I'm confused, what did Gruden say that was inaccurate? Maybe the racist part, I haven't seen that yet.
John Gruden out as Raiders coach
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Let's ignore the comments for a second here. He sent nude pictures of WFT cheerleaders, likely without their consent, that's illegal. That's the kind of stuff that can land someone on a sex offender registry. And he did it on his work email.
Then they should get enough money out of the NFL for sitting on it for 10 years to put it out of business.
Again, why anyone needs to see his emails to know that is kinda surprising to me. He's always been an arrogant ask. Always
Question is - why the Raiders didn't fire him or the NFL didn't fire him and fine the Raiders? I don't know many employers that don't have policies against these very practices. So why the delay? It seems pretty clear that the Raiders and the NFL were acting like folks that didn't want anyone looking through their emails... or maybe they were busy cleaning out their folders first?
Don't get me started but it's the team that took over once the Washington Redskins folded.
I'd like to know more about these pics. Were they nudes that they sent to someone privately or did they pose for these pics professionally? In other words, were the pics already out in the world and he just shared them?
I'd also like to know where one can see these pics for...uhh...research purposes.
THe NFL wasn't sitting on it for 10 years. They discovered the emails as part of their investigation into the Washington Football Team.
Well 1) it was before he was a Raiders coach and 2) the emails were just recently discovered.
I believe a Washington executive made the cheerleaders take the photo at a team event. It was a pretty big story 5 years or so ago.
I'll give you a mulligan for completely whiffing on what I said.
I didn't argue against his firing. What I said was that it makes me sick that people are getting off on this whole situation. It's a sick culture of wanting to see people punished, regardless of whether they should be. He clearly should be. Never said otherwise.
...but why wasn't this done before now? Why didn't the Raiders or the NFL do something immediately instead of letting this fester? And why isn't anyone else asking that question
IF you want to call professionally "do this or you're fired" then yes they were done professionally.
We disagree on that, even thought I can't prove it. See my previous post about software looking for key words. I don't believe for a second that they didn't have that technology.
Oh wait... So was it in his private email or in his work email?
We've still seen this in the news for days so why the delay?
I’m sure there’s some people happy about it. Especially on twitter. I’ve seen more people upset about it than celebrating. Seems to me most on this board are more so commenting on his stupidity to send those emails at work.
It's not just the happiness but just as much the rage and self-righteousness. It's sick and a symptom of a sick society.
Work email. It's only been said like at least a dozen times already in this thread.
Mine has a lot of hateful stuff about my tech. I hate (_) autocorrect would be the leading offender....
It’s laughable that some of you are trying to defend this guy right now. I actually enjoyed Gruden quite a bit before all this, but to send this kinda shit over a work email is an all time f*** up.
He had a 10 year/100 mil contract and people are decrying woke culture over this? Give me a break. He has no business staying in the league and none of the players would have wanted to play for him. It’s over and he cost himself a LOT of money.
He had a 10 year/100 mil contract and people are decrying woke culture over this? Give me a break. He has no business staying in the league and none of the players would have wanted to play for him. It’s over and he cost himself a LOT of money.
Cancel the NBA! And the NFL! And then complain about cancel culture.
I agree with you there. ESPN’s reaction will be funny as they’ll ignore the fact he was their employee when he sent these. I’m certainly not upset with Gruden. We’ve all said things we shouldn’t have and would like to remain private. Not all of us have engaged in sharing nude photos of women in a work email.
My issue is the people that act like this was an off color joke at a bar at 2am trying to get a laugh.
You probably have them blocked. Or they deleted comments. 2 or 3 of some of the earlier posts on this very thread are either deflecting or crying about woke culture. Twitter is also 50/50 it seems.
Edit: no they’re still there, and have some likes as well. I mean it is what it is people are allowed to have an opinion even if it’s objectively dumb.
Right. He should have rapped them and then he could have done the Super Bowl halftime show.
Edit: not defending Gruden, just pointing out the hypocrisy of the NFL.
Dr. Dre, Snoop Dogg, Eminem, Mary J. Blige and Kendrick Lamar to perform Super Bowl Halftime Show
This is going to be incredible!
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I thought I heard about it before the official release by the NFL. Still makes me wonder why the NFL didn't take measures of their own sooner.
Thank you for posting this. Had not read all the details.
I have not paid attention to this story, but is calling another dude a “pussy” misogynistic? If so, I don’t think I know a guy who has not at some time called another guy a pussy.
I'm old enough to remember when people were held responsible for their actions it was called personal accountability, and it was generally widely accepted.
Now when it's white people (largely) being held responsible for hateful, damaging, archaic (and in some cases illegal) behavior and all of a sudden it's woke cancel culture run amok!
Now when it's white people (largely) being held responsible for hateful, damaging, archaic (and in some cases illegal) behavior and all of a sudden it's woke cancel culture run amok!
Right. He should have rapped them and then he could have done the Super Bowl halftime show.
Edit: not defending Gruden, just pointing out the hypocrisy of the NFL.
Dr. Dre, Snoop Dogg, Eminem, Mary J. Blige and Kendrick Lamar to perform Super Bowl Halftime Show
This is going to be incredible!
And I wasn't defending the NFL I was just saying how stupid can one person be to send that stuff on a work email. Anybody who works for a large company knows you don't email/IM anything off-color on your work email/IM. Let alone racist, homophobic comments and nude pictures. People get fired for this junk in the real world all the time he just happens to be a famous idiot.
Yea I don’t think that is a huge deal personally. He’s dumb for calling the NFL commissioner that lol.
It's more than just that. He railed against the NFL hiring female referees and sent nude photos of WFT cheerleaders.
YES, BUT WHY 10 YEARS LATER? NOT DEFENDING GRUDEN.
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