Very Real Scenario Regarding Sumrall (Bad)

[Warf2012]

It won’t surprise me at all if Stoops stays another year just because he has no other options and doesn’t have anything else to do. Meanwhile a bigger school hires Sumrall and UK will have missed its chance.

Personally, Id love IU’s Cignetti but he just got an extension that doubled his pay so that’s probably out the window. But he would seems to be a lock to turn your program into a title contender based on what he’s done everywhere he goes. Sumrall would be my close second choice though. I can only imagine how pissed BBN would be if Jon gets hired somewhere else because Stoops doesn’t leave.

 

[BlueBallz]

I’d say that’s a very real scenario that will probably happen. Stoops isn’t going anywhere as much as some think he will. I can definitely see Sumrall moving to a higher level program after this year.

 

[truebluewildcat]

The only options CMS has at this point are walking away or maybe a G5 gig if he still has any desire to coach. Maybe DC/AHC type of role at another P5 if he's got the itch but just wasn't to deal with all the other shit.

He's not getting hired away by P5 anymore.

Summerall most likely will be a leading candidate for a lot of good to even great jobs this offseason.

 

[catsfan325]

What is the job Sumrall is expected to take? Florida isn't coming open and I'm not sure about Auburn yet. Asking because I just don't know.

Hopefully he's content to stay at Tulane and not leave after only 1 season and know that the UK job is his in the very near future.

And full disclosure: I wanted Stoops to get the A&M job.

 

[Coach Marrow]

I think it would work out if it took 1 more year but not indefinitely.

 

[LowerLevelSeatA]

lol..our luck that is exactly what will happen. Sumrall gets big time job somewhere else while stoops stays one more year, then call it quits and we are stuck.

 

[jeffky]

lol..our luck that is exactly what will happen. Sumrall gets big time job somewhere else while stoops stays one more year, then call it quits and we are stuck.

With barnhart at the helm you can bet on it

 

[Edgarman]

It won’t surprise me at all if Stoops stays another year just because he has no other options and doesn’t have anything else to do. Meanwhile a bigger school hires Sumrall and UK will have missed its chance.

Personally, Id love IU’s Cignetti but he just got an extension that doubled his pay so that’s probably out the window. But he would seems to be a lock to turn your program into a title contender based on what he’s done everywhere he goes. Sumrall would be my close second choice though. I can only imagine how pissed BBN would be if Jon gets hired somewhere else because Stoops doesn’t leave.

Do we, UK AD, know if Sumrall would actually want or take Head Coach at UK. I know WE would like to have him but does he want to coach here or would he rather take other jobs? We all would like to date Miss America but would she date us. That is the Sumrall question.

 

[UKBrassowTipIN]

It won’t surprise me at all if Stoops stays another year just because he has no other options and doesn’t have anything else to do. Meanwhile a bigger school hires Sumrall and UK will have missed its chance.

Personally, Id love IU’s Cignetti but he just got an extension that doubled his pay so that’s probably out the window. But he would seems to be a lock to turn your program into a title contender based on what he’s done everywhere he goes. Sumrall would be my close second choice though. I can only imagine how pissed BBN would be if Jon gets hired somewhere else because Stoops doesn’t leave.

Why would cignetti leave iu to come to UK? Easier conference to make the playoffs and UK isn't exactly that much of a step up.

 

[seccats04]

What is the job Sumrall is expected to take? Florida isn't coming open and I'm not sure about Auburn yet. Asking because I just don't know.

Hopefully he's content to stay at Tulane and not leave after only 1 season and know that the UK job is his in the very near future.

And full disclosure: I wanted Stoops to get the A&M job.

Arkansas?

We may luck out and Sumrall not get a P4 job after this year because there don't appear to be many high profile openings. I could see Auburn opening but that would be 3 coaches in 4 years and that is not a recipe for winning.

 

[UKWildcats1987]

Why would cignetti leave iu to come to UK? Easier conference to make the playoffs and UK isn't exactly that much of a step up.

Yeah, playing a group of 5 level schedule. That won't be the case in the sec. He would be crazy to leave IU for UK.

 

[trueblujr2]

It won’t surprise me at all if Stoops stays another year just because he has no other options and doesn’t have anything else to do. Meanwhile a bigger school hires Sumrall and UK will have missed its chance.

Personally, Id love IU’s Cignetti but he just got an extension that doubled his pay so that’s probably out the window. But he would seems to be a lock to turn your program into a title contender based on what he’s done everywhere he goes. Sumrall would be my close second choice though. I can only imagine how pissed BBN would be if Jon gets hired somewhere else because Stoops doesn’t leave.

Why would Cignetti even consider a lateral move like that in the first place? He’s 64. IU in the Big 10 isn’t much different than us in the SEC and they are a power conference that’s actually better than the SEC so far this year. Cignetti is not realistic. If he leaves IU it will be for a traditional power. Michigan, Penn St., Auburn, Florida, etc. Not Kentucky.

 

[trueblujr2]

The only options CMS has at this point are walking away or maybe a G5 gig if he still has any desire to coach. Maybe DC/AHC type of role at another P5 if he's got the itch but just wasn't to deal with all the other shit.

He's not getting hired away by P5 anymore.

Summerall most likely will be a leading candidate for a lot of good to even great jobs this offseason.

I think Stoops could pull a Calipari and make a move to another P5 program, but it would be more of a lateral move type situation with a pay cut. I know people will say he’s stupid for that and he won’t leave his fat payday. Cal did it, Tubby Smith did it back in the day, it’s not unheard of when a coach knows he’s not wanted anymore, fans start revolting, ticket sales drop, NIL funds and resources dry up. I think there are a number of programs who would love to have Stoops and would gladly bring him in and give him more resources to succeed. Think of a program like Michigan St., Pitt if their coach leaves for greener pastures, obviously Iowa if Ferentz hangs it up. Kansas if their coach moves on, etc.

 

[TOMCATS1990]

Stoops ex wife and Kids live in I believe Colorado around Denver seems I read it somewhere. Deion is gone after the season. Colorado maybe would go after Stoops he be close to his kids.

 

[The-Hack]

Do we, UK AD, know if Sumrall would actually want or take Head Coach at UK.

Most former players who go into Coaching dream of a return to their alma mater.
I have not spoken to Jon Sumrall since he left for Troy, but he was happy his three years in Lexington, and proud of having once led UK in tackles.

Even when not at UK, he was close with John Schlarman and Neal Brown, having Coached with them.

Jon is from Northern Alabama, and knows the mantra of Bear Bryant: “When Mama calls, you pick up the phone.”

 

[El Gato Calvo]

Gonna be Hagen/Schnellenberger/Claiborne all over again.

 

[JrandoUK]

The only options CMS has at this point are walking away or maybe a G5 gig if he still has any desire to coach. Maybe DC/AHC type of role at another P5 if he's got the itch but just wasn't to deal with all the other shit.

He's not getting hired away by P5 anymore.

Summerall most likely will be a leading candidate for a lot of good to even great jobs this offseason.

I wish Stoops would take a position within the Athletic Dept for FB. Fundraising, NIL, Consultant or something like that.

 

[gobigblue812]

I wish Stoops would take a position within the Athletic Dept for FB. Fundraising, NIL, Consultant or something like that.

He hates that part of the job.

 

[UKSouthpaw]

I wish Stoops would take a position within the Athletic Dept for FB. Fundraising, NIL, Consultant or something like that.

I really don't even care if he's good at it...just clear out to bring in JS. 😂

 

[gobigblue812]

Do we, UK AD, know if Sumrall would actually want or take Head Coach at UK. I know WE would like to have him but does he want to coach here or would he rather take other jobs? We all would like to date Miss America but would she date us. That is the Sumrall question.

Yes, he would come back.

 

[WildcatofNati2]

Arkansas?

We may luck out and Sumrall not get a P4 job after this year because there don't appear to be many high profile openings. I could see Auburn opening but that would be 3 coaches in 4 years and that is not a recipe for winning.

You never know for sure, though. NFL could poach a high profile guy. Who would have guessed Oklahoma and Notre Dame would have opened at end of '21?

 

[WildcatofNati2]

Stoops ex wife and Kids live in I believe Colorado around Denver seems I read it somewhere. Deion is gone after the season. Colorado maybe would go after Stoops he be close to his kids.

Colorado would be wiser to target some top coordinator. Or, Sumrall.

 

[bigblueinsanity]

Auburn is the only threat and im not sure theyd make the move just yet. Jmo

 

[permdaddy]

Colorado would be wiser to target some top coordinator. Or, Sumrall.

Imagine hiring Stoops after Prime. Lambo to Flintstone, talk about sucking the air out of a program.

 

[cmallory4121]

It won’t surprise me at all if Stoops stays another year just because he has no other options and doesn’t have anything else to do. Meanwhile a bigger school hires Sumrall and UK will have missed its chance.

Personally, Id love IU’s Cignetti but he just got an extension that doubled his pay so that’s probably out the window. But he would seems to be a lock to turn your program into a title contender based on what he’s done everywhere he goes. Sumrall would be my close second choice though. I can only imagine how pissed BBN would be if Jon gets hired somewhere else because Stoops doesn’t leave.

If he wants to be at UK, then he’ll wait for the opportunity

 

[mrschwump]

Talk that Lanning at Oregon will be drawing NFL attention. Oklahoma, UNC, LSU, USC could be coming open. Not saying Sumrall would be considered, just saying those schools could pop open. Sumrall at LSU, however, would be intriguing. But I don't think he moves anywhere after only one year.

 

[TOMCATS1990]

You gotta have a Coach who is very good at multitasking and delegating to others because College Football especially now with NIL is too much for one person. Stoops can walk and chew bubblegum at the same time

 

[K_TIME]

Stoops ex wife and Kids live in I believe Colorado around Denver seems I read it somewhere. Deion is gone after the season. Colorado maybe would go after Stoops he be close to his kids.

Lord....where do you come up with this

 

[rick64]

Talk that Lanning at Oregon will be drawing NFL attention. Oklahoma, UNC, LSU, USC could be coming open. Not saying Sumrall would be considered, just saying those schools could pop open. Sumrall at LSU, however, would be intriguing. But I don't think he moves anywhere after only one year.

LSU might already be tired of Kelly and his fake southern accent.

 

[TOMCATS1990]

Lord....where do you come up with this

Hope and a prayer

 

[truebluewildcat]

I wish Stoops would take a position within the Athletic Dept for FB. Fundraising, NIL, Consultant or something like that.

Yeah I thought that was the route Cal should’ve taken not to long after his peak before the slide and early round upsets started. Become a figure head, run the combines, set up the ex player tournaments, etc…maybe go work with USA basketball so we have direct line like Duke.

That’s not a terrible idea. Like another poster said though, I think that’s what is wearing coaches out. That’s what they don’t want to do anymore.

I do think that is inevitably a position that P2 programs are going to have to look into now.

Essentially a GM/President role to handle all the extra shit. I mean pro coaches coach. A few have some input into roster and finances, but most don’t.

Now that P2 is basically professional and there’s payroll, contracts, etc to manage, athletic departments are going to have to set up a front office.

Can’t keep piling on all the responsibilities onto the coach.

Also, I would argue that because players are getting money that there really shouldn’t be as much recruiting anymore. Pros don’t recruit. Cats show up and try out.

That’s especially the case now that rosters are getting cut.

Now that it’s a paid gig with fewer available open positions, kids need to be coming to campus and trying to impress.