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blue cincy said:

Sounds like something west of Lexington.

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blue cincy said:

Sounds like something west of Lexington.

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Why I said Bishop earlier. Could not bring myself to have Cardinal associated.

I’d give him a handful of plays against Texas and UL.

I’d be shocked if we return both GW and BV. Just the nature of the new era. You’re not going to have QB rooms with multiple upper classmen anymore.

For the sake of his development and future as well as depth for next year the staff needs to play him not only the next two games but come up with some sort of Arch Manning plan to get him some run next season as well.

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KAB Cats said:

What about the College of Cardinals? Whose with me?

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Sounds like something west of Lexington.

I said not impressed with Tulane based on the one time I saw them play. You can disagree if you like. I haven't seen them before yesterday.

jeffky said:

Let me see 32 -6 since coaching 7 and 0 conf aac at tulane his first year and 32 and 4 at Troy no not impressed at all man and we wonder why we are in the celler

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kats23 said:

Vandergriff looked good against Southern Miss too. I wouldn’t put much into it. The bottom line is we have 3 horrible QBs on the roster.

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I don’t agree. Boley is a freshman, and to call him “horrible” doesn’t fit with his recent performance. What’s horrible is our OC, and we need better o-line.

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dckala2 said:

Geez, in 37 minutes, Wagner had 0 points, on 0/4 shooting (0/2 from 3). He’s looking like a four year guy who should come off the bench.

It will be great when Knox leaves after accomplishing absolutely nothing.

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Is Knox the younger brother of Kevin?

Hamden wanted a backup quarterback who was a running threat. That’s why he brought in UCLA backup quarterback Collin Schlee for a visit, who Hamden saw in Boise’s bowl game last year. Schlee opted for VPI, and Wimsatt was offered. Schlee has performed admirably for VPI when called upon, hitting on 55% of his passes and rushing for 106 yards, while Wimsatt has been the TEMU version of Schlee, hitting on 40% of his throws and rushing for 102 yards. Like Joey Gatewood, if Wimsatt wants to start at QB, he’s going to need to transfer to an FCS or DII school.

All lies... can see the derangement, the broken person, all in the eyes; the gaslighting they did to these people is truly reprehensible.

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One Mashburn is all this team lacks from being all but invincible. Nobody in his right mind wants a Cal roster.

Vandergriff looked good against Southern Miss too. I wouldn’t put much into it. The bottom line is we have 3 horrible QBs on the roster.

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cathouse said:

Sumrall can't fail any worse than Stoops is failing right now.

What are you saying? Keep the status quo rather than TRYING to improve the program with an experienced D1 WINNING head coach?

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You do realize Stoops has exceeded EVERY coach that preceded him? I’m okay with whatever Stoops decides to do. (It will 100% be his decision this year for multiple reasons.) He’s earned the right to stay another year and try to fix it. I also agree that he looks tired, and he’ll have to find a renewed energy and optimism if he stays.

My original point is that fans are illogical and sticking their head in the sand if they think that hiring a new coach is the only/best way to fix a program. Do 5 mins of research and look up the hit/success rate of hiring a new coach in the SEC. On avg, 1 out of every 3 hires is a success AT schools with rich football history. When you factor in MissSt, Vandy, Arkansas, OleMiss, SC, and some others, then it drops down below 1 out of 3.

Here’s where most everyone agrees. We cannot and should not stay where we are. 6-7 wins should be be FLOOR. However, Stoops is the only coach that has been able to raise that floor for any length of time. He’s also shown he can get us to 10 wins, and that puts us knocking on the 12 team CFP.

Big Question - Can he get us back to where he once had us? I don’t pretend to know that answer. What I do know is that a new coach is not as guaranteed as people want to make it out to be. History reveals this to be true.

At some point, changes do have to be made. Both of those statements can be true.

JrandoUK said:

I wish Stoops would take a position within the Athletic Dept for FB. Fundraising, NIL, Consultant or something like that.

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Yeah I thought that was the route Cal should’ve taken not to long after his peak before the slide and early round upsets started. Become a figure head, run the combines, set up the ex player tournaments, etc…maybe go work with USA basketball so we have direct line like Duke.

That’s not a terrible idea. Like another poster said though, I think that’s what is wearing coaches out. That’s what they don’t want to do anymore.

I do think that is inevitably a position that P2 programs are going to have to look into now.

Essentially a GM/President role to handle all the extra shit. I mean pro coaches coach. A few have some input into roster and finances, but most don’t.

Now that P2 is basically professional and there’s payroll, contracts, etc to manage, athletic departments are going to have to set up a front office.

Can’t keep piling on all the responsibilities onto the coach.

Also, I would argue that because players are getting money that there really shouldn’t be as much recruiting anymore. Pros don’t recruit. Cats show up and try out.

That’s especially the case now that rosters are getting cut.

Now that it’s a paid gig with fewer available open positions, kids need to be coming to campus and trying to impress.

megablue said:

This is an excellent question and one that begs to be answered. It will be interesting to see if CMP's program will have what it takes to retain players from year-to-year. If because of playing time, NIL$$$ and the portal, it turns out that assumptions made by many about roster continuity are incorrect, fans will have to accept this reality. Firstly, we'll see if Garrison, Oweh, Chandler, Perry and Noah all return. I sure hope they do, but am hesitant to "assume" they will. The season needs to play itself out.

Now ... to your question, I would much prefer the portal vets and only a sprinkling (however few that might be) of unproven high school phenoms. My reasoning is simply the predictability: offensively, defensively, maturity, focus, attitude, heart, hunger, effort, etc ..., as opposed to all the unknowns that high school phenoms bring with them. Of course, with that approach, there will be intense pressure to rely on what is available in the portal and it also puts more pressure on recruiting high schoolers before portal candidates are even known or available. Accordingly, roster additions will necessarily have to be a mix of returners, portal transfers and freshmen. With NIL$$$ and the Kentucky brand, CMP's chances for success should be better than most schools, it seems to me ... but I'm not even sure of that. It all depends on what particular players are looking for ...

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This^. Also , bringing in 5stars can make a program less attractive to portal players that may just have 1 year and don’t want to have that kind of competition at their position.

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He seems to find the open receivers better and gets rid of the ball quicker than BV. He also runs the option pretty well as he did a couple times yesterday. He might not fare as well against better defenses, but I’d give him the reins and prepare for next year.

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Wagner is shooting over 40 percent from 3. I don’t care what the stats say.