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John Gruden out as Raiders coach

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Ed is virtue signal all star perpetually offended by everything and his takes are the dumbest on this board.
Nobody is defending what Gruden said, that I know of, but the hypocrisy of the NFL having criminals playing in their league is the problem. Thought police run wild, a guy who beat his pregnant girlfriend is fine, a guy who sent dumb e-mails is not.
If you can't see the difference and understand the difference, then you are part of the problem.
For some people, words are worse than physical violence.
 
Does it mean all the players with records and domestic violence charges are going to be released as well? If not, then this is hypocrisy.
Did you see me defending those players? Should Gruden get a pass because that bullshit gets swept under the rug?

Yeah, no and no. Not sure why it’s difficult to say Gruden screwed himself here AND those very same players deserve no place in the league. They’re not mutually exclusive. That’s a whole separate conversation that I’m not sure what has to do with my original comment.
 
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Did you see me defending those players? Should Gruden get a pass because that bullshit gets swept under the rug?

Yeah, no and no. Not sure why it’s difficult to say Gruden screwed himself here AND those very same players deserve no place in the league. They’re not mutually exclusive. That’s a whole separate conversation that I’m not sure what has to do with my original comment.
Did you see me defending Gruden? Seems you're a little sensitive about it.
Gruden dug his own hole, but players have done far worse and still get to play because people think sayi g dimb stuff is worse than doing actual crimes.
You can pretend all you want, but you're one of them.
 
Did you see me defending Gruden? Seems you're a little sensitive about it.
Gruden dug his own hole, but players have done far worse and still get to play because people think sayi g dimb stuff is worse than doing actual crimes.
You can pretend all you want, but you're one of them.
You replied to me initially my man. All I did was respond—that’s not being sensitive.

First, I never said one or the other was worse. Obviously serious proven crimes such as domestic abuse are terrible and should be given more attention.

Second, just because certain players have not received the same level of scrutiny as Gruden, does not mean the scrutiny on Gruden now is an injustice. Gruden deserves to be fired.

Lastly, oh please, stop trying to make this political one side versus the other. We’re all UK fans here, throw that garbage to the side it’s not what we’re here for.
 
Ed is virtue signal all star perpetually offended by everything and his takes are the dumbest on this board.
Nobody is defending what Gruden said, that I know of, but the hypocrisy of the NFL having criminals playing in their league is the problem. Thought police run wild, a guy who beat his pregnant girlfriend is fine, a guy who sent dumb e-mails is not.
If you can't see the difference and understand the difference, then you are part of the problem.
May be time for another apology thread from you. First one sure didn’t help you any.
 
May be time for another apology thread from you. First one sure didn’t help you any.
Yep....you just proved my point. I should apologize to you....it's obvious you have some serious limits. Laughing at a woman marrying someone you know is pure trash says way more about you than you realize.
 
Yep....you just proved my point. I should apologize to you....it's obvious you have some serious limits. Laughing at a woman marrying someone you know is pure trash says way more about you than you realize.
I need no apology from you because you don’t matter to me. I was referring to the blanket apology thread you posted about yourself. How you were going to try and be better and for the people you offended you were sorry. I knew it was bull at the time. You have since proven that over and over. Having you on ignore has been great. You sucked me in by using my name in your post. Now my goal is to ignore when you try and bait me. You are very good at that. Now it’s time to focus on football and the people in my life that matter. Thank you for reminding me.
 
I need no apology from you because you don’t matter to me. I was referring to the blanket apology thread you posted about yourself. How you were going to try and be better and for the people you offended you were sorry. I knew it was bull at the time. You have since proven that over and over. Having you on ignore has been great. You sucked me in by using my name in your post. Now my goal is to ignore when you try and bait me. You are very good at that. Now it’s time to focus on football and the people in my life that matter. Thank you for reminding me.
Yet here you are writing me a letter.....saying basically
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You replied to me initially my man. All I did was respond—that’s not being sensitive.

First, I never said one or the other was worse. Obviously serious proven crimes such as domestic abuse are terrible and should be given more attention.

Second, just because certain players have not received the same level of scrutiny as Gruden, does not mean the scrutiny on Gruden now is an injustice. Gruden deserves to be fired.

Lastly, oh please, stop trying to make this political one side versus the other. We’re all UK fans here, throw that garbage to the side it’s not what we’re here for.
I agree on what Gruden did was dumb. If he deserved to be treated this way, so do the guys who have committed crimes and still get to play was my point.

I just think it's hypocrisy for a guy like Moss to go off on his rant knowing he did far worse and got to play himself into the HOF even though he was not deserving to get to play based on the things he did.

You don't think it's odd that this investigation had 650K e-mails and these are the only ones that have come to light? I'm not saying the e-mails are ok, but it seems a little fishy to me.

I am no Gruden fan. I don't agree with what he said, but if these guys got 2nd, 3rd, and 4th chances for far worse, why doesn't he get the same consideration. I've heard players be very critical of Goodell.

Kaepernick wore socks depicting cops as pigs, is viewed as a hero.

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You replied to me initially my man. All I did was respond—that’s not being sensitive.

First, I never said one or the other was worse. Obviously serious proven crimes such as domestic abuse are terrible and should be given more attention.

Second, just because certain players have not received the same level of scrutiny as Gruden, does not mean the scrutiny on Gruden now is an injustice. Gruden deserves to be fired.

Lastly, oh please, stop trying to make this political one side versus the other. We’re all UK fans here, throw that garbage to the side it’s not what we’re here for.
He makes everything political. 2020 hurt him. He can’t move past it.
 
He makes everything political. 2020 hurt him. He can’t move past it.
Ed, you miss the hypocrisy in your own posts all day long. You Ed-splaining things to Mike Tirico, admitting you supported your boy when you knew he was cheating on his fiancé and now you making a post political claiming someone else cannot get past politics. 🤪
 
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Someone help me here. What was the conclusion of the NFL’s investigation into Washington’s cheerleading accusations?
 
Ed, you miss the hypocrisy in your own posts all day long. You Ed-splaining things to Mike Tirico, admitting you supported your boy when you knew he was cheating on his fiancé and now you making a post political claiming someone else cannot get past politics. 🤪
😂😂😂😂😂. Thanks dad.
 
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