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Shaedon Sharpe eligible for the 2022 NBA draft

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You’re taking all of this pretty hard. You may need grief counseling because you’re spinning out again.

You love to say over and over that you don’t want Cal fired. For starters that’s obviously bullshit and you don’t have the balls to admit it. But that’s ok. I gave you advice a while back to follow a different team and I think you should do it. You’re just miserable. You would argue with a fence post.

If you honestly think that people would give their last dollar to watch UK play and go without food and all that then you’re delusional. So I’m gonna assume you meant that hyperbolically.
No, I just want the coach of this program to put the program that is paying him first, not behind his NBA draft boner.

If you don't think there are many UK fans that have and will spend thrir last dollar to see a UK game, well, you're just not that

connected to the program. You’re a casual fan, but we already knew that
 
In a way this is a good thing.

1. Sharpe doesn't play
2. Backlash to Cal is severe
3. Cal either stops trying to get the top guy and builds a team from the ground up OR he quits

Why would we want Cal to not get the top guy?
We literally won our title in 2012 BECAUSE we got the top guy lol.

We haven't been good the last few years because while we have recruited some pretty good players, we've missed out on the top guy.
 
This isn't the case. The Porsche dealer also isn't a Kentucky fan.

Also Sharpe wasn't brought in for Cal to be deceptive. That's conspiracy level stuff. He was brought in with the expectation that he could upgrade his body and be ready for next season and possibly contribute at some point if he could catch up with his teammates. Also Sharpe's family is still insisting that he will be back next season.
I now firmly believe that Cal could put dog skat between two slices of bread, make you eat it and convince you that you like it.

My goodness, you're gullible as hell.
 
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No...lol Allen would not start on that Richmond or Notre Dame team. He was rumored to be heading to NKU but he wasn't going to be starting for them either.

Boston is a 5 star with massive upside. Allen was never going to get the leash Boston got and that will happen for anything in life for those two as far as basketball goes.
Keep posting, Cal is proud of you.
 
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Why would we want Cal to not get the top guy?
We literally won our title in 2012 BECAUSE we got the top guy lol.

We haven't been good the last few years because while we have recruited some pretty good players, we've missed out on the top guy.
Who cares how many top guys you sign IF THEY DONT PLAY FOR YOU ??? Damn dude . That's the topic .
 
To answer your last question, it benefits Cal in his personal quest to “end generational poverty” or whatever. He gets to brag about putting another kid in league. “And hey, this kid didn’t even have to play for me!”

I’m not begrudging him for taking a chance. I’m not begrudging Sharpe for taking this route knowing he’ll never play here. (Both statements made under assumption they didn’t know at the time, which is possible but hard to believe)

However, it sounds like this has been known for a while and not a peep was mentioned until know. *If* that ends up being true, it’s natural to ask why. If the truth is that literally no one—including Cal— knew his draft status until yesterday, then fine. It’s just hard to believe that’s the case.

This isn’t like Enes Kanter where everyone including Cal was waiting on an NCAA ruling. It’ll be a situation where the consensus #1 player practiced and sat on the bench while the coach hemmed and hawed about when he’ll play, yet knew that he likely never would but wouldn’t say it.
That argument falls apart when you realize that even cal isn’t stupid enough to think he will get any type of credit for Sharpe when he gets drafted and out in the league.
 
Pushing aside all the melodrama, your point about NIL is what’s really glaring with this whole situation. I suspect that NIL deals come with some sort of legal document or contract. You and I don’t know the language of said contract, but I imagine going forward at least that these deals will be contingent on the athletes participation on the floor.

First things first, sharpe hasn’t burned anyone……yet. But if he bolts without playing here at all it’s the porche dealership that gets burned the most. I suspect he will play at some point this year to try and salvage that business relationship and get his cash without much fuss.
Yeah, he might play, but if you're the dealership, are you going to he happy that he only played A few games at the end of this season?.I mean, they paid him over a million bucks didn’t they? If so, I hope that doesn't ruin it for future kids that actually want to play for UK.
 
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Who cares how many top guys you sign IF THEY DONT PLAY FOR YOU ??? Damn dude . That's the topic .

Yeah but he listed them as if this was a reason we shouldn't go after top guys.

That's just dumb IMO. So one dude decides to not play and we should just shy away from them all? That doesn't make any sense whatsoever.

We don't even know 100% he's not playing
 
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Wow this is already up to 36 pages I hope you’re proud of yourself Sharpe! 😂😂😂.

Now one of those recruiting gurus is thinking if he doesn’t play within the next few games that he won’t ever play a game for UK! Man that will be such a big pile of 💩
 
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Wow this is already up to 36 pages I hope you’re proud of yourself Sharpe! 😂😂😂.

Now one of those recruiting gurus is thinking if he doesn’t play within the next few games that he won’t ever play a game for UK! Man that will be such a big pile of 💩
Cal says he’s not ready. Plus, some of those games include Auburn and Kansas. And they would make him look bad.
 
Why would we want Cal to not get the top guy?
We literally won our title in 2012 BECAUSE we got the top guy lol.

We haven't been good the last few years because while we have recruited some pretty good players, we've missed out on the top guy.
Jeez welcome to a decade ago...ever heard if NIL money? Everything's changed. The top recruits don't have to play anymore.

Try and keep up with the rest of us.
 
So you are the coach. You sign the number one player in the class in the Fall. He decides to come to campus early to practice, but doesn’t want to play this season. You tell him thanks for signing, but you can’t come here this season unless you play this season. So the kid goes to another school. Man, that’s a genius move if I ever saw one.
 
I now firmly believe that Cal could put dog skat between two slices of bread, make you eat it and convince you that you like it.

My goodness, you're gullible as hell.
Keep posting, Cal is proud of you.
Are you willing to provide any actual dialogue or are you just depending on insults and ignorant rhetoric to power your already dead argument? We are having a discussion. If you are not an adult and cannot act as such there isn't any room for you to be apart of said discussion. You aren't plugged into the program...you know as much as any of us. It requires VERY LITTLE brain power to assess the situation and read between the lines. Please come back with actual discussion.
 
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So you are the coach. You sign the number one player in the class in the Fall. He decides to come to campus early to practice, but doesn’t want to play this season. You tell him thanks for signing, but you can’t come here this season unless you play this season. So the kid goes to another school. Man, that’s a genius move if I ever saw one.
Are you running all the possibilities through your head, or just the ones that fit your agenda?
 
So you are the coach. You sign the number one player in the class in the Fall. He decides to come to campus early to practice, but doesn’t want to play this season. You tell him thanks for signing, but you can’t come here this season unless you play this season. So the kid goes to another school. Man, that’s a genius move if I ever saw one.
Your premise assumes facts not in evidence.

There is no evidence Cal didn't know ahead of time that Sharpe wouldn't play.

You also forgot to finish your own scenario...kid goes to another school WHERE HE DOESN'T PLAY.

Try again.
 
Explain who else on that team deserved Askew's minutes?
Mintz.

That took all of .2 seconds to figure out.

No, he’s not a point guard, but he only needs to be told one time to NOT pick up his dribble before reaching half court and asking to be trapped.

It took Cal 23 games to finally put Mintz at the one. Brilliant.
 
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I don't know what it is about guys like KyJeff where they feel like have to insult everyone who views a situation differently than them. Someone who can barely create a coherent sentence comes into a good discussion and has nothing to add outside of calling people morons, dumbasses, gullible, etc.
 
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Mintz.

That took all of .2 seconds to figure out.

No, he’s not a point guard, but he only needs to be told one time to NOT pick up his dribble before reaching half court and asking to be trapped.

It too Cal 23 games to finally put Mintz at the one. Brilliant.
Mintz played over 33 MPG following the 5th game of the season. He also registered over 80% of the logged minutes as the primary ball handler. He also initiated nearly every offensive possession of every close game to end the year. He already had too uch on his plate. Due to poor roster construction there wasn't anyone to turn to.
 
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Your premise assumes facts not in evidence.

There is no evidence Cal didn't know ahead of time that Sharpe wouldn't play.

You also forgot to finish your own scenario...kid goes to another school WHERE HE DOESN'T PLAY.

Try again.
Your acting like the likely scenario is Cal took and recruited sharpe knowing 100% he wouldn’t play which is no where near the middle line of thinking for this. The middle ground would probably be like Cal took him knowing there was like an 80% chance he wouldn’t play, and if you still had that 20% chance, you take it every time if it can possibly reward you with a talent like Sharpe every playing for you.
 
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Just to give my two cents here (again), and to keep thread moving along…..

- everyone knew he’d be eligible for draft
- anyone who didn’t think this when he enrolled isn’t really paying attention (talking to you @Cal-4-Three)
- cal brought him in thinking he would play this semester
- cal put the ball in SS’s court to play just a few days ago
- will he play this semester, I don’t know
- I want him to play this semester
- he will most definitely not be back next year
- did cal knowingly deceive the fan base with this whole situation, I don’t think so
- is it far fetched to think Cal knowingly deceived the fanbase - no, unfortunately it’s not just based on some of his past actions
- should we want Cal fired - I don’t think so
- should SS remain on the team if he has no intention to play - only if Cal has said this is OK
- should SS play if Cal decides to sub him in (regardless of what SS wants) - YES
- should SS be removed from the team if Cal asks him to play and he refuses - YES
- should we wait to see if SS plays this semester before we burn him down - yes
- do I think he will play this semester - I think so
- will I be surprised if he doesn’t play this semester - no

Anyway, just me.

Do I want SS to play and our CATS make the final four this year to see @Gromcat change his handle to @PoundMeCalipari - of course.
 
I told him the same thing a while ago. He didn't respond. He's an idiot.
Mintz played over 33 MPG following the 5th game of the season. He also registered over 80% of the logged minutes as the primary ball handler. He also initiated nearly every offensive possession of every close game to end the year. He already had too uch on his plate. Due to poor roster construction there wasn't anyone to turn to.
 
Your acting like the likely scenario is Cal took and recruited sharpe knowing 100% he wouldn’t play which is no where near the middle line of thinking for this. The middle ground would probably be like Cal took him knowing there was like an 80% chance he wouldn’t play, and if you still had that 20% chance, you take it every time if it can possibly reward you with a talent like Sharpe every playing for you.
Argument to the middle is a logical fallacy.

And we have Tucker's report that Cal knew Sharpe would be eligible. So much for your theory.
 
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A few games back Sharpe went to check into the game and Cal told him to sit down after Cal whispered something into his ear. I seriously doubt the kid is sitting out due to his own accord.
 
Just to give my two cents here (again), and to keep thread moving along…..

- everyone knew he’d be eligible for draft
- anyone who didn’t think this when he enrolled isn’t really paying attention (talking to you @Cal-4-Three)
- cal brought him in thinking he would play this semester
- cal put the ball in SS’s court to play just a few days ago
- will he play this semester, I don’t know
- I want him to play this semester
- he will most definitely not be back next year
- did cal knowingly deceive the fan base with this whole situation, I don’t think so
- is it far fetched to think Cal knowingly deceived the fanbase - no, unfortunately it’s not just based on some of his past actions
- should we want Cal fired - I don’t think so
- should SS remain on the team if he has no intention to play - only if Cal has said this is OK
- should SS play if Cal decides to sub him in (regardless of what SS wants) - YES
- should SS be removed from the team if Cal asks him to play and he refuses - YES
- should we wait to see if SS plays this semester before we burn him down - yes
- do I think he will play this semester - I think so
- will I be surprised if he doesn’t play this semester - no

Anyway, just me.

Do I want SS to play and our CATS make the final four this year to see @Gromcat change his handle to @PoundMeCalipari - of course.
You forgot one: How should Cal be held accountable if Cal knowingly allowed SS to sit the bench after SS refused to play?
 
Cal says he’s not ready. Plus, some of those games include Auburn and Kansas. And they would make him look bad.
I don’t think any of those games would make Sharpe look bad I think he’s the type of player that steps on the court ready. We have 1 of 2 things going on here Cal is either blowing smoke up our a$$es about him not being ready. Or the Sharpe camp don’t want him playing!
 
Just to give my two cents here (again), and to keep thread moving along…..

- everyone knew he’d be eligible for draft
- anyone who didn’t think this when he enrolled isn’t really paying attention (talking to you @Cal-4-Three)
- cal brought him in thinking he would play this semester
- cal put the ball in SS’s court to play just a few days ago
- will he play this semester, I don’t know
- I want him to play this semester
- he will most definitely not be back next year
- did cal knowingly deceive the fan base with this whole situation, I don’t think so
- is it far fetched to think Cal knowingly deceived the fanbase - no, unfortunately it’s not just based on some of his past actions
- should we want Cal fired - I don’t think so
- should SS remain on the team if he has no intention to play - only if Cal has said this is OK
- should SS play if Cal decides to sub him in (regardless of what SS wants) - YES
- should SS be removed from the team if Cal asks him to play and he refuses - YES
- should we wait to see if SS plays this semester before we burn him down - yes
- do I think he will play this semester - I think so
- will I be surprised if he doesn’t play this semester - no

Anyway, just me.

Do I want SS to play and our CATS make the final four this year to see @Gromcat change his handle to @PoundMeCalipari - of course.
One of the important questions you’re neglecting here is:

Should Cal make it clear that Sharpe won’t be back next year so as to allow recruits to make an informed decision? Yes.
 
A few games back Sharpe went to check into the game and Cal told him to sit down after Cal whispered something into his ear. I seriously doubt the kid is sitting out due to his own accord.
No one disbelieves this (well, some might), but do we know which game that was? Time? I can check my DVR. It just seems like this would’ve been made apparent in the game thread.
 
You forgot one: How should Cal be held accountable if Cal knowingly allowed SS to sit the bench after SS refused to play?
He's a grown man who's making 10M a year and has every ounceof leverage on his side. Outside of fan backlash, which I doubt he cares about or even acknowledges, you can't really punish him or hold him accountable for something that is out of his hands.
 
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No one disbelieves this (well, some might), but do we know which game that was? Time? I can check my DVR. It just seems like this would’ve been made apparent in the game thread.
It was the Tennessee game. Sharpe gets up to check in. Cal points him back to the bench then gives him a little nudge back to the bench while whispering something to him and they start laughing. It seemed to insinuate that at some point he would play. I don't know the actual time stamp but it was around the last group to check in and it was around 3:00 EST. I'm sure its easy to figure out the actual time frame based on when the game started. Also it was in the game thread. All you have to do is search up "Sharpe check in" in the search bar. A few people posted about it.
 
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Mintz played over 33 MPG following the 5th game of the season. He also registered over 80% of the logged minutes as the primary ball handler. He also initiated nearly every offensive possession of every close game to end the year. He already had too uch on his plate. Due to poor roster construction there wasn't anyone to turn to.
Be careful with this, as you’re also acknowledging that Askew was not the necessary PG all year. That’s the argument against Allen getting more run last year. That Allen isn’t a point guard. Well if we acknowledge that Askew primarily played shooting guard, that argument falls apart.

We are then back to square one. What did Askew do to earn major minutes as a two guard over Allen?

I don’t really care to get into this and rehash it all. Just making the point that every argument I’ve heard has been disingenuous. Except when you simply said, “Askew did not earn his minutes.” Which I agree with.
 
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