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I don’t think you’re capable.
John Gruden out as Raiders coach
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I don’t think you’re capable.
Gruden participated in such? If he did, it wouldn't surprise me either, and he should face the consequences of that action.
Difference between you and me is that I'd expect charges to be leveled or that his contract would've been terminated BY ESPN rather than the league leaking his 10 yr old private emails to the press.
Just because he was working for ESPN doesn't mean he didn't have an expectation of privacy from people outside ESPN and the immediate participants in the conversation. Work emails are not public emails unless you work for the government.
If the person in charge of the league has a problem with Gruden disliking him and how he handles things, he still shouldn't handle it in this manner. Doing so proves he's unfit for the position and the power given. He should resign as well.
For the record, I don't believe anything about a case should be leaked to anyone prior to trial. It prejudices any potential jury pool, and the leaked info should be inadmissible for that reason. I think it has helped corrupt our legal system. Engineered public sentiment shouldn't be part of the trial process.
I'll expose your self-righteous hypocrisy any way I want. Evident in all the lame replies, in this case it worked perfectly fine.
Not really. People in law enforcement watched them and did nothing. THAT actually says something
Exactly who does that.... especially work related emails
Newsflash, you’re not entitled to privacy when using your employers email. Rather you like it or not, they 100% have the right to read every single word you ever send.
how many you were personally affected from these e-mails?
was anyone affected from these e-mails?
when did having a personality become a crime?
was anyone affected from these e-mails?
when did having a personality become a crime?
He wasn’t charged with a crime. He was fired for being an asshole.
Correction: He resigned.
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sounds like he was punished for expressing an opinion. is it legal to be an asshole?
It is legal but does not mean people will want to put up with you. Is legality the bar for you? Is it the only determination for how you behave?
Because people didn't care as much about this kind of thing beyond 2 years ago. Because cancel culture is a thing now. Because Chuckie probably has pissed off a lot of people in his time. I'm sure someone has been waiting for the opportunity to expose him. Maybe now was the time, who knows.
Read the article. Figure it out. You want to stick up for his behavior, have at it. You should go for it at your work place and test your logic.
In this day and age, whoever wants to be offended by it. People seem to like being offended by everything nowadays. Not me necessarily, but other people.
why are his opinions expressed in a private correspondence so painful to you? are you offended because you are gay?
Hey there’s a lot of this going around. There’s a journalist on TV right now who sexually assaulted a woman and admitted to it by email, aided his predator brother in sexual assault damage control schemes to stay in POWER, lied to millions of people about it, and is now REPORTING ON GRUDEN. LOL. And this is the same guy that used the me2 movement for political benefit and headlines. Way worse.
The hypocrisy of this sort of thing is hilarious. Watching the virtue signaling all around the country is hilarious.
Sexual assault is fine as long as you’re on the right team and pushing the right agenda. That’s the big takeaway from the last year while watching the warriors for women and the me2 movement. Be on the right team. And apparently, Gruden is not.
All of these guys should be tossed. ALL OF THEM. Half the country was ready to put one of the worst offenders of sexual assault we’ve seen publicly in the west wing 4 years ago.
I don’t care if it’s sexual assault, racism, sports, politics, or your aunt. If you’re a pos you need to go. And if you’re evading or making excuses by playing games with this, you need to go to.
“stop being political!” - no, YOU stop being political. That’s the point.
The hypocrisy of this sort of thing is hilarious. Watching the virtue signaling all around the country is hilarious.
Sexual assault is fine as long as you’re on the right team and pushing the right agenda. That’s the big takeaway from the last year while watching the warriors for women and the me2 movement. Be on the right team. And apparently, Gruden is not.
All of these guys should be tossed. ALL OF THEM. Half the country was ready to put one of the worst offenders of sexual assault we’ve seen publicly in the west wing 4 years ago.
I don’t care if it’s sexual assault, racism, sports, politics, or your aunt. If you’re a pos you need to go. And if you’re evading or making excuses by playing games with this, you need to go to.
“stop being political!” - no, YOU stop being political. That’s the point.
Yeah, but how many bans?
Gruden has a known reputation for being an asshole. People seem to either love or hate him. Someone who hates him has most likely been holding this info for a long time, maybe even doing a blackmail thing or the Raiders just wanted out of his contract.
Either way, I couldn't care less about what he wrote or who he wrote it to. This is just another in a long list of him kicking his own ass. He should thank whatever god he worships that he has a high football IQ because his past screw ups point to a sub par intellect.
Oh, and he will have another job by next season. Wonder how he would look in purple and gold?
Biggest football game in modern UK history, hottest topic... Jon Gruden stepping down.
Did Goodall force Fischer to draft Sams? If so, that was a BS move and Goodall should excoriated for it. Sams was not NFL caliber. If someone thought he was, that is understandable, but if he was drafted for the story only, the NFL deserves some crap as the manipulative marketing BSer it is. Football should be about football. If Sams was good enough, he should be drafted. If not, he should not be drafted. Period. His sexuality should not be on the NFL’s, or any fan’s, radar. The NFL is not affirmative action for the gay community, nor should they want that.
You seem to be the one having difficulty with this. Is it because you are a miserable loser?
If true it does. I just can’t believe someone would admit to watching such videos.
Well most people don't have racist, homophobic and mysogynist emails. From your post I guess that's not true for you.
It's awesome that this stuff isn't tolerated any more. This isn't being woke for the Foxnews groupies, this is about human dignity and not being an ignorant moron.
It’s the usual suspects defending such behavior.
How about his players? Do they count? Would you want to play for a guy like that? Not me.
Ever think that maybe this a sports message board and therefore we comment on sports related things. It's really not that hard to figure out if you're not obsessed with partisan politics. Not to mention the right ignored greater offenses to prop up Trump.
But if Biden starts coaching and NFL team then it might make news on this board.
Wow, you really need to evolve with the rest of the world. These emails were disgusting but you're more worried about whether the timing than the actual offense. Of course you're also really upset over the The Washington Football Team so combine the two and I think I know where you're coming from. It's not 1955 anymore, we realize that people of color, women and people of all sexual preferences deserve equal treatment. You know that all "men" are created equal stuff. Stop being racist, its ignorant.
I haven't read any statements from offended players. I would bet, not one player lost a moments sleep over his comments last night.
Wouldn't effect me at all playing for a guy like that. I'm a big boy able to deal with reality in the real world.
I am quite certain you would be sensitive playing for a guy like that.
What work email? Gruden wasn’t employed by the nfl in 2012 when most of this happened. And don’t tell me his good buddy al davis didn’t know how gruden talked conducted him self. Honestly you go through the email of anyone associated with the nfl meaning coaches and players and you wouldn’t have a league bc those guys have talked like gruden for generations. This is no epiphany it’s a witch hunt. Again though what is this work email stuff? Someone else’s work email is what it is and it came from grudens private or espn who like I said did not work directly for the nfl. And yeah this is some woke cancel culture BS. Offensive language is protected speech he didn’t say anything that he should have quit or been fired over and like I said al davis and little davis knew gruden inside and out. You guys slamming this guy I know 100% you have said and done things. It’s utterly ridiculous gruden got run out by loser Goodalls gestapo
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He wasn’t even in the nfl if the media timeline is accurate so wtf you mean head guy? He was an analyst he was a talking head an entertainer at the time
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