Joker Phillips as OC

[YardCat]

Nope, not a chance! He can come to UK and be honored as a former player who as a head coach almost burnt the football program to the ground.

 

[3632]

That is definitely not true. It really isnt even close. Raphael Little was better than every skill player we have combined.

Which goes back to the recruiting piece and Vince or whomever is really making decisions on players or how they are developed/used while here. We get way higher star guys now… Tamme and Burton were the lowest rated 3star. Little a 3 and dicky Lyons the lowest a rated 2 could be. The one big ratings get for them was the juco add of Stevie Johnson. In an argument against our offensive development capabilities both Keenan Burton and barion Brown were athletes used at qb in hs so had things to learn in college and started behind. Which was more polished by their junior season?

 

[UKnCincy]

Those particular positions, all in one year? Not so much, but he’s had success in those positions going to the NFL and has by far been the most successful in getting players on the both side of the ball to the pros.

Whether Stoops is more successful at getting guys to the pros on the defensive side is not relevant.

The poster I responded to was highlighting the 2007 team’s offense, in particularly its passing ability, as a proof point in favor of Joker’s OC abilities. He then also mentioned Joker achieved those kind of numbers with far less talent.

I was simply pointing out that, if we’re talking about 2007, it’s inaccurate to say that Joker had far less talent. The 2007 team was absolutely loaded with talent at the QB, WR and TE positions (i.e., the positions responsible for throwing and catching the ball).

We had 4 NFL draft picks on the 2007 team across those positions. You know how many QBs, WRs and TEs from Stoops first 11 seasons ended up as NFL draft picks? Just four.

• Bowden in 2020 draft
• Robinson in 2022 draft
• Levis in 2023 draft
• Leary in 2024 draft

Only once did any of those 4 play together on the same team, and that was in 2021 when Levis had Robinson to throw to. Which, not surprisingly, was Stoops best passing team by far.

 

[23jumpboy]

Quite a bit.

Joker OC era was about 7.5 give or take wins a year. CMS averages about 6.

offensively it’s not even close. I remember Andre tossing for about 45 one year…I’m not sure stoops will sniff 45 scores total passing/rushing this year.

Also joker did all that with way less talent and depth. Didn’t have the resources, facilities, nor the million dollar recruiter extraordinaire

Is he available to at least be interviewed?

 

[truebluewildcat]

Is he available to at least be interviewed?

Haha…he’s AHC at NC St. Dont think he runs offense or calls plays. Kind of their Marrow I guess. Recruits and coaches his position.

He coached the receivers that year Devin Leary looked like an all star.

If nothing else just bring him back to do that. Recruit Wrs coach them to be more productive, and consistent. Especially catching the damn ball and moving chains in crucial situations.

That’s worth a couple million a year if you ask me.

 

[UKat1]

Before anyone starts bashing me, I don't want to bring him back. But I was thinking, Joker may have been the best OC (it's him or Mike Leach) we've had in my lifetime. Probably the second worst head coach (ahead of John Ray), but that is beside the point. Joker saved Rich Brooks' job. The offense took off when Brooks replaced Ron Hudson with Joker. The 2007 is the best all-around, gimmick-free, offense we've ever had, 36.5 points and 450 yards per game.

2007 Kentucky Wildcats Stats | College Football at Sports-Reference.com

2007 Kentucky Wildcats Stats

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