The Ukraine war. (Yes, we'll mind our manners)
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We briefly entertained giving A-10s to the UAF but I guess the idea was shot down by DOD because of concerns of vulnerability to Russian air defenses.
One would think it would also be good to know whether these pilots will receive the same logistical and intelligence support they’d get from our own military.
Yes! That’s got to smart in the pro-Putin crowd. International criminal is his new label.
Arrest warrant issued for Putin over alleged war crimes - BBC News
The Russian president is wanted by the ICC for alleged war crimes during his Ukraine invasion.
www.bbc.com
Ukraine already has been since the start of the war. We're giving them full intel on what Russia is doing an also tactically advising them.
I wonder how many recruits with this tactic.
us.yahoo.com
"Don't whack off, go work for PMC Wagner," an advert on Pornhub said, according to the report.
Russia's Wagner army is recruiting fighters on Pornhub in a desperate attempt to strengthen troops, report says
The Wagner Group has faced problems with recruitment after they sent thousands of their fighters to die in Ukraine.
"Don't whack off, go work for PMC Wagner," an advert on Pornhub said, according to the report.
Gotta love UKR recycling.
Heh.
Two nights before, the 28th Brigade was attacked by Russian infantry and tanks. In a timbered gun position below ground, the cold rain drips through the roof onto the dirt floor, and there, peering out into the bare landscape, is a Maxim belt-fed machine gun with stout iron wheels.
"It only works when there is a massive attack going on…then it really works," says Borys. "So we use it every week".
Heh.
Two nights before, the 28th Brigade was attacked by Russian infantry and tanks. In a timbered gun position below ground, the cold rain drips through the roof onto the dirt floor, and there, peering out into the bare landscape, is a Maxim belt-fed machine gun with stout iron wheels.
"It only works when there is a massive attack going on…then it really works," says Borys. "So we use it every week".
Interesting. By this, Putin apparently doesn't have a fighting force shortage.I wonder how many recruits with this tactic.
Russia's Wagner army is recruiting fighters on Pornhub in a desperate attempt to strengthen troops, report says
The Wagner Group has faced problems with recruitment after they sent thousands of their fighters to die in Ukraine.
"Don't whack off, go work for PMC Wagner," an advert on Pornhub said, according to the report.
Germans think Nord Stream was sabotaged by a pro-Ukraine group that rented a yacht at Rostock, Gr, and sailed it mysteriously to the pipeline after picking up explosives & divers along the way. Been to Rostock which we trained from Berlin & picked up a Baltic cruise ship there. Nice place.
www.wsj.com
Who Blew Up Nord Stream? Investigators Focus on Six Mysterious Passengers on a Yacht
A boat rented in Germany sailed close to the spots in the Baltic Sea where explosions sabotaged the gas pipeline from Russia.
www.wsj.com
So NATO members Poland & Slovakia think Ukraine is important enough to save to send their MIG fighter jets there. Plus Estonia has provided the most Ukraine aid per GDP size. Plus Sweden & Finland want to join NATO.
So should the U.S. be supportive of their fellow NATO members, OR, should we say to hell with Ukraine & breakup the NATO alliance?
So should the U.S. be supportive of their fellow NATO members, OR, should we say to hell with Ukraine & breakup the NATO alliance?
Do what? How and why do.you come up with this stuff?
We run NATO. We tell Ukraine to pound sand, and NATO isn't going to say or do shit about it.
You think if we stop supporting Ukraine NATO is going to fold? Kick us out?
Hahahahahah
OK, sure Russia, with these additional provisos.
1) Ukraine's borders return to status quo antebellum (2014).
2) Russia pays reparations to Ukraine. There's already $550 billion (corrected per Catemus' post below) of RusGov assets frozen, so that's the starting point.
3) Immediate return of all kidnapped Ukrainians.
4) Putin and any other Russian accused of war crimes is handed over to international authorities.
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We’re not going to stop supporting Ukraine so it’s a moot point.
The US has frozen $300 billion of Russian assets. Europe has frozen another $250 billion. That’s more than half a trillion dollars. And the water carriers still think we’re giving too much to Ukraine.
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What's the point of NATO if we don't all agree on action or not? They won't kick us out but will go on w/o us - Putin has them scared sh!tless - so might as well end our involvement. What other use would there be?
The US has frozen $300 billion of Russian assets. Europe has frozen another $250 billion. That’s more than half a trillion dollars. And the water carriers still think we’re giving too much to Ukraine.
Russia's economy holds up, but growing challenges test Putin
Western sanctions have hit Russian banks, wealthy individuals and technology imports. Crowds might have thinned at some Moscow malls, but not drastically. “Economically, nothing has changed,” said Vladimir Zharov, 53, who works in television.
Dude. Why are you ALWAYS 100% or nothing?
Do you think NATO countries agree 100% lockstep about everything?
There is a reason you're mostly mocked in every thread. It ain't because everyone else has horrible takes, over and over again.
This reason is I'm not lockstep with the cult. Same people give same "likes" to each other. You'd think there would be some independent thinking somewhere, but no.
Whats your point here? The article is pretty clear that the Russian economy is stagnating. They can't afford to build their modern weapons. They are basically dumping oil to Asia at steep discounts. The economic problems are made even worse by the assets frozen all around the world that will eventually be used to rebuild Ukraine.
Russia's economy holds up, but growing challenges test Putin
Western sanctions have hit Russian banks, wealthy individuals and technology imports. Crowds might have thinned at some Moscow malls, but not drastically. “Economically, nothing has changed,” said Vladimir Zharov, 53, who works in television.news.yahoo.com
Was that what you were getting at?
Ukrainian Intelligence on ICC decision says that Kremlin already looking for successor to Putin
Andrii Yusov, Spokesman for Ukraine's Defence Intelligence, has said that the Kremlin is looking for a successor to the Russian President after the decision of the International Criminal Court to arrest Russian dictator Vladimir Putin.
Source: Yusov on the air during the national joint 24/7 newscast
Details: Yusov noted that on 17 March, Russian propagandists did not discuss The Hague on their TV shows [although they did comment on it on social media - ed.], because debating this would be "a strange and disturbing ‘wake-up call’" for the population of the Russian Federation.
Quote from Yusov: "Putin's circle is narrowing, he is becoming more and more toxic both to the outside world and inside the country.
Andrii Yusov, Spokesman for Ukraine's Defence Intelligence, has said that the Kremlin is looking for a successor to the Russian President after the decision of the International Criminal Court to arrest Russian dictator Vladimir Putin.
Source: Yusov on the air during the national joint 24/7 newscast
Details: Yusov noted that on 17 March, Russian propagandists did not discuss The Hague on their TV shows [although they did comment on it on social media - ed.], because debating this would be "a strange and disturbing ‘wake-up call’" for the population of the Russian Federation.
Quote from Yusov: "Putin's circle is narrowing, he is becoming more and more toxic both to the outside world and inside the country.
The best resolution for Russia is to use Putin as a scapegoat, offer up General Aleksandr Dvornikov and/or Sergey Vladimirovich Surovikin for war crimes, spurn China, and seek a future with the West.
That is a smart clear doable way out of the mess they are in and it makes the most sense for what people with money in Russia would want to happen.
That is a smart clear doable way out of the mess they are in and it makes the most sense for what people with money in Russia would want to happen.
What is this thread about? Remind me. Maybe I posted something inappropriate?
Edit: Catmus claims to be a moderate on this issue. That is not believable. The world has sanctioned Russia and for good reason. Their economy may be stagnating, but what economy is not? The reported fact is that the sanctions have not hurt Russia as much as people had hoped and probably because the world cheats. But, are the facts here not permitted because people are too entrenched?
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Which is indeed the veritable purpose of the war, namely regime change, as I was explaining in vain to this thread a year ago.
Yes, they are emotionally invested.
NATO preparing to pressure Russia?
www.politico.eu
The first tier — which may consist of about 100,000 soldiers prepared to move within 10 days — could be drawn from Poland, Norway and the Baltic states (Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania), said Heinrich Brauß, a former NATO assistant secretary general for defense policy and force planning. It may also include multinational battlegroups the alliance has already set up in the eastern flank....
Stay tuned.
NATO is racing to arm its Russian borders. Can it find the weapons?
Allies are worrying about dwindling war chests just as NATO seeks commitments for new stockpiles and troops along the eastern flank.
www.politico.eu
The first tier — which may consist of about 100,000 soldiers prepared to move within 10 days — could be drawn from Poland, Norway and the Baltic states (Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania), said Heinrich Brauß, a former NATO assistant secretary general for defense policy and force planning. It may also include multinational battlegroups the alliance has already set up in the eastern flank....
Stay tuned.
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The US has provided more aid to Ukraine than the rest of Europe combined. So I would say that we are doing more than our fare share for NATO as usual. Also Poland's MIG's are relics and are set to be replaced with new US F-35 fighters within the next year. The Pols also have F-16's but they are not sending those.
Poland inks $4.6 billion contract for F-35 fighter jets
Poles expect a technological leap as a result of the purchase, the country's defense minister said.
www.defensenews.com
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You're absolutely right, the purpose of the war was regime change. In Kiev, by Russian force of arms. Glad you've come around, SDC. Thanks to their own fortitude and international assistance, Ukraine has been able to stop Russia's naked aggression.
Hopefully you also support the peace proposal I outlined above. Cheers, and go Cats!
Not my point. You were inferring Russia was much better off than it is. Yes, Asia has helped them a great amount but it has long been known that Russia needs oil to be 70+ and ut isn't, especially for them. Internally are they ok, i guess, but who cares. The sanctions were meant to damage their war chest, which they have, and harm the oligarchy, which they have.
My apologies. I thought you posted a preachy post about how tough issues require more that extreme positions for people who think. Maybe that was not you. Clearly, you are not open-minded about this issue.Me, a moderate on this issue?
What silly game are you playing, Caveman?
Dude, I linked an article, one of many reporting the same thing. Take off your partisan hat.
I don’t regard this as a tough issue at all. A child-stealing dictator should be brought down by any means necessary. And as long as the Russian people allow him to rule them then they’re complicit in the horror happening in Ukraine.
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