I take it, you didn't like the dog skat sandwich bit huh?
That's just what I think of your opinion, no offense.
Shaedon Sharpe eligible for the 2022 NBA draft
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That's just what I think of your opinion, no offense.
Guys like PJ, Quickley, Mintz and others came back and where great for us. Alot of guys leave but its not like we dont ever get guys to come back
Mintz played 33 mpg, but not at point and no, he wasn't initiating the offense, Askew was the main pg, Mintz only played spot minutes while Askew took a blow. I'm not sure what games you were watching last year, but it wasn't UK's games.
A high school junior was brought in to be the starting pg at UK, just think about that.
And given that his camp is STILL putting out quotes that he fully intends on playing next season, yeah I don't understand how anyone can conclude that Cal 100% felt he wasn't playing.
I have no idea if he steps on the court but if anything Sharpe's camp has been consistent in what they have said from Day 1 with all of this.
Yeah I dont expect Cal to just say no to the #1 player that is telling him he is going to come in and play. Even though with him being draft eligble meaning he probably wont play next year, you still have to take that chance.
You can point to almost every year and say "if that guy came back, instead of going to the GL, we would have been a complete team."
Or, in the case of the 21 team, we could say "if those 3 guys came back, we would have been at least a sweet 16 team, if not better, instead of going 9-16".
Example: if Dakari Johnson returns for 15/16, we're not a big fat doughnut that loses to Indiana.
You’re acting like we haven't lost any more guys than anyone else and that’s just false… laughably false.
No, we definitely lose more guys than we get to come back, I never said we didn't. When your recruiting the fringe 5 stars as such you are going to get guys like that leave and it sucks. But we also hit on some of those guys like SGA and Herro.
So you think PJ or Quickley should not have entered the draft when they were both 1st round picks? Them coming back is a win, just like guys like Hagans and others leaving were losses.
I call bullshit on this. This didn't happen, if it did, it would have been huge news.
I had no problem with the conversation until he got mad and resorted to name calling. He was making his point pretty well until then. I don’t know why he got hostile. He had a good point, I didn’t make myself clear the first time.
So, look at the rosters of the teams that are winning titles, what do you see?
There are several teams relying on young talent, as you can see, they either dive hard (Memphis and Michigan 21/22) or come up short because freshmen made freshmen mistakes (UK and duke every year).
I'm talking about Hagans, Vanderbilt, Dakari, EJ, Juzang, Lamb, Teague, Liggins etc…
Imagine that you missed something. I’ve been telling you to open your eyes when watching the games
I get what your saying, I would like things like that too, but I feel like the switch to that system is going to put us in a down place for 2-3 years which Cal cant really afford nor should he try to do. With the transfer portal, he can keep doing what he has been doing in recruiting the top guys and fill in the holes with already known top CBB players like he did this year.
It did happen during the TN game as a joke. Sharpe was playing to the fans like he wanted Cal to put him in. Sharpe and Cal were both laughing.
He did the same thing to me in the past and that's why I'm talking to him tge way I am now.
He doesn't deserve proper discourse from me.
He could do it right now. He already has a veteran team and if he changes the culture, he can get Brooks, Wheeler, Toppin, Allen, Ware and Hopkins back to join the bigtime recruits he has coming in.
Every year he has had the opportunity to recruit his own players back to UK, but somehow, the best recruiter in the business fails to do that.
It’s because he’s not actually trying to recruit those players back, because he always thinks his new class has better players than what he is losing. That’s been proven false too often.
Ryan was acting like SS was actually checking in in his post.
Yes I know he was. But it’s not true. It was just a big joke.
There is a difference between a solid college basketball player and a kid that is a super athlete and is an NBA prospect.
This 21/22 team is loaded with really good college basketball players, look what's happening. This is the type of team that wins college titles. This is what Cal should be trying to build every year instead of trying to collect draft picks.
Who are the NBA prospects on this team? Collins and Tyty?
No, this team is good, because it's loaded with exceptional veteran college basketball players that might get a cup of coffee in the NBA + one NBA prospect.
if he stays and plays next year we have some posters in this thread that are going to look like complete fools
if he does play, i hope those posters make a pledge to never say another negative word about Cal, players or UK in general
i wish the mods would pin this thread
Didn't have viable options on the bench, because the culture at UK gives players like Hagans, Richards, EJ and Juzang the mindset that this is just a halfway house and they should be leaving as fast as they can.
That’s on Cal, he grew that culture here and he watched as those 4 players left too early.
Yeah, Richards got a deal, but true title contenders have seniors that are better than Richards.
How many generational players do you think are available each year?
I've seen 4. Davis, Mello, Bron and Zion, we got 1 of them.
So is that our plan? Wait for a generational talent to show up and hope we get him?
That wouldn't be my plan, I'd rather go with juniors and seniors and win titles like Baylor, uNC, 'Nova (x2) and UVA have done recently. Seems more logical to me.
Cal is the one clamoring for it. He's the one who can change it, but he prefers getting nba prospects and 'helping them' as he pushes his current players to the next level.
Do we go 9-16 if Hagans, EJ, NR and JJ return? Those players return at most any other program, but not here.
We don't need generational. Just better than Boston and Askew lol.
Tyty isn't generational by any stretch of the imagination. But definitely a solid piece.
Why not have both tho? Why not rock it in the transfer portal and bring in solid upperclassmen like we did this season AND get the guys like Tyty.
I think the formula is right here
I feel like guys we have here for the most part are serving a purpose in all of this whether they are transfers or recruits. Guys like Hopkins and Collins maybe haven't produced all that much but I feel like in the future they can and will be.
What about if he leaves?Will those posters start a thread of apology to fans they bashed and say it's crazy to have a player on the team who never plays a game?
if they are calling others names like the ones i mentioned then absolutely yes they should
if they are taking the common sense stance on waiting to see what happens, then no they should not
i hope that clears it up
neither
the far left is like talking to a rock
the far right is like talking to a rock
we will just have to wait until the NBA draft to get the results
Tyty is thriving, because he’s surrounded by veterans. It’s why Jalen Suggs looked so good at Gonzaga last year.
Yeah, both, that's exactly what I'm saying. Cal COULD have his cake and eat it too, but too often, he sat there and watched most of his team leave, then had to act fast to plug holes. That’s not how this should go.
Right now, he has the portal and NIL in his favor, there should be no reason we should ever see thrown together lineups that have multiple weaknesses.
My hope is Cal learned his lesson and has decided to stop prioritizing the NBA draft.
FWIW I think this is what we see going forward.
He will still go after big time recruits. He will still be players first. Will still try to get them to the NBA as quickly as possible. But he'll also fill holes on this team through the portal.
The amount of people available through the portal has been relatively new. It's been what only one or two years since this has really exploded.
My guess is next year's team will be a mix much in the same veins as this one.
It wouldn't surprise me if this was a regular thing going forward.
I hope so, because if he doesn't change the culture, I'd rather he leave, because he’s not good enough to win titles in today’s game with 1 year rent-a-kids, unless there's another NBA lockout.
Enough damage has been done the last 5 years.
Can we please just start telling the number 1 recruit in the nation “no thanks”?
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