Agree on all points.
To add to this, if it weren’t for his vast digression in the playoffs, I could argue him a late first round pick in this draft. Dude is unreal.
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To add to this, if it weren’t for his vast digression in the playoffs, I could argue him a late first round pick in this draft. Dude is unreal.
kershaw pitched 200+ innings 2 times in those 5 years. koufax pitches 300+ innings 3 times. huge difference in responsibility. if anything the resting of guys nowadays works against them a little here. that’s good for wear and tear and a 5 season span like our nba drafts, but this is one series, and at his peak you can’t really touch koufax. especially with numbers.
that’s kind of secondary to the main point anyway. you’re the one that put “better” in caps. so in the pissing contest you didn’t want you’re the one who unzipped first.
My favorite thing about Kershaw is the way he looks just like a little boy who has shit his pants, when he gives up a big situation home run.
lol i actually like him alright. he’s one i actually have seen live a few times at dodger stadium. also he did have to face the astros so maybe we knock a point off his era. regardless he’s not better than koufax at his peak. the best stat for koufax may just be pete rose saying he was untouchable, batting only .175 against him.
i have like 50 players in waiting and wanted 5 specifically and he was one. lefty, good fielder, clutch as all get out at his peak. great pick.
That’s because when you look at all 12 years Kershaw’s stats are better. Wins, ERA, strikeouts, and WHIP. His 12-year stats are better than 12 years of Koufax. But that’s not to say that he was better in his prime or in the playoffs. Ultimately if I could pick one for my team, I’d still take Koufax for sure. My point is simply that Kershaw belongs in the conversation with guys like him.
In the Koufax days, pitchers were treated different. I read a story about Koufax that took place in spring training that caused Koufax to retire. The Dodgers felt they had to know if they could depend on Koufax in the coming season. Instead of bringing him along slowly and nursing his arm, they forced him to pitch like a 150 pitch outing to see if his arm would be able to take it. He feared he'd lose use of the arm and chose to retire.
no doubt. it looks knee jerk to you my responding, but i think it shows everywhere that we have to avoid comparisons if we don’t feel like arguing/defending. you happened to pick my guy. besides the less serious people take this the less fun it would be. that is the nature of all nerd fantasies and we’re already guilty just for playing. so go with it. the only cause here is we both just shared a lot more stats about our aces.
Time to start putting together this pitching staff. I've went back and forth about 20 times on the combination of about 10 different pitchers. I'm sure that no matter who I pick, I'm going to have buyer's remorse but here goes.
My first pick is one of the most decorated post season pitchers of all time. Six time world series champion, former Cy Young award winner, World Series MVP. The Chairman of the Board, Edward Charles "Whitey" Ford.
Mickey Mantle once said, "I don't care what the situation was, how high the stakes were - the bases could be loaded and the pennant riding on every pitch, it never bothered Whitey (Ford). He pitched his game. Cool. Craft. Nerves of steel."
With my second pick, I am glad that podgejeff took Gaylord Perry, because it makes it easier to go with someone a little "different." This man won over 300 games pitching for one of the most God awful teams of the 70's, the Atlanta Braves. From 72-79, their winning percentage was .478 while his was .539. He's now going to be pitching for a bunch of legends. 11th all time WAR rating for pitchers, 11th all time strikeouts and 16th all time in wins. The master of the knuckleball that will bamboozle all of your all-star sluggers, but not my catcher, Johnny Bench. Knucksie, Phil Niekro.
To quote Bobby Murcer, "Trying to hit Phil Niekro is like trying to eat jello with chopsticks. Sometimes you get a piece but most of the time you get hungry."
My first pick is one of the most decorated post season pitchers of all time. Six time world series champion, former Cy Young award winner, World Series MVP. The Chairman of the Board, Edward Charles "Whitey" Ford.
Mickey Mantle once said, "I don't care what the situation was, how high the stakes were - the bases could be loaded and the pennant riding on every pitch, it never bothered Whitey (Ford). He pitched his game. Cool. Craft. Nerves of steel."
With my second pick, I am glad that podgejeff took Gaylord Perry, because it makes it easier to go with someone a little "different." This man won over 300 games pitching for one of the most God awful teams of the 70's, the Atlanta Braves. From 72-79, their winning percentage was .478 while his was .539. He's now going to be pitching for a bunch of legends. 11th all time WAR rating for pitchers, 11th all time strikeouts and 16th all time in wins. The master of the knuckleball that will bamboozle all of your all-star sluggers, but not my catcher, Johnny Bench. Knucksie, Phil Niekro.
To quote Bobby Murcer, "Trying to hit Phil Niekro is like trying to eat jello with chopsticks. Sometimes you get a piece but most of the time you get hungry."
Those knuckle balls can suck. A player who will likely be picked before we're done was a friend of my brothers in the mid to late '70's and got my brother his minor league offer (which he turned down). Anyway the unnamed player was impressed with my brothers knuckle ball, what I call a fastball knuckle ball. I HATED playing catch with him. He threw that thing around 85 and it would literally bounce up and down 8 inches. I never could figure out how he threw that but you couldn't hit it and could barely catch it.
I have a couple directions to go with my next pick... kinda wish @Cowtown Cat will make it easy on me and select one of em.
Best defensive 3rd baseman of all time. One of anyway. Not debatable.
great picks. ironic i heard an interview where bench said he did not want to catch for him, in real life. he could’ve been up for any catching task, it’s just funny you mention that. those catcher gloves were a foot and a half wide.
Yep, that's why I wanted him...this is such a long draft its just hard to wait and expect to get your guy.
no debate. 16 straight gold gloves. whether you underrate that or not, 16 in a row at one position in the same league? that’s insane. never saw him play but he has the best nickname ever. and everyone in baseball has a nickname. good lord his clips are insane.
Cabrera has done been got.Ahh okay. I took your post wrong. Sorry, man.![[laughing]](http://l.yimg.com/j/assets/img/emoticons/classic/laugh.r191677.gif "Laughing [laughing]")
I’ve got a couple more days until I pick again
Well shit. Hold on. This is the hardest part of the draft. Figuring out who’s available and who’s not.
I just use "find on page" and search each time.
What about Juan Marichal? Please tell me he hasn’t been taken, too.
My pick is Ozzie Smith... left side of my infield is literally locked up.
23 Gold Gloves between Ozzie and Schmidt
@podgejeff_ you are up
23 Gold Gloves between Ozzie and Schmidt
@podgejeff_ you are up
Ah, tip time. The ones on the front page are NOT available.
the back-flipping wizard.
I know, smartass.Ah, tip time. The ones on the front page are NOT available.
I said I would throttle down, but when it's on a tee like that, I'm just human, well, barely.I know, smartass.
