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Transgender Athletes, Opinion ?

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It puts the lotion on it's skin...
 
The guy halloweening as a woman on Jeopardy is getting patsies for contestants. Pretty sure they want that guy beating Ken Jennings.

Some of the people that they have thrown up there to beat him are idiots.
 
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Yes, Oscar can return next year as Oscarina and lead UK to the 2022-2023 Womens NCAA Basketball championship. I really like this idea....just pony up the NIL and sure Oscarina will be willing to do this to win a natty.
I think someone stole my idea because I’m watching UofL women vs NC St women and some of these chicks have to be men.
 
We should have trans leagues in sports where they just compete with each other. Their gender cannot be accurately identified and they are all doping for their gender transition, so competing against traditional genders is unfair no matter how you look at it. Let them have their own thing.

Also want to add this gives an opportunity for the woke crowd to cheer on their hero’s, while the rest of us can continue to watch normal sports.
While I agree with you, look at something like the WNBA which has been operating at a 10 million dollar deficit for years. The NBA covers their losses. This is the most popular women's professional team sport in our country and it wouldn't survive without the NBA covering them. You don't really think any trans leagues would survive do you? Gotta tell you I wouldn't watch one second of any trans league or sporting event. Not because I'm against trans people. I just flat out wouldn't care. Women make up just over 50% of the US population and LGBTQers are, who knows, anywhere from less than 1% to 3 or 4 %? You can give them own leagues or sporting categories, but they're gonna fail miserably.
 
What's insane is ignoring science because it doesn't fit with your worldview.

Then lets agree that unless you possess any of these abnormal combinations of xxy etc...chromosomes that you participate with/as the sex you were assigned at birth. XX or XY. Science does not care how you feel.

Oh, and do you have any or even the slightest evidence that a single one of the trans athletes out there are a member of the classifications you laid out earlier? Or are these just feelings rather than science?
 
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While I agree with you, look at something like the WNBA which has been operating at a 10 million dollar deficit for years. The NBA covers their losses. This is the most popular women's professional team sport in our country and it wouldn't survive without the NBA covering them. You don't really think any trans leagues would survive do you? Gotta tell you I wouldn't watch one second of any trans league or sporting event. Not because I'm against trans people. I just flat out wouldn't care. Women make up just over 50% of the US population and LGBTQers are, who knows, anywhere from less than 1% to 3 or 4 %? You can give them own leagues or sporting categories, but they're gonna fail miserably.

Of course I’m not serious, I’m well aware such a league wouldn’t make a dime in actual revenue. On the other hand allowing these people to compete with normal athletes just doesn’t work. So give them the local playground and they can have at it.
 
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God does not make mistakes , if you are born a male then you are a male and the same with women. It is a messed up world we are living in.
Then why are we born with useless things we don't need, like an appendix, for example??
 
Then lets agree that unless you possess any of these abnormal combinations of xxy etc...chromosomes that you participate with/as the sex you were assigned at birth. XX or XY. Science does not care how you feel.

Oh, and do you have any or even the slightest evidence that a single one of the trans athletes out there are a member of the classifications you laid out earlier? Or are these just feelings rather than science?
You're arguing with me about something I never said. All I did was call into question the assumption that there are only 2 biological genders.
 
Then why are we born with useless things we don't need, like an appendix, for example??
This is top secret info from the Vatican, but your appendix is your get into heaven free card. You die with your appendix, you're golden. Not to brag but I still have mine. But are you right with Jesus, and your GI doctor?
 
I have a friend that was born with both male and female genitalia - what is typically called intersex. He identifies as male but is pretty feminine. I always thought he was just gay, since he was dating another male when I first met him at a previous employer. Then he told me he was intersex, that was an interesting conversation to say the least.

I'll be sure to notify him that the amateur scientists of Cats Illustrated who got their doctorate degree in science by staying at a Holiday Inn Express have determined that is not true and he only has one set of genitalia.
 
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God does not make mistakes , if you are born a male then you are a male and the same with women. It is a messed up world we are living in.
God also gives us free will, medical professionals, therapists and his son Jesus who says not to judge others.
That said, I support trans people's decision on how to live their lives as they see fit but fall on the more conservative side when it comes to unfair advantages in sports.
Their rights end where mine begin, so to speak.
Fine if they chose to change sexes(has zero impact on me and I couldn't care less)....but there are consequences to that choice when it comes to sports specifically I think.
 
Agree. But I think some teachers are psuhing this too. They are using their position to push their beliefs and opinions instread of teaching math, english, history, etc.
Such a right wing talking point that is total Bullsh**.
Teachers don't have any interest "pushing" this whatsoever. They have so many other issues on their plates every day it's the last of their thoughts of things to "push".
The only thing 99 percent of teachers push every day is their own butt just to motivate themselves to work another day in a thankless, low paying, disrespected job that gets bashed 24-7 by society.
It's actually an issue that is a pain in the ass to deal with daily when kids start asking to be called a different name than who they are, asking to be called a different pronoun than they look, and having to be in the middle of the kid and parents who are fighting their own kid on this issue. Kid wants to be called Suzy and parents are telling teacher to call them Bob. Yeah...that's just what teachers love to deal with on top of everything else.
Our society needs to wake the F up and quit blaming teachers (and cops) for every problem in our dysfunctional azz country.
Try looking in your own homes and in the mirror for a change. That's where it all starts.
 
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Such a right wing talking point that is total Bullsh**.
Teachers don't have any interest "pushing" this whatsoever. They have so many other issues on their plates every day it's the last of their thoughts of things to "push".
The only thing 99 percent of teachers push every day is their own butt just to motivate themselves to work another day in a thankless, low paying, disrespected job that gets bashed 24-7 by society.
It's actually an issue that is a pain in the ass to deal with daily when kids start asking to be called a different name than who they are, asking to be called a different pronoun than they look, and having to be in the middle of the kid and parents who are fighting their own kid on this issue. Kid wants to be called Suzy and parents are telling teacher to call them Bob. Yeah...that's just what teachers love to deal with on top of everything else.
Our society needs to wake the F up and quit blaming teachers (and cops) for every problem in our dysfunctional azz country.
Try looking in your own homes and in the mirror for a change. That's where it all starts.
Don't waste my time....you're not honest and I am too tired tongiht to read more of your nonsense.
It's happening. It's been reported. 99% is such a bogus number. Goodnight.
 
Cowards. It's insanity that is taken over. People without courage or principals will always take the easy way out.

If you were born with a penis, you are a male. If you were born with a vagina, you are a female. No matter how many surgeries you have. That is what you are. That people say otherwise is where the problem lies. It's a form of mental illness that is being ignored because of politics.
^^^THIS. All day. Every day. Till the end of time.
Even science says it is impossible to change genders.
There is no such thing as "trans gender".
It's sad. People afflicted with gender dysphoria need help, not a normalization of their mental illness.
 
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Absolutely no reason to placate these nutjobs. They need therapy, not encouragement from society that they're not insane and totally normal. We don't encourage anorexic women to keep at it with their mental issues. Nor drug addicts. Yet with this issue it's all supposedly peaches and cream and rainbows. JFC society, grow a backbone again already. This stuff is disgusting.
 
Then why are we born with useless things we don't need, like an appendix, for example??
If you understand the evolution of the human then you understand current need vs. previous "earlier" need or use of it. You don't need TWO of many things we have but we have two for good reason. And we certainly in 10,000 years may not have an appendix or wisdom teeth etc.... Useless is your opinion and not based on science.
 
You're arguing with me about something I never said. All I did was call into question the assumption that there are only 2 biological genders.
There are people born with 6 fingers on one hand too. But not even the most woke leftist virtue signaling beta would argue that all glove manufacturers should manufacture all gloves with six fingers simply not to offend or discriminate against a malformity. Certainly there are "wolfmen" and two headed sheep and lots of other oddities.

You refuse to address the simple point. People are not given the CHOICE to have six fingers or two heads. If you are born with XY then you are scientifically MALE and should compete in athletics as a male. You have no evidence at all that a single XXY or some other combination is attempting to compete and that silly strawman has nothing to do with the CHOICE of becoming based on your FEELINGS a biological female and competing unfairly against biological females. Sports should not care about your feelings.
 
Such a right wing talking point that is total Bullsh**.
Teachers don't have any interest "pushing" this whatsoever. They have so many other issues on their plates every day it's the last of their thoughts of things to "push".
The only thing 99 percent of teachers push every day is their own butt just to motivate themselves to work another day in a thankless, low paying, disrespected job that gets bashed 24-7 by society.
It's actually an issue that is a pain in the ass to deal with daily when kids start asking to be called a different name than who they are, asking to be called a different pronoun than they look, and having to be in the middle of the kid and parents who are fighting their own kid on this issue. Kid wants to be called Suzy and parents are telling teacher to call them Bob. Yeah...that's just what teachers love to deal with on top of everything else.
Our society needs to wake the F up and quit blaming teachers (and cops) for every problem in our dysfunctional azz country.
Try looking in your own homes and in the mirror for a change. That's where it all starts.

I agree with much of what you said. Your blanket "Teachers" should say the vast majority of teachers. There are some teachers who in fact are pushing the agenda, mostly in the University setting but that trickles down to the k-12 eventually from the coastal elites to the cities and then it becomes "normal."

It has become impossible to avoid the spiral we have entered in order to make everyone happy. We saw in VA what happens eventually. You allow an XY who wears a dress to use a female bathroom so you dont get sued. He rapes a girl and rather than admit the policy is idiotic....they make it hush hush and transfer the kid to another school where he does it again. Teachers in a horrible situation because of elected woke officials who force this lunacy down their throats. Sometimes lunacy must settle to its most ridiculous level so it can be rejected.
 
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There are people born with 6 fingers on one hand too. But not even the most woke leftist virtue signaling beta would argue that all glove manufacturers should manufacture all gloves with six fingers simply not to offend or discriminate against a malformity. Certainly there are "wolfmen" and two headed sheep and lots of other oddities.

You refuse to address the simple point. People are not given the CHOICE to have six fingers or two heads. If you are born with XY then you are scientifically MALE and should compete in athletics as a male. You have no evidence at all that a single XXY or some other combination is attempting to compete and that silly strawman has nothing to do with the CHOICE of becoming based on your FEELINGS a biological female and competing unfairly against biological females. Sports should not care about your feelings.
And you're *STILL* arguing with me about something I never said.
 
Leftist ignorance never ceases to amaze me; careful where that pied piper is leading you.
 
You are still arguing with me about something I am not doing. Maybe you should look up the definition of the word argue.

You said "You refuse to address the simple point. People are not given the CHOICE . . ."

Why do I need to address it? Does it contradict anything I've said?

If this thread were some discussion of a math formula and somebody posted a comment saying the square root of 4 is 2, and then I responded that technically the square root of 4 is 2 or-2, now you're insisting I address some other unrelated point. WTF?
 
I have a friend that was born with both male and female genitalia - what is typically called intersex. He identifies as male but is pretty feminine. I always thought he was just gay, since he was dating another male when I first met him at a previous employer. Then he told me he was intersex, that was an interesting conversation to say the least.

I'll be sure to notify him that the amateur scientists of Cats Illustrated who got their doctorate degree in science by staying at a Holiday Inn Express have determined that is not true and he only has one set of genitalia.
What sex do his chromosomes say he is? I'm not trying to be harsh, but mother nature does make genetic mistakes during reproduction. No process is going to 100% mistake free. Just because someone was unfortunate enough to be born with both genitalia doesn't mean there are more than two sexes. Can we not agree that mother nature is trying to ensure the survival of its genetic material through precreation. Therefore, the intent is to produce genetic offspring that can, and will, procreate. So mother nature is trying to create male and female who are attracted to each other. That process isn't perfect, so mistakes will happen. Are those genetic mistakes really additional sexes? And let me be clear, I have no problem with people doing what makes them happy. It's a free country and people should be able to do what they feel is in their best interest and they should be treated with kindness and respect just like anyone else.
 
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You said "You refuse to address the simple point. People are not given the CHOICE . . ."

Why do I need to address it? Does it contradict anything I've said?

If this thread were some discussion of a math formula and somebody posted a comment saying the square root of 4 is 2, and then I responded that technically the square root of 4 is 2 or-2, now you're insisting I address some other unrelated point. WTF?
Why? Because I know you will not. When asked a very simple question and throwing out a farm field full of straw men, its clear that you refuse because it would make you look...not woke enough. Sometimes science gives us answers to things that buck the narrative. This issue is one of those. It is very simple to acknowledge through a cheek swabbing that one is either XY or XX. Certainly when arguing dishonestly, in a population of 8 or so billion folks on our planet you can erect a strawman pointing to genetic abnormalities as you did.

There are, as you may know, folk with 6 fingers who play football. And if the sixth finger gave the athlete an advantage then good for him. But you will not find anywhere that an athlete who has 5 fingers says....I feel like I should have born with a 6th finger. Certainly he could find a doc to sew on a 6th finger... But despite how the Penn swimmer FEELS, he has XY and has CHOSEN to compete against XX to his distinct advantage.

This will ruin women's athletics at some point when every record is held by a man wearing a bikini. Its already ruined Jeopardy's record for highest winning XX. In reality still all XY. Men just make better women than actual women do.
 
Why? Because I know you will not. When asked a very simple question and throwing out a farm field full of straw men, its clear that you refuse because it would make you look...not woke enough. Sometimes science gives us answers to things that buck the narrative. This issue is one of those. It is very simple to acknowledge through a cheek swabbing that one is either XY or XX. Certainly when arguing dishonestly, in a population of 8 or so billion folks on our planet you can erect a strawman pointing to genetic abnormalities as you did.

There are, as you may know, folk with 6 fingers who play football. And if the sixth finger gave the athlete an advantage then good for him. But you will not find anywhere that an athlete who has 5 fingers says....I feel like I should have born with a 6th finger. Certainly he could find a doc to sew on a 6th finger... But despite how the Penn swimmer FEELS, he has XY and has CHOSEN to compete against XX to his distinct advantage.

This will ruin women's athletics at some point when every record is held by a man wearing a bikini. Its already ruined Jeopardy's record for highest winning XX. In reality still all XY. Men just make better women than actual women do.

Please quote what I said in this thread that's a strawman.
 
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