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Shaedon Sharpe eligible for the 2022 NBA draft
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So answer these questions for me.
1. In your opinion, do you think Calipari knew Sharpe was eligible for the 2022 draft before Sharpe enrolled?
2. Do you think Calipari felt Sharpe was projected as a high draft pick?
3. If you believe 1 and 2 were “yes”, why is Calipari not playing Sharpe if he has only a few months with him?
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Well.. again, we don't know what he knows. And we might not ever.
But I do think a coach should have SOME idea of his recruit's intentions. Not only when they commit but also as time goes on. You're right, things can change, I'm not ruling that out. But the fact that he wanted to come in a semester early, and NOT play, should have been a huge warning sign.
This boils down to one thing.
Sharpe USED this program to elevate himself, and Cal allowed it because it also elevated him.
And UK and the fans get ZIPPO from it!
Sharpe USED this program to elevate himself, and Cal allowed it because it also elevated him.
And UK and the fans get ZIPPO from it!
You can't be this dumb. Cal knew, and he knew a long time ago, and he deliberately withheld that knowledge from the public.
Huh...maybe you ARE this dumb.
Calipari had to know. It IS his job to have an idea of what players will be on the roster the following year, and whether or not they are eligible to go pro. Sharpe’s draft status had to be discussed non-stop. And if he didn’t do his homework, then he looks just as stupid.
I'm gonna keep waffling here..
But no, we don't know that. You might be right. But there's a good chance this was Sharpes plan all along.. and that Cal had no idea.
I still think along the same lines as you, that he probably should have done a better job feeling this situation out.
But we just don't know yet.
This forum is about to be at an all time low for a few months, especially if we don't win a final 4 lol.. that much is sure.
1. I don’t know. College/NBA Draft eligibility rules are in a pretty unique flux at the moment with NIL, non-college options like G League, Overtime, etc. And, Sharpe’s situation - graduating from high school after fall semester, turning 19, etc. isn’t exactly one that comes up all the time and that we’ve seen play out a lot. Again, up until about yesterday, the prevailing thought was that Sharpe would NOT be eligible. Givony, arguably the face of ESPN’s NBA Draft coverage, thought so. Not a single reporter came out and contradicted that report for months, despite it being a bombshell story. So if I had to guess, I would say when Cal took his commitment, it was unclear whether he would or wouldn’t be eligible.
2. I think he felt he would be a high draft pick; in which class? I don’t think Cal knew that with supreme confidence.
3. I didn’t say just “yes” to either of your questions, but I’ll answer anyways: I think Cal may have backed himself into a corner, and he knows that playing sharpe now when he doesn’t want to; OR Cal trying to play him and sharpe refusing/leaving the team could create a really terrible impression, would garner a lot of negative national media coverage, etc. and hurt both this years team’s mentality and his ability to recruit players in the future, when his entire schtick is “I care about your sons like they’re my own”.
Has the kid been with the team for even a month? If it were last year, this would be an issue, but the talent and depth at the guard position allows him to not be automatically necessary.
Calipari has more contacts in the NBA than anybody. If anybody could get an answer on the status of Sharpe’s draft eligibility, or anybody’s draft eligibility, it would be Cal. He could probably call someone up and know within 15 minutes. And we can’t say Cal didn’t know Sharpe’s specific draft eligibility details, as he would know his high school graduation dates and his birthday as both are on file with the registrar’s office. Nothing is a secret with these kids and their records.
Also.. our recruiting has taken a back seat. Cal's done so much for players, and THIS university has done so much for players, that recruits should be lining up for him.
.. and yet the majority don't. They get bought out, they listen to negative recruiting, they play it safe.
So kicking a player to the curb like Sharpe (if this is a new development by Sharpe) shouldn't mean dick in the grand scheme of things. Players who want to play will still come, and players who don't? Might go elsewhere. Izzo is still getting recruits and he practically strangles a player every year on the sidelines.
At some point, you have to fight back. Maybe after the season is over, to avoid any backlash.
Let's go win a Final4 and ****ing burn this bitch down after.
.. and yet the majority don't. They get bought out, they listen to negative recruiting, they play it safe.
So kicking a player to the curb like Sharpe (if this is a new development by Sharpe) shouldn't mean dick in the grand scheme of things. Players who want to play will still come, and players who don't? Might go elsewhere. Izzo is still getting recruits and he practically strangles a player every year on the sidelines.
At some point, you have to fight back. Maybe after the season is over, to avoid any backlash.
Let's go win a Final4 and ****ing burn this bitch down after.
This situation makes me appreciate guys like Oscar even more. I wish he was getting NIL money.
Your first sentence isn’t even remotely true. There are plenty of people with significantly more nba connections than Cal, like the guys who work in NBA front offices every day. Guess who those details also aren’t a secret to? Jonathan Givony. You’re also acting like this is just a situation that happens all the time and everyone just automatically knows the answer to because we’ve got tons of precedent to look at. It’s not, and we don’t. That’s why no one figured it out for *months* after it first started to leak that he was going to enroll early
The SILENCE from the Sharpe camp is DEAFENING!!
Cal and Shaedon have to know that the announcement today is going to cause all kinds of speculation from the fan base. But, I guess a "Players First Program" doesn't owe the fans ANYTHING.
Cal and Shaedon have to know that the announcement today is going to cause all kinds of speculation from the fan base. But, I guess a "Players First Program" doesn't owe the fans ANYTHING.
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People need to wake the HELL up.
Anybody with pride or vertebrae in their back will admit this is an unacceptable situation if it goes down the way it appears. Go into dormancy as a UK fan until something changes.
Anybody with pride or vertebrae in their back will admit this is an unacceptable situation if it goes down the way it appears. Go into dormancy as a UK fan until something changes.
Not to mention, all the distractions for the current team. Also, it’s holding up other recruits and their decisions. Could potentially cost us recruits, while Sharpe continues to sit on the bench and not play. Guys like Mookie Cook, which some are speculation a reclass. If he does reclass, chances are he’s going to Oregon. So, UK loses in both instances.
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Bingo. You just solved the question of why he would come to UK now if he didn't intend to play???????
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NIL pays way more than High School or AAU. Business decision.
EXACTLY!!
His and Cal's silence should mean that his former statements will stand: that he is staying and playing next season. But being realistic, his silence tells me that what Kyle Tucker Tweeted about Cal and Shaedon KNOWING he would be eligible for the NBA Draft THIS Summer, means that now EVERYONE knows, he can't stay another year because he will be a top 5 pick.
See what? See a Kentucky player being drafted in the top 5 picks and a kid that they all want to aspire to be, the #1 ranked player. Hahahahaha I mean if they come mid year then Yes, NIL deals are wonderful, do you have one? Stay in the lodge, practice with one of the best teams in college and use their facilities, do you use them? Have a front row seat to every game and learn from a Hall of Fame coach, do you do any of that? It helps UK because it DRAWS in other studs, those studs will play, Sharpe's situation is unique. YEP, I can see you clearly don't have any common sense.
I agree with that 99.9% of the time. But, this situation in particular is unique. The initial plan was for Sharpe to sit this season & play in 23 bc he wouldn’t be eligible for the 22 draft, anyway. But, Kyle Tucker says that Cal has known all along that Sharpe was eligible. If that’s true, then Cal also knew that Sharpe wouldn’t be at UK in 23. So, he was intentionally misleading or flat out lying to the fans.
He knew he couldn’t say that Sharpe would come to UK, but not to play. He’s gonna use our coaching, facilities, NIL deals, steal a roster spot from an actual player, etc & then enter the draft in June, without ever suiting up for UK. He would’ve gotten KILLED for that & rightfully so. He also knew ppl would be more receptive of Sharpe coming this year if they thought he HAD to come back in 23. A lot of ppl would be mad even if Sharpe played half a season & left. But, it would be UGLY if he doesn’t play at all & Cal knows this. So, he knew what he was doing. He was trying to sneak one by the fanbase, IMO.
There’s about 10 here that I sincerely question the size of their ball sack, if it’s even there, or / and their IQ.
Cal absolutely trolls the hell out of these guys.
Hahaha, why are you infatuated with "nuts"? That's all you think about lol. Yeah its a positive for everyone actually, the kid, the current team (they practice with him), the coach (it builds his brand) and UK (He represents them on the biggest stage in basketball NBA Draft. Live with it.
This was my thought. Same thing that happened with Vanderbilt’s injury.
It’s possible. And yes it’s his style. Cal was saying things about him playing last week, but said “if Covid”.
Sharpe is 100% not playing at UK next year. He plays this year or he doesn’t play at all. Calipari could be applying pressure because he needs this season bad. Without Sharpe, next years class isn’t close to one of his good ones at UK. We take a big step back next year more than likely. Cal is in a bad position and several cannot see it. They will if it goes a little more south.
We are good at getting bad at this being a top branding program. I mean come on if this stuff went on at Kansas or duke of even nova none of that would happen. Could you imagine it happening at Alabama or Clemson, Ohio st or uga in football? Don't think so. The name Kentucky in basketball is losing its meaning and it's because of Cal not looking out for the program.
What did DeAaron Fox say about Cal, winning at UK and the NBA?
How many former Cal players have said that Cal REFUSED to allow them to return to school because their NBA Draft slot was TOO HIGH? Boogie said it VERBATIM!!!
Now, tell me HOW a "Player's First" coach and his program could ALLOW Sharpe to return when he will be a top 5 pick?????
HE WON'T!!!!
How many former Cal players have said that Cal REFUSED to allow them to return to school because their NBA Draft slot was TOO HIGH? Boogie said it VERBATIM!!!
Now, tell me HOW a "Player's First" coach and his program could ALLOW Sharpe to return when he will be a top 5 pick?????
HE WON'T!!!!
Calipari lied. It’s that simple. He’s known the entire time Sharpe wasn’t going to be at UK next season. I fully believe Cal just wants his name attached to another top pick that he’s not getting anymore and he couldn’t care less that he’s not stepping on the court. He will apply pressure to get him playing this season because the pressure will mount and with a mediocre team next year, he probably realizes right now he at least needs him to play.
It’s not hard to understand it, but some only care about making Calipari look good. They don’t care what happens to UK, even though I think they’re misguided and it’s not intentional.
They want it both ways. When it works one way, he cares and won’t let them return. When it works the other way, Calipari cant lie so - he was duped. We’re now at the Pitino didn’t know excuse at UK.
These are coach fanboys. The UK program is secondary to them.
We aren’t going to be the top program when Cal leaves. We’re closer to becoming Indiana than becoming what UK was. Duke is going to become the new top program. And some of these guys will say that’s fine because it doesn’t mean anything. YOU JUST HATE CAL!!!!!
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