The Ukraine war. (Yes, we'll mind our manners)

[Catemus]

Tell ChatGPT I’m a shameless profiteer that owns a large stake in a U.S. based defense contractor, I have a good friend who’s made a ton of money funneling US taxpayer cash through Ukraine, all i care about is profit and there’s a large contingent of incredibly gullible people who will do whatever I tell them to do.

See if the story is any different than what is happening now.

That’s a statement that doesn’t require an answer. What question do you want it to answer? Keep in mind that it won’t take sides in any conflict, discussion or argument, won’t give opinions of its own and absolutely will not cater to any philosophical view. That’s not what it does.

It, in effect, can find, read (but won’t analyze) and give back to you information about any subject. You have to know how to ask it, however. If it sees that you want a slanted view, it will clam up and state that it won’t do that. I know because I’ve tried to get it to say what I want it to say. LOL

Here’s a link to its site: https://openai.com/
It’s very easy to open an account, and it’s free to us laymen. $42/month for the advanced commercial version.

 

[Caveman Catfan]

🤔

2.313 Trillion

Took like 2 seconds to search. Also, unclear if that's benchmarked to a certain year's USD value or if it's just a sum of annual outlays for each year. In today's dollars, that figure would be a good bit higher (LGB).

I did look. Billions.

Again, the discussion WAS NOT about the USA/Afghan war. 🙄

 

[vhcat70]

I did look. Billions.

Again, the discussion WAS NOT about the USA/Afghan war. 🙄

You wrote: "We did not support the Afghans like we are Ukraine". I responded to that. Yes, that support was billions, 2,313 billions. Also known as $2.3T.

Besides, I say 110,000 US troops at one time in Afghanistan is not at all like our support in Ukraine.

 

[bcw1029]

Melitopol will be the goal of the spring offensive. Won’t be easy. Major logistical hub for the south and close proximity to Crimea.

 

[entropy13]

I did look. Billions.

Again, the discussion WAS NOT about the USA/Afghan war. 🙄

I see that now having looked back through the reply history. I'm a victim of secondhand confusion via @vhcat70 and demand reparations from you both. You are guilty by association because you could've resolved this very easily by telling him that you were talking about the USA's assistance to the Mujahideen.

A pox on both your houses. 😝

 

[The-Hack]

Besides, I say 110,000 US troops at one time in Afghanistan is not at all like our support in Ukraine.

Caveman was obvioudlsly talking about the War in Afganistan from 1979 until approximately 1990, and the billions we spent arming the indigenous population to fight the Soviets.

Our more recent and lengthier efforts there resulted in trillions of dollars of expenditure wasted trying to civilize the most traditional and backward nation on earth, who are also Muslim.

 

[The-Hack]

Funny Man Lavrov, also the Russian Foreign Minister, Takes His Shtick On the Road, and Kills at G20!!



Says Lavrov,

“A Rabbi, a Priest, a Baptist Minister and 250,000 Russian Troops walk into a Ukrainian Bar. . . .”

 

[LOL_Man]

I hope we don't erupt in ChatGPT or whatever it is AI wars all over the board as I don't know what the point in that is? Like having people play chess simulators against each other.

 

[Caveman Catfan]

You wrote: "We did not support the Afghans like we are Ukraine". I responded to that. Yes, that support was billions, 2,313 billions. Also known as $2.3T.

Besides, I say 110,000 US troops at one time in Afghanistan is not at all like our support in Ukraine.

That is a hot confusing mess VH. If you think we supported the Afghans in their war against Russia to the same extent we are supporting and involved with Ukraine more power to you. If our future relationship with Ukraine is like that of Afghanistan after Russia removed its forces …

 

[Caveman Catfan]

Caveman was obvioudlsly talking about the War in Afganistan from 1979 until approximately 1990, and the billions we spent arming the indigenous population to fight the Soviets.

Our more recent and lengthier efforts there resulted in trillions of dollars of expenditure wasted trying to civilize the most traditional and backward nation on earth, who are also Muslim.

It’s another thread, but while we were there, in our more recent efforts, we served an oppressed people and helped to free some from that oppression. One could contend that the more recent and lengthier efforts were far more successful than our prior support and that the prior helped lead to the more recent. Of course, we tired of those more recent efforts and abruptly and corruptly exited. We will learn in the future the impact of that debacle. Zelensky must know that the American public won’t throw trillions at the current war without a similar exhaustion. Meanwhile, people not us die in war and people not us suffer, as a result. And, those who will argue that a lengthy war served the US will remember.

 

[Marleydogg]

That’s a statement that doesn’t require an answer. What question do you want it to answer? Keep in mind that it won’t take sides in any conflict, discussion or argument, won’t give opinions of its own and absolutely will not cater to any philosophical view. That’s not what it does.

It, in effect, can find, read (but won’t analyze) and give back to you information about any subject. You have to know how to ask it, however. If it sees that you want a slanted view, it will clam up and state that it won’t do that. I know because I’ve tried to get it to say what I want it to say. LOL

Here’s a link to its site: https://openai.com/
It’s very easy to open an account, and it’s free to us laymen. $42/month for the advanced commercial version.

Ask it to describe how Donald Trump is a good president, then do the same with Biden.

Hint: it's already been done, and you won't like what it produces. (Maybe you will).

Like I said, clown world.

 

[Catemus]

Ask it to describe how Donald Trump is a good president, then do the same with Biden.

Hint: it's already been done, and you won't like what it produces. (Maybe you will).

Like I said, clown world.

Describe how Donald Trump was a good president.

As an AI language model, my role is to provide information in an unbiased and factual manner. While some individuals may view Donald Trump's presidency positively, others may have a more critical view. Here are some accomplishments that have been attributed to his administration:

1. The Tax Cuts and Jobs Act: The Tax Cuts and Jobs Act, signed into law by President Trump in 2017, reduced corporate and individual income taxes and helped to stimulate economic growth.
2. Criminal justice reform: President Trump signed the First Step Act in 2018, which aimed to reduce federal prison sentences for certain nonviolent offenses and provide more opportunities for rehabilitation.
3. Negotiating trade deals: President Trump renegotiated trade deals with Canada, Mexico, and South Korea, and also negotiated a new trade deal with China.
4. Middle East peace deals: President Trump helped to broker peace deals between Israel and several Arab countries, including the United Arab Emirates, Bahrain, and Sudan.
5. Space exploration: The Trump administration supported NASA's efforts to return to the moon and eventually send astronauts to Mars.

It is important to note that this is not an exhaustive list, and there are certainly other accomplishments that some people may attribute to President Trump's time in office. At the same time, it is also important to acknowledge that some individuals may have a more critical view of his presidency, and that is a matter of personal opinion.

Describe how Joe Biden is a good president.

As an AI language model, my role is to provide information in an unbiased and factual manner. Here are some accomplishments that have been attributed to President Joe Biden's administration:

1. COVID-19 response: President Biden has made combating the COVID-19 pandemic a top priority of his administration. He has overseen the distribution of vaccines, expanded testing and treatment options, and implemented mask mandates and other measures to slow the spread of the virus.
2. Infrastructure plan: President Biden has proposed a $1.9 trillion infrastructure plan that would invest in transportation, broadband, and clean energy. The plan is designed to create jobs, improve the economy, and address climate change.
3. Environmental policy: President Biden has taken steps to rejoin the Paris climate agreement, halt new oil and gas leases on federal land, and invest in clean energy. He has also announced a goal of net-zero greenhouse gas emissions by 2050.
4. Social policies: President Biden has signed executive orders to promote racial equity, address discrimination against Asian Americans and Pacific Islanders, and support the LGBTQ+ community. He has also proposed legislation to expand voting rights and protect women's reproductive health.
5. Foreign policy: President Biden has worked to rebuild relationships with allies and address global challenges such as climate change, nuclear proliferation, and human rights abuses. He has also taken a tough stance on Russia and China, imposing sanctions and other measures to address their aggressive behavior.

It is important to note that this is not an exhaustive list, and there may be other accomplishments that some people attribute to President Biden's time in office. At the same time, it is also important to acknowledge that some individuals may have a more critical view of his presidency, and that is a matter of personal opinion.

Again, it strives to take a middle-of-the-road, unbiased stance on subjects that are controversial, like all presidents. Anyone who gave you info showing its bias towards one or the other presidents was pulling your leg.

 

[Catemus]

I won’t use ChatGPT in any more of my posts in this thread. I agree with LOL_Man that it’s a rabbit hole that might distract from the discussion of the war.

However, I encourage everyone to get familiar with this AI and the others that are coming out in the near future. In just four months ChatGPT has changed the world of communication. The others about to enter the scene will only contribute to the upheaval in how we deal with each other. AI is our future.

 

[SDC888]

It's garbage in, garbage out.

Very apropos to what this thread is, incidentally, my little valiant laughy face emoji army of warmongers! 🤣
😂😘

 

[LOL_Man]

This thread is divided into people that understand history and those that don't.

 

[Catemus]

It's garbage in, garbage out.

Very apropos to what this thread is, incidentally, my little valiant laughy face emoji army of warmongers! 🤣
😂😘

And here’s a field of daisies for all of the new-age appeaseniks to frolic in while they’re awaiting instructions. 🌼

 

[Caveman Catfan]

Again, it strives to take a middle-of-the-road, unbiased stance on subjects that are controversial, like

War

 

[Catemus]

War

Of course. It won’t take sides.

 

[SDC888]

This thread is divided into people that understand history and those that don't.

No. It's divided by those who understand the world as it is today vs. those who don't.

 

[LOL_Man]

SDC hates history. Utterly useless to him. Lives as though he was the first man on earth. Everything is new in his mind like an Alzheimers patient.

 

[SDC888]

SDC hates history. Utterly useless to him. Lives as though he was the first man on earth. Everything is new in his mind like an Alzheimers patient.

 

[SDC888]

SDC hates history. Utterly useless to him. Lives as though he was the first man on earth. Everything is new in his mind like an Alzheimers patient.

So much apropos today, lol ma; it hurts!

 

[Catemus]

SDC hates history. Utterly useless to him. Lives as though he was the first man on earth. Everything is new in his mind like an Alzheimers patient.

“Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.” – George Santayana

 

[JumperJack]

This thread is divided into people that understand history and those that don't.

The division in this thread is among those who understand events as they are within historical scope, and those who want to react to those events through how they feel.

The world as it is versus the world as we wish it was.

 

[vhcat70]

^ That's nice.

 

[The-Hack]

Strange.

@Warrior Poet31 has completely disappeared since January 1, 2023, having first posted/registered on December 30, 2021.

I seriously suspect he was under a one year contract with the Kremlin, which expired on January 1st of this year.

I’ve never experienced a poster more dedicated to a single, non-sports subject, on any of these forums. 98% of his posts were in the old Ukraine thread, and I’m not sure I ever saw him post on a sports related forum.

At least for most of the antagonists, here, we have some interest in Kentucky Sports.

 

[The-Hack]

He's popped up a few times in this one. Not as active as before.

If I’m researching it right, he hasn’t posted since January 1, 2023, on the old thread?!?!?

 

[AustinTXCat]

Good morning, Ivan.

 

[vhcat70]

Seems U will have to give up Bakhmut soon. WSJ today says the Wagner Group slaughter has been immense, but that U has lost some of their best troops doing it. Both sides running out of bodies.

 

[entropy13]

If I’m researching it right, he hasn’t posted since January 1, 2023, on the old thread?!?!?

I had a brainfart and was thinking of a different poster, so yeah, you're probably right. Oddly enough, when I looked into his posting history a while back, I think he had some posts on the Iowa Hawkeye board?

 

[Caveman Catfan]

If you don’t agree with the stop-supporting Ukraine position of some on these threads, you’re deemed a Nazi or a Nazi sympathizer. If you don’t agree with the continue-financial-support of Ukraine position of some posters, you are enamored with Putin and probably a Rooo-ski, even by posters who declare themselves as moderates on complex issues. These are weak-minded and/or vindictive positions. Both funny and sad.

 

[Caveman Catfan]

New question:

Has the Ukraine/Russian war weakened the U.S. more or China? “Neither” and “equally” are acceptable answers. If you have an opinion, an explanation would be nice. Thanks.

 

[LOL_Man]

New question:

Has the Ukraine/Russian war weakened the U.S. more or China? “Neither” and “equally” are acceptable answers. If you have an opinion, an explanation would be nice. Thanks.

Funny you didn't include the obvious answer: it has hurt Russia more. Eh, comrade?

The Ukraine war has hurt China much more than the US. China is more isolated and they have squandered decades of hard work on their international reputation. An almost incalculable cost.

The United States is in the cat bird's seat. We are weakening Russia to the point of regime change as the quickest way for Russia to get out of their current quagmire is to kill Putin then blame him for everything, then backstab China and fall right into Western favor under a new government with a more pro Western policy as has every truly successful country on earth even China. The West equals success and prosperity and that case is unimpeachable.

That leaves China floundering, facing an inevitable population crash, isolated, and their dreams and designs on Taiwan crushed. A stronger NATO, Japan, South Korea, and a rapid escalation of US power into the East especially in the Philippines.

Ukraine was a trap Putin walked right into and as a bonus Xi hopped right into his lap. We win because we always do. Thankfully we have people much more bright than the rabble lapping after Putin along with Xi in the dwindling Trump camp. Naive little things... bless their hearts.

 

[Caveman Catfan]

Funny you didn't include the obvious answer: it has hurt Russia more. Eh, comrade?

The Ukraine war has hurt China much more than the US. China is more isolated and they have squandered decades of hard work on their international reputation. An almost incalculable cost.

The United States is in the cat bird's seat. We are weakening Russia to the point of regime change as the quickest way for Russia to get out of their current quagmire is to kill Putin then blame him for everything, then backstab China and fall right into Western favor under a new government with a more pro Western policy as has every truly successful country on earth even China. The West equals success and prosperity and that case is unimpeachable.

That leaves China floundering, facing an inevitable population crash, isolated, and their dreams and designs on Taiwan crushed. A stronger NATO, Japan, South Korea, and a rapid escalation of US power into the East especially in the Philippines.

Ukraine was a trap Putin walked right into and as a bonus Xi hopped right into his lap. We win because we always do. Thankfully we have people much more bright than the rabble lapping after Putin along with Xi in the dwindling Trump camp. Naive little things... bless their hearts.

Just saving these predictions for future review.

(I won’t respond to the Russia comment, as it was clearly an attempt at Nazi humor )

 

[Catemus]

New question:

Has the Ukraine/Russian war weakened the U.S. more or China? “Neither” and “equally” are acceptable answers. If you have an opinion, an explanation would be nice. Thanks.

What’s your opinion?

 

[Catemus]

If you don’t agree with the stop-supporting Ukraine position of some on these threads, you’re deemed a Nazi or a Nazi sympathizer. If you don’t agree with the continue-financial-support of Ukraine position of some posters, you are enamored with Putin and probably a Rooo-ski, even by posters who declare themselves as moderates on complex issues. These are weak-minded and/or vindictive positions. Both funny and sad.

If you don’t agree with the stop-supporting Ukraine position of some on these threads, you’re deemed a Nazi or a Nazi sympathizer.

I had to read that twice to make sure it said “stop-supporting Ukraine position.” Aren’t the supporters of Ukraine supposed to be the Nazis? Aren’t you appropriating a slur here?

 

[Catemus]

Good morning, Ivan.

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That’s going to put a dent in Wagner’s plans to encircle Bakhmut. It’s a generic bomb until it’s fitted with the Joint Direct Attack Munitions (JDAM) kit. That makes it a guided missile. The US has 430,000 of these in stock.

 

[Caveman Catfan]

What’s your opinion?

I don’t have one. It’s the reason I asked.

I have a fear that we are weaker via preparedness than we were before. I also wonder if China has been forced to reassess its Taiwan ambitions, but am not sure. I think on the world stage, however, China may be benefiting.

I laughed when @vhcat70 liked your inquiry. Good question Catemus!!!

 

[Caveman Catfan]

I had to read that twice to make sure it said “stop-supporting Ukraine position.” Aren’t the supporters of Ukraine supposed to be the Nazis? Aren’t you appropriating a slur here?

If you don’t agree with the stop-supporting Ukraine people, you must want to support Ukraine. As to your question, it makes no sense to me, but reads as defensive.

 

[Bill Cosby]

I don’t have one. It’s the reason I asked.

I have a fear that we are weaker via preparedness than we were before. I also wonder if China has been forced to reassess its Taiwan ambitions, but am not sure. I think on the world stage, however, China may be benefiting.

I laughed when @vhcat70 liked your inquiry. Good question Catemus!!!

China is benefiting from cheaper energy, a weakening dollar, embarrassingly incompetent US leadership.

China is not benefiting from a push to reshore U.S. manufacturing and the pendulum in Washington likely swinging back to a party in 2024 they may not own entirely top to bottom.

The US is benefiting from increased exports of natural gas following an act of ecoterrorism that severed Europe from Russia.

The US is not benefiting from ignoring the narco terror state invading it from the south while focusing on defending the borders of a worthless corrupt cesspool halfway around the globe.

All in all the only people actually benefiting from this stupid ass war are those with a direct financial interest in the conflict, or who need to distract their people from their corruption.