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Shaedon Sharpe eligible for the 2022 NBA draft

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So I guess 5 star Quade Green had a higher ceiling than 4 star Shai Alexander did?

Sometimes 4 star recruits end up being better than 5 star recruits. I'm not sure Cal is giving playing time strictly on a star rating.

My guess would be the fact that he sees these guys in practice all the time and probably knows which of them has the higher ceiling and thus deserving of more rope.

It's just that those are usually the higher rated guys.
 
Who cares? The people who are constantly reminded that this player or that player hasn’t earned their minutes. It’s a hypocritical statement, for the reasons you yourself have pointed out.
Life isn't fair man. No Allen hasn't earned his minutes but did Sam Malone earn his? Should he have played? Should Brennan Canada get an opportunity? Kareem Watkins? Stacey Poole? Should he have been given a bigger role just to watch him fail? Allen in a couple of years will contribute to a team but right now we can't be toying with minutes just to accomodate him. He doesn't provide the ceiling of other players so it would be a waste of time.
 
I’m not upset at sharpe and I don’t think any fan should be. We would all do the same or want our son to do the same if we were in his shoes. We can’t blame him one bit. Of course he’s going to say he’s going to stay until next year. That’s the only way to take advantage of the facilities, coaching, etc. for this semester instead of wasting time in high school not improving your game. The NIL money is just icing on the cake.

However, if Cal in fact knew this all along, he deserves extreme scrutiny if not outright rage. As I stated in a different thread, the problem is that in this situation, what’s best for sharpe is not what’s best for UK. Therefore, if Cal knew this from day one, he put a single player’s personal interest above the team, the fans, and the university and got nothing in return.

Of course, none of this hurts me personally or any other fan in any way. However, if a kid is not going to play at all but have all these lavish perks of being at UK, we might as well just give a scholarship to a good Kentucky kid regardless of if he is worthy of playing basketball at UK. What’s the difference? Might as well let the son of Kentucky taxpayers enjoy these perks instead of someone using UK as a doormat to the NBA while not playing a single minute in return.
We have no idea whether he plays. Or leaves. It is all conjecture. That’s my point.
 
Sometimes 4 star recruits end up being better than 5 star recruits. I'm not sure Cal is giving playing time strictly on a star rating.

My guess would be the fact that he sees these guys in practice all the time and probably knows which of them has the higher ceiling and thus deserving of more rope.

It's just that those are usually the higher rated guys.
I dont buy it. I think Cal just favors other players more because he personally thinks it will make the team better. The guy was told not to offer Whitney and still did it, and he started him until he just couldn't do it anymore to the detriment of the team.
 
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So I guess 5 star Quade Green had a higher ceiling than 4 star Shai Alexander did?
Well theres a reason Quade was given opportunity after opportunity. Shai took his opportunity and ran with it. Thats what you expect from guys like that. Either they grab it by the balls or they play with the situation and get left behind. We have to figure out whether Allen can do that at some point or not. I hope he stays on the team so we can find out.
 
Well theres a reason Quade was given opportunity after opportunity. Shai took his opportunity and ran with it. Thats what you expect from guys like that. Either that grab it by the balls or they play with the situation and get left behind.
I can agree with that.
 
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Mintz deserved most of them.
Exactly....it is really that hard to not see!

1. Mintz should have played PG for 30 min as opposed to SG
2. Allen should have played 30 min as SF (or SG if Boston was playing SF)
3. Askew should have been 10 min a game guy

As it was...Askew was the 30 min guy per game...Allen was 10 min guy per game. It was completely backwards of what it should have been. Its done a gone....but Cal's 5* slobbering happens not just a one time event
 
You know..........we have such a passionate fanbase as evidence by this 34 page thread.

But in a way it's kind of sad.

I mean we have a huge game coming up. On the road. Vs the second best team in America.

I get this is big news and needs talked about but man.......I don't know. Huge game and we are talking about someone that may or may not play a min for us.
 
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Matt Jones from KSR let slip but quickly dismissed that Sharpe was going to be the first college basketball player to sign a major shoe deal next season and play College Basketball.
 
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I mentioned this earlier, but it bears repeating....UK actually loses quite a bit IF Cal had a reasonable inkling that Sharpe would not play this year or next. Putting aside the embarrassment to the program, few stop to consider that the time, money, coaching, and practice reps devoted to developing Sharpe was/is time, money, coaching, and practice reps that could have been devoted to developing players who might actually contribute to winning basketball games this season (ie: Collins, Hopkins, Allen, etc).

In addition, we know that Sharpe apparently got a pretty significant NIL deal upon arrival at UK. IF (and I emphasize "if") Cal knew that Sharpe would likely not play, then it's reasonable to assume that another player who is busting his ass in practices every day to win games this season may have missed out on a similar NIL deal when Sharpe signed w/ UK. Admittedly, the NIL aspect is conjecture, but still worth noting when the "Kentucky loses nothing if Sharpe doesn't play" argument is made.

My blue tinted glasses self is holding onto a thin sliver of hope that Sharpe plays for UK this year and/or next year, but after today's news about his 2022 draft eligibility, my realist self is pretty much resigned to the likelihood that he never plays in college.
Superb post . Good take
 
You know..........we have such a passionate fanbase as evidence by this 34 page thread.

But in a way it's kind of sad.

I mean we have a huge game coming up. On the road. Vs the second best team in America.

I get this is big news and needs talked about but man.......I don't know. Huge game and we are talking about someone that may or may not play a min for us.
It’s mind boggling. After last year you’d think fans would like to forget last year and focus on this current team. But nah we worried about last year and next year but not this year.
 
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Life isn't fair man. No Allen hasn't earned his minutes but did Sam Malone earn his? Should he have played? Should Brennan Canada get an opportunity? Kareem Watkins? Stacey Poole? Should he have been given a bigger role just to watch him fail? Allen in a couple of years will contribute to a team but right now we can't be toying with minutes just to accomodate him. He doesn't provide the ceiling of other players so it would be a waste of time.
No one is talking about Allen’s minutes right now. It’s moreso about his lack of opportunity last year and any comments regarding him, or other players (this isn’t just about one guy) needing to “earn” their minutes when the reality is that others aren’t held to the same standard.

I think it’s clear to everyone that Allen is riding the pine the rest of the year, and will play more basketball down the road if he transfers. Some are just tired of hearing the argument that all players must earn their minutes, when that’s not the reality of how things go here.

Of course I agree with you that life is not fair.
 
I can agree with that.
Tyler Herro was in the same situation with Quade. We know the kind of dogs Tyler and Shai are and they took their minutes back from Quade.

In contrast there was the situation with Jemarl Baker....he played around with his opportunity and he's now at Fresno St and barely playing.
 
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It’s mind boggling. After last year you’d think fans would like to forget last year and focus on this current team. But nah we worried about last year and next year but not this year.
You can worry about both. Sharpe was considered the best prospect in the deepest HS class in decades by NBA scouts. The guy is so good he is in top 10 in mock drafts without ever playing a second in a college game. Its comparable to losing Karl Towns, AD, or John Wall.
 
No one is talking about Allen’s minutes right now. It’s moreso about his lack of opportunity last year and any comments regarding him, or other players (this isn’t just about one guy) needing to “earn” their minutes when the reality is that others aren’t held to the same standard.

I think it’s clear to everyone that Allen is riding the pine the rest of the year, and will play more basketball down the road if he transfers. Some are just tired of hearing the argument that all players must earn their minutes, when that’s not the reality of how things go here.

Of course I agree with you that life is not fair.
For sure no one should anyone earned their minutes on our team. Moreso that guys just took advantage of an opportunity or they didn't.
 
Yes it is. People are so upset
Funny thing..had Cal won more titles and recently, especially 2015, people would be less upset about this
Upset at some things that have not happened- namely him not playing at all this year or him leaving at the end of the year. And everyone wants more titles- nothing wrong with that. Hell I wanted more than one from 1959 to 1996.
 
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Well theres a reason Quade was given opportunity after opportunity. Shai took his opportunity and ran with it. Thats what you expect from guys like that. Either they grab it by the balls or they play with the situation and get left behind. We have to figure out whether Allen can do that at some point or not. I hope he stays on the team so we can find out.
I only see him staying with the team if that NIL money is really good. If he sticks around and rarely plays the rest of his career, it is on him at this point.
 
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You can worry about both. Sharpe was considered the best prospect in the deepest HS class in decades by NBA scouts. The guy is so good he is in top 10 in mock drafts without ever playing a second in a college game. Its comparable to losing Karl Towns, AD, or John Wall.
LMAO what’s all the talk about tho? We play the hottest team in America tom and we are worried about something that ain’t going to be resolved in months…this board likes arguing and crying over spilled milk than actual games.

This board is a soap opera. Nothing more nothing less.
 
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LMAO what’s all the talk about tho? We play the hottest team in America tom and we are worried about something that ain’t going to be resolved in months…this board likes arguing and crying over spilled milk than actual games.

This board is a soap opera. Nothing more nothing less.
It is possible to be worried about both, Bass.
 
LMAO what’s all the talk about tho? We play the hottest team in America tom and we are worried about something that ain’t going to be resolved in months…this board likes arguing and crying over spilled milk than actual games.

This board is a soap opera. Nothing more nothing less.
And people like soap operas so much they’re on every day!

As the other dude pointed out, this forum is first and foremost about entertainment.
 
I only see him staying with the team if that NIL money is really good. If he sticks around and rarely plays the rest of his career, it is on him at this point.
I think next year we will need him on that second unit and as a veteran presence so I hope he stays. I still believe Sharpe is coming back so this is the lineup I'm seeing right now.

Wheeler-Clark-Wallace
Sharpe-Allen
Frederick-Livingston
Toppin-Hopkins
Collins-Ware

That leaves 2 spots for either transfers or Brooks and Oscar to come back.
 
You said it was a deliberate deception.

No, I think Cal took a chance on the #1 player and it might or might not work out. Tom Leach said on his morning show, that the nba ruling is still not certain. That sharpe has to apply for a waiver. So who knows?

My argument is, why would Cal take a player he KNOWS will never play for him? Where is the benefit for Cal?
Cal gets the benefit by holding on to the " greatest recruiter " tag , he got many many months of positive press and far far less heat for last year by signing such a highly ranked recruit .. the ole " wait til next year" is alive and well .. I see it nearly every day here . AND he gets the bragging rights about developing another NBA all star , even though he ( may) never see the floor at UK . Thats the benefit .
FWIW with all the heat this has stirred up , I think Cal pushes him to play .. but IMO its now or never .. you dont want a new player and only having 10 game to fit in . Hell there's only 13 games left . If you dont play him near immediately it isn't good for the team . Chemistry is important . He should have pushed/ demanded he play 4-5 games ago .. but IMO the writing is on the wall .. this kid and his gang isn't gonna have him play . And for that Cal should tell to him to pack his bags and get out .. if he doesnt it might .. MIGHT .. open up UK to fire him with cause and get out of that 50 mil payout . If they desired to do so . I'm at the point it doesnt matter that much to me .. but I am anxious for the UK ticket office to renew my football season tix .
 
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LMAO what’s all the talk about tho? We play the hottest team in America tom and we are worried about something that ain’t going to be resolved in months…this board likes arguing and crying over spilled milk than actual games.

This board is a soap opera. Nothing more nothing less.
Maybe Cal should have thought about that before he decided to keep that info to himself. The timing sucks and it's on HIM.
 
Maybe Cal should have thought about that before he decided to keep that info to himself. The timing sucks and it's on HIM.
The staff believes he's coming back whether he plays this year or not and they haven't moved off that so it wasn't like they were hiding information. I just dont think it mattered. Of course everything matters in our situation but if you believe that a kid is for sure coming back it wouldn't matter to them. They didn't leak that he wouldn't be draft elligible at the time either because it doesn't matter to them if he is or isn't.
 
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Entertainment or nails screeching down the chalkboard….
I hear you. But people are entertained in their own ways. I don’t like horror flicks. Many folks do. Some people spend money on lottery tickets and say it’s “fun” to play. I think that’s nuts.

I thoroughly enjoy this board. The great takes and the not so great takes. Game day threads. The rare good debates. The insanity. Love it all. The only thing I dislike is the cruelty of some.
 
Maybe Cal should have thought about that before he decided to keep that info to himself. The timing sucks and it's on HIM.
Guess what if we are winning which we currently are then IDGAF now if all this came out last year during this time I’d be piss but guess what it didn’t.

Winning cures everything that’s all I care about. Give zero ****s what cal says or does about the current situation…we are winning and that’s all that matters to me.
 
“The Plan”

So… Cal STILL allowing himself an “out” …

Future quote: “He planned on being here next season. But after talking to guys in the NBA and realizing how high his stock is and that he can make his dreams come true now, he has decided to do what is best for him and his family. And I fully support him. I support any kid who wants to chase his dreams.”
 
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