignore already for me. He's a troll.

 

[SDC888]

Disgusting people.

 

[JoeSwag]

The best thing for this country is to have the Democratic Party break into 2 new parties: The Insane Party and The Moderate (Sane) Party.

1992 Bill Clinton would be a far right Nazi to this Democrat Party base. Their party has went so off the rails that everything else is "Far Right."

Let's go back and just look at views 20 years ago and you tell me which party abandoned shared views and adopted radical ones.

 

[gobigbluebell]

Fox News is sickening with this Russia crap. If you Dions/Ed’s out there really think Fox News ain’t on your team, you’re stupid. CNN/Fox both work towards the same goal, just different audiences, so different direction/delivery of propaganda. But they’re 110% globalist nwo bs.

Just like George W. That’s your man, Dions.

 

[OHIO COLONEL]

He basically revealed his sock account identity at the end of that last reply. he's off to ignore already for me. He's a troll.

His first post (bess..) reminded me a lot of Mitt2024. Who I put on ignore...as I will bess...

 

[dbmhoosier]

 

[OHIO COLONEL]

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Russia-Ukraine war exposes fissures between Obama, Biden officials with oil-rich country leaders

Biden looks to secure oil production with the Middle East as the U.S. and Europe introduce Russian-oil boycotts amid its invasion in Ukraine.

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[TheFrontRunner]

 

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[Blue_2_the_bone]

LMAO.

To be fair, the girl was much hotter in her pictures in the article than her mugshot. So I’m with you on this one.

 

[ukalumni00]

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If/when this happens this country is completely screwed. This may worry me more than anything else outside of a nuclear war. I knew Biden would be a mess but he and the Dems have been far worse than I ever expected.

 

[Blue_2_the_bone]

Is that 60 year old Colin Kapernick?

 

[UK_fan_41102]

Another liberal run cesspool of a city.

Homeless criminal throws nurse down stairs at Seattle rail station

Alexander Jay, 40, a homeless career criminal, has been charged with second-degree assault stemming from a March 2 attack targeting a 62-year-old nurse, who was thrown down the stairs.

www.google.com

Amazon relocating employees from Seattle office after violent crime surge

Roughly 1,800 Amazon employees are assigned to the office space on Third Avenue and Pine Street in Seattle, but many of the employees are still working remotely.

nypost.com

 

[bigblueinsanity]

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Been on the verge of this for a few years. Was really close a few g20 summits ago iirc.

That's the real reason libs are destroying the dollar. Following their orders to enrich their Chinese principals. It's treasonous and disgusting.

The most shocking thing of all this was how little it took for them to literally hand their country over to enemies. The Bidens got paid, but not nearly what you'd think. Billary got paid by Russia in uranium one but was only like 10 million. I always assumed it would take billions but not was I wrong

 

[55wildcat]

Funny, they use this for their propaganda, I ****ing despise democrats and their left liberals anymore...

Politico demands Hawley stop using Jan. 6 photo on ...

 

[TheFrontRunner]