The Ukraine war. (Yes, we'll mind our manners)

[Catemus]

Then he has achieved victory, unless NATO troops enter the war. Ukraine alone is not dislodging him.

Ukraine is not alone. They’re getting economic and military help from 50+ countries; operatives from Belarus, Chechnya, Georgia and other former soviet states are creating havoc within Russia; and volunteers from all over the world are enlisted in Ukraine’s Foreign Legion fighting unit.

 

[Catemus]

False.

This approach in these threads of pretending you know someone by creating strawman arguments is why I laugh at these never ending threads.

Hope you geniuses figure it out.

Well, you certainly haven’t, Einstein.

 

[bcw1029]

Crimea has had drone attacks over the past week.

That’s not really the start of an “offensive”, but do believe one is coming later in the spring.

 

[JumperJack]

Ukraine is not alone. They’re getting economic and military help from 50+ countries; operatives from Belarus, Chechnya, Georgia and other former soviet states are creating havoc within Russia; and volunteers from all over the world are enlisted in Ukraine’s Foreign Legion fighting unit.

Come on man. Try to have a serious discussion. They’re not moving the Russians out without much more in the way military support. Chechnyans and Georgians ain’t enough.

 

[Bill Cosby]

Of course he would if he could but he doesn’t have a singular ability to launch nukes. I don’t think all Russian military officers are nutjobs like Putin. I’ve watched countless YouTube video interviews by Lviv Media with captured Russian soldiers.

To a man they came to Ukraine following orders but when given the ability to see both sides, they universally don’t want anything more to do with the war. They didn’t find any Nazis and saw the Ukrainian soldiers as mirrors of themselves.

I simply don’t think Putin’s order to launch nukes, of any kind, would be followed. In fact, I think those might be his last words.

That’s comforting. Putin is an evil dictator who was able to rise up to lead Russia and his survival is solely dependent on his nuclear arsenal, but he wasn’t smart enough to ensure he has loyalists in control of those weapons.

But hey, you saw some made for tv interviews with allegedly captured Russian soldiers that definitely isn’t just like all the other propaganda you warhawks eat up, so there’s probably people in control of the Russian nuclear arsenal that would refuse to ensure Russia and Putin went down swinging.

 

[The-Hack]

...as genocidal maniacs go.

Yes.

Other than the whole “genocidal, warmonger” angle, he an accomplished equestrian, cooks a bitchin’ borsht, and is rumored the be a hygienic freak.

 

[Catemus]

Come on man. Try to have a serious discussion. They’re not moving the Russians out without much more in the way military support. Chechnyans and Georgians ain’t enough.

It’s difficult to have a serious discussion with someone who has a one-track mind. You still think Putin is commanding a competent military.

90% of Russian troops amassed for war are now in Ukraine, yet they’re being slaughtered by the hundreds every day. They are poorly equipped and Putin is hoping the human wall he’s throwing at Ukraine’s trained and equipped soldiers will overwhelm them.

Some of the best western tanks are beginning to hit the frontlines and the effects are horrible for those poor Russian soldiers.

 

[The-Hack]

Come on man. Try to have a serious discussion. They’re not moving the Russians out without much more in the way military support. Chechnyans and Georgians ain’t enough.

They “moved the Russians out” of about 35 percent of what they had once controlled with about 40 percent of the total assistance they will have received by Spring, including at least 150 Western heavy tanks.

No one predicted the success of the Fall offensive, but it happened.

 

[Catemus]

That’s comforting. Putin is an evil dictator who was able to rise up to lead Russia and his survival is solely dependent on his nuclear arsenal, but he wasn’t smart enough to ensure he has loyalists in control of those weapons.

But hey, you saw some made for tv interviews with allegedly captured Russian soldiers that definitely isn’t just like all the other propaganda you warhawks eat up, so there’s probably people in control of the Russian nuclear arsenal that would refuse to ensure Russia and Putin went down swinging.

Hope you’ve got that 1950s era bomb shelter well supplied. You seem convinced that there’s going to be a nuclear holocaust so I hope you’re prepared. You can get 3rd degree burns from 50 miles away with some of those bombs so maybe you’d better stock a lot of salve and bandages.

Oh, btw, better buy some porn magazines cause the internet is going to disappear really fast.

 

[Caveman Catfan]

US spend $2.3T in/on Afghanistan. That's a T.

I think you are confused.

 

[Catemus]

I asked ChatGPT to share a story in this thread. Here’s what it composed:

Once upon a time, there was a little chicken named Chicken Little. One day, while she was walking in the woods, an acorn fell from a tree and hit her on the head. Chicken Little, who was a bit of a nervous type, immediately thought that the sky was falling.

Panicked, she ran to tell everyone she met that the sky was falling. She ran to Henny Penny, who was scratching in the yard, and told her the news. Henny Penny listened to Chicken Little and became worried too. Together, they decided to go tell the king.

On their way to the king's palace, they met Cocky Locky. Chicken Little and Henny Penny told him what had happened, and he decided to join them on their quest. They soon met Ducky Lucky, who also joined them.

As they continued on their way, they met more and more animals who were also concerned about the falling sky. The group of animals now included Goosey Loosey, Turkey Lurkey, and eventually, the sly Foxy Loxy.

Foxy Loxy suggested they all take a shortcut through his den. The other animals, not suspecting anything, followed him into his den. Once inside, Foxy Loxy revealed his true nature and began to eat the animals one by one.

However, in a stroke of luck, Foxy Loxy ate so many of the animals that he became too full to eat the remaining ones, and they were able to escape.

In the end, the animals realized their mistake in believing Chicken Little's initial fear and decided to think more carefully before reacting to situations in the future.

 

[Catemus]

And when I asked it for the moral of the story:

The moral of the story in the Chicken Little tale is to not jump to conclusions or spread baseless rumors without verifying the facts. Chicken Little, who believed that the sky was falling after an acorn fell on her head, panicked and spread the news to all the animals she encountered without first checking to see if her belief was true.

As a result, she created fear and chaos among the animals, causing them to behave irrationally and make hasty decisions. The story teaches us that it's important to think critically, seek information and evidence, and avoid spreading false information or rumors. It emphasizes the value of being cautious, level-headed, and rational in our actions and decisions.

 

[rqarnold]

Not to me, though. Putin didn't tell me to "stay home and stay safe". Putin didn't lock me down and cost me thousand of dollars in income. Putin didn't make me a wear a mask. Putin didn't make me take a vaccine to travel. Whatever he did in Russia was relatively benign compared to what happened here, but, whatever happened there is not my problem. Putin has never done a thing to me. Putin is not an American problem. You actually do know what the American problem is, specifically, the Left, yet align yourself with the Left to fight the Putin boogieman. Who has never done anything to you, either. You need to a hobby, or to go fight him yourself, if you feel so strongly, and, I realize that you have said that you are not personally physically able, which means that you should go do it another manner, perhaps through intelligence work, but fighting him on message boards is laughable. You can do better, if you really wanted to

You’re clearly ignorant as to the Covid precautions that were taken in Russia. Do you research anything before you start posting?

 

[Marleydogg]

You’re clearly ignorant as to the Covid precautions that were taken in Russia. Do you research anything before you start posting?

Do you pay your bets to Brady?

 

[WildcatofNati]

You’re clearly ignorant as to the Covid precautions that were taken in Russia. Do you research anything before you start posting?

Fuzz, you are not only Evil, but you are LAWFUL Evil, which is actually the worst form of evil.

The "Covid" restrictions in Russia were comparable to those in Red States in America. Utterly stupid, but quickly revoked. Russia was better than most American states, and better than most of Europe except for, obviously, Sweden.

 

[Bill Cosby]

And when I asked it for the moral of the story:

The moral of the story in the Chicken Little tale is to not jump to conclusions or spread baseless rumors without verifying the facts. Chicken Little, who believed that the sky was falling after an acorn fell on her head, panicked and spread the news to all the animals she encountered without first checking to see if her belief was true.

As a result, she created fear and chaos among the animals, causing them to behave irrationally and make hasty decisions. The story teaches us that it's important to think critically, seek information and evidence, and avoid spreading false information or rumors. It emphasizes the value of being cautious, level-headed, and rational in our actions and decisions.

Interesting. ChatGPT was pretty spot on. You guys are all riled up about Putin taking over all of Europe that you pushed the US to go into the foxhole with one of the most corrupt countries on the planet, while also arguing Russia is a paper tiger with an inept military that would never use its nuclear weapons. And conveniently every one of your illogical arguments lines up exactly with the positions that make people in Washington and Kyiv richer.

On the one hand it’s impressive ChatGPT put that together. But then again, it’s pretty obvious to everyone.

 

[AustinTXCat]

Staggering total losses, if true.

Putin’s war has lost Russia up to one million young men

Putin’s renewed invasion of Ukraine passed its first anniversary last month with little sign of ending. A further grim milestone will soon be reached. Since February 24 2022, Russia has lost almost one million young males to the war, through both inordinately high battlefield casualty rates, and from the hundreds of thousands of young Russians who have fled forced conscription into the Russian armed forces....

Unsustainable.

 

[RunninRichie]

Russians using old t-62s. They're losing t72s so fast they had to bring these rust buckets out.

 

[Catemus]

Interesting. ChatGPT was pretty spot on. You guys are all riled up about Putin taking over all of Europe that you pushed the US to go into the foxhole with one of the most corrupt countries on the planet, while also arguing Russia is a paper tiger with an inept military that would never use its nuclear weapons. And conveniently every one of your illogical arguments lines up exactly with the positions that make people in Washington and Kyiv richer.

On the one hand it’s impressive ChatGPT put that together. But then again, it’s pretty obvious to everyone.

As usual you missed the point. LOL

Foxy Loxy gonna eat you all up.

 

[Catemus]

Russians using old t-62s. They're losing t72s so fast they had to bring these rust buckets out.

And now they’re having to put those old derelicts up against Leopards and Abrams. Bloodbath.

 

[bcw1029]

And now they’re having to put those old derelicts up against Leopards and Abrams. Bloodbath.

Wait till they bring out the mighty T-34s, it’s game over for UAF and NATO.

 

[AustinTXCat]

And now they’re having to put those old derelicts up against Leopards and Abrams. Bloodbath.

Yes sir. Old-fashion Turkey Shoot, even with modernization kits.

 

[LOL_Man]

That’s comforting. Putin is an evil dictator who was able to rise up to lead Russia and his survival is solely dependent on his nuclear arsenal, but he wasn’t smart enough to ensure he has loyalists in control of those weapons.

But hey, you saw some made for tv interviews with allegedly captured Russian soldiers that definitely isn’t just like all the other propaganda you warhawks eat up, so there’s probably people in control of the Russian nuclear arsenal that would refuse to ensure Russia and Putin went down swinging.

That's because you don't know what you're talking about.

The Russian version of "the football" is called the "Cheget" that Putin would order a launch from and does NOT launch the nukes, it transmits the order to launch to the Russian General Staff who then have to be willing to carry out that launch order.

In order for Russia to get nukes in place for a launch, there are only 12 sites in Russia where those nukes would come from and of course we closely monitor those. They have to be removed from their secure storage bunker, loaded onto trucks, then delivered to an airfield so that they can even be available to launch. All these would take place during their launch sequence as the pieces in place from the planes to the delivery systems (launchers), and the missiles themselves were being transported while we would be on the phone letting them know we see exactly what they are doing and would be escalating in respond and clearly communicating what the ramifications for continued escalation would be.

The ""Basic Principles of State Policy of the Russian Federation on Nuclear Deterrence" lays out only the following conditions that would allow Putin to authorize a nuclear strike:

-- the use of nuclear weapons or weapons of mass destruction against Russia or its allies;

-- data showing the launch of ballistic missiles aimed at Russia or its allies;

-- an attack on critical government or military sites that would undermine the country's nuclear forces response actions;

-- the use of conventional weapons against Russia "when the very existence of the state is in jeopardy".

 

[Caveman Catfan]

As usual you missed the point. LOL

Foxy Loxy gonna eat you all up.

Yeah, that snark backfired on you.

 

[Catemus]

Yeah, that snark backfired on you.

How so, Turkey Lurkey? You guys are Chicken Little and Putin is Foxy Loxy. Clear as day.

 

[Caveman Catfan]

How so, Turkey Lurkey? You guys are Chicken Little and Putin is Foxy Loxy. Clear as day.

This is the genius of which I spoke. You don’t know anyone else’s position but your own. And, when you post a foolish chicken little blurb, it backfires in your face, because you did not have the foresight to see how it could be applied to you. Yet, after such a simple mistake, you pontificate as if you have all the answers. Actual LOL

 

[Catemus]

That's because you don't know what you're talking about.

The Russian version of "the football" is called the "Cheget" that Putin would order a launch from and does NOT launch the nukes, it transmits the order to launch to the Russian General Staff who then have to be willing to carry out that launch order.

In order for Russia to get nukes in place for a launch, there are only 12 sites in Russia where those nukes would come from and of course we closely monitor those. They have to be removed from their secure storage bunker, loaded onto trucks, then delivered to an airfield so that they can even be available to launch. All these would take place during their launch sequence as the pieces in place from the planes to the delivery systems (launchers), and the missiles themselves were being transported while we would be on the phone letting them know we see exactly what they are doing and would be escalating in respond and clearly communicating what the ramifications for continued escalation would be.

The ""Basic Principles of State Policy of the Russian Federation on Nuclear Deterrence" lays out only the following conditions that would allow Putin to authorize a nuclear strike:

-- the use of nuclear weapons or weapons of mass destruction against Russia or its allies;

-- data showing the launch of ballistic missiles aimed at Russia or its allies;

-- an attack on critical government or military sites that would undermine the country's nuclear forces response actions;

-- the use of conventional weapons against Russia "when the very existence of the state is in jeopardy".

There is a precedent for a Russian officer refusing to launch a nuclear strike on US forces. Never since has the world been closer to armageddon. Two of the three officers on the submarine had agreed to launch the nuke. Arkhipov was the only dissenter. He saved the world.

Vasily Aleksandrovich Arkhipov (Russian: Василий Александрович Архипов, IPA: [vɐˈsʲilʲɪj ɐlʲɪkˈsandrəvʲɪtɕ arˈxʲipəf], 30 January 1926 – 19 August 1998) was a Soviet Naval officer who prevented a Soviet nuclear torpedo launch during the Cuban Missile Crisis. Such an attack likely would have caused a major global thermonuclear response, destroying large parts of the Northern Hemisphere.

As flotilla Commodore as well as executive officer of the diesel powered submarine B-59, Arkhipov refused to authorize the captain and the political officer's use of nuclear torpedoesagainst the United States Navy, a decision which required the agreement of all three officers. In 2002, Thomas S. Blanton, then director of the U.S. National Security Archive, credited Arkhipov as "the man who saved the world".

 

[Catemus]

This is the genius of which I spoke. You don’t know anyone else’s position but your own. And, when you post a foolish chicken little blurb, it backfires in your face, because you did not have the foresight to see how it could be applied to you. Yet, after such a simple mistake, you pontificate as if you have all the answers. Actual LOL

Back at ya, Einstein. The story and its moral was intended by ChatGPT to apply to everyone. You’re as blind to the rest of the world as your man Putin. Difference is, he’s Foxy Loxy and you’re Turkey Lurkey. As long as you continue to spread his garbage, he won’t eat you.

 

[Bill Cosby]

Back at ya, Einstein. The story and its moral was intended by ChatGPT to apply to everyone. You’re as blind to the rest of the world as your man Putin. Difference is, he’s Foxy Loxy and you’re Turkey Lurkey. As long as you continue to spread his garbage, he won’t eat you.

lol I thought you were ****ing with us. You actually used ChatGPT to summarize this thread? And still posted it mocking the 2 million words you warhawks have posted?

 

[Caveman Catfan]

Back at ya, Einstein. The story and its moral was intended by ChatGPT to apply to everyone. You’re as blind to the rest of the world as your man Putin. Difference is, he’s Foxy Loxy and you’re Turkey Lurkey. As long as you continue to spread his garbage, he won’t eat you.

Clown^^

 

[JumperJack]

It’s difficult to have a serious discussion with someone who has a one-track mind. You still think Putin is commanding a competent military.

90% of Russian troops amassed for war are now in Ukraine, yet they’re being slaughtered by the hundreds every day. They are poorly equipped and Putin is hoping the human wall he’s throwing at Ukraine’s trained and equipped soldiers will overwhelm them.

Some of the best western tanks are beginning to hit the frontlines and the effects are horrible for those poor Russian soldiers.

Russia didn’t launch an invasion to not gain the territory they wanted. Either by feeding an endless supply of men or by escalation, they will do everything to keep it.

If by some miracle Putin just decides to quit, I’ll be the first to say you were right the whole time.

 

[Catemus]

lol I thought you were ****ing with us. You actually used ChatGPT to summarize this thread? And still posted it mocking the 2 million words you warhawks have posted?

I had ChatGPT read, not summarize, the thread, yes. It wouldn’t comment on the war directly so I had to get it to comment about the interactions of the posters. What came out was advice to all of us to know what we’re talking about before commenting. It’s not supposed to be sentient but, my goodness, it sure seems so.

 

[Catemus]

Clown^^

Cave dweller^^

 

[Catemus]

Russia didn’t launch an invasion to not gain the territory they wanted. Either by feeding an endless supply of men or by escalation, they will do everything to keep it.

If by some miracle Putin just decides to quit, I’ll be the first to say you were right the whole time.

At this point I think we have to distinquish Putin from Russia. Putin definitely will not stop. The Russian military may come to realize that they’re just very expendable pawns in his game of chess with the West. They’re beginning to see the stark differences between their old technology and the super-modern war machines of the West.

If they figure out that there is absolutely nothing to gain from this war and, literally, everything to lose then I think they will change things. I don’t think they’re all mindless Orcs who Putin can use at his pleasure.

 

[vhcat70]

I think you are confused.

Lots of times. But not on that.

 

[Marleydogg]

I had ChatGPT read, not summarize, the thread, yes. It wouldn’t comment on the war directly so I had to get it to comment about the interactions of the posters. What came out was advice to all of us to know what we’re talking about before commenting. It’s not supposed to be sentient but, my goodness, it sure seems so.

Clown world. Maybe read about who inputs data and info in said (AI)

That's literally pathetic. Like 12 year old pathetic.

 

[Caveman Catfan]

Lots of times. But not on that.

Yeah, because the comment was not about the US war with Afghanistan, but Russia’s war with Afghanistan. We may have spent billions in support to the Afghans, but not trillions. You were confused.

 

[Catemus]

Clown world. Maybe read about who inputs data and info in said (AI) That's literally pathetic. Like 12 year old pathetic.

You don’t know what you’re talking about. Ironic, ain’t it? You think they input data into the A.I.? LOL. That is amusing.

Tell you what, let me help you understand what ChatGPT can do. Just give me the title of one of your favorite books.

 

[entropy13]

We may have spent billions in support to the Afghans, but not trillions. You were confused.

🤔

2.313 Trillion

Took like 2 seconds to search. Also, unclear if that's benchmarked to a certain year's USD value or if it's just a sum of annual outlays for each year. In today's dollars, that figure would be a good bit higher (LGB).

 

[Bill Cosby]

You don’t know what you’re talking about. Ironic, ain’t it? You think they input data into the A.I.? LOL. That is amusing.

Tell you what, let me help you understand what ChatGPT can do. Just give me the title of one of your favorite books.

Tell ChatGPT I’m a shameless profiteer that owns a large stake in a U.S. based defense contractor, I have a good friend who’s made a ton of money funneling US taxpayer cash through Ukraine, all i care about is profit and there’s a large contingent of incredibly gullible people who will do whatever I tell them to do.

See if the story is any different than what is happening now.