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How will they rule ??!

  • YES - Qualified

    Votes: 41 82.0%
  • NO - Disqualified

    Votes: 9 18.0%

  • Total voters
    50
  • Poll closed .
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Can you believe that someone crawls into bed with that every night?
 
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And for taxation as well as representation as you point out. For legal purposes they’re worth 3/5. It’s codified. You’re trying to play semantics by saying that somehow doesn’t make them less of a person. What, philosophically? Pointless. Legally, it does.
No. For representation in the USA Congress you count 3/5 of them. You don't slice each enslaved person into two pieces. And legally they weren't persons at all but property like cows. Had no legal rights. Might as well have said "count 1/10 of horses for representation". I'm sure they didn't count at all towards representation in slave states. Quit trying to twist the facts.
 
The actual reality is this, the black American won the lottery. Of the some 10 million slaves that came to the Americas, liek 300k ended up in the United States of America. Their descendants are the wealthiest, most prosperous black people on the planet, an integral and invaluable constituent/contributor to this nation's greatness.
The slaves imported into America did not win any lottery. And neither did their descendants till after 1964. Today & for the ~ last 30 years, yes.
 
That line points out the opposite, that it was wholly based on race. What’s the difference between “free Persons, including those bound to Service for a Term of Years,” and slaves never to be a “free Person”? Indentured servitude versus chattel slavery based on race. Poor white and black people had entirely different legal rights.
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Really? You're going there?

"whole Number of free Persons, including those bound to Service for a Term of Years, and excluding Indians not taxed, three fifths of all other Persons."

That's saying if you're not free you're 3/5s of a free person.

Whole number of free persons equals 1

Three fifths of all other persons means those who aren't free nor are Indians.

Who in the country were not free?

Slaves

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Plus in my original post I listed much more than just the 3/5s compromise but you happen to just block that out.

Nothing in the original post was "racist fiction" it was a list of things that affected people in our country and my point was all history should be taught, the good and bad. I don't see how that's racist.

I mean just how you interpreted what's in the constitution is a sign it should be taught.

Based on how you interpreted what's in the constitution you really have your head in the sand. You'll probably respond saying "but it still doesn't mention skin hue, just those who aren't free, it could be anyone!"
I thought of ALL the lefties you would appreciate accuracy the most. Unfortunaly, not. You must be too deep in your hatred to see what happened ... ppl (humans wbo never had any human rights anywhere around the world) were suddenly acknowlwdged to have these human rights. This changed things in a positive directiion. (IIRC ironically, it was the north that objected to slaves being xounted as a full person for ENUMERATION purposes. I could be wrong on the basis of the norths objection, but i think im correct.)

I could take more time to state it eloquently, but im dealing w a parent dying. Believe what you will...
 
I said twenties. Haven't been a student for a good while. And again I have no student loans, Bernie's proposals wouldn't apply to me. Understanding economics and political science are integral to understanding history. I guarantee that you and the majority of this board have not actually read Marx yourself and have no idea what you're really railing at.
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I thought of ALL the lefties you would appreciate accuracy the most. Unfortunaly, not. You must be too deep in your hatred to see what happened ... ppl (humans wbo never had any human rights anywhere around the world) were suddenly acknowlwdged to have these human rights. This changed things in a positive directiion. (IIRC ironically, it was the north that objected to slaves being xounted as a full person for ENUMERATION purposes. I could be wrong on the basis of the norths objection, but i think im correct.)

I could take more time to state it eloquently, but im dealing w a parent dying. Believe what you will...
There's no hatred from my end but with that being said, spend time with your family. Discourse can happen later. Sorry you're going through that.
 
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Whenever you post something like this, I immediately check my investments.

And hope for the best.
No hidden meaning in that quote... although on today's call research is starting to see value in long term bonds because we think rates are close to peaking because growth is slowing... which means the next step is... you guessed it... recession.

Yellen is already using the old phrase "soft landing"... which really means "We've screwed the pooch and can't fix it".
 
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