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Shaedon Sharpe eligible for the 2022 NBA draft

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Just because someone doesn't see the Sharpe situation as important doesn't mean they don't care about the team in general.

Everyone that spends a considerable amount of time on this board obviously cares deeply about UK basketball.
Then I would think the news of the #1 recruit in the country and the cream of our class next year potentially never playing a minute here would seem important.
 
I don’t understand why all of these cool cats on this board who couldn’t care less about any of this stuff waste their time here. I mean if it’s so unimportant what happens with this team and they don’t care about this or that why even come here and post?
I don’t waste my time on things that I don’t care about.
That’s the point I’m making, this doesn’t effect anything.
 
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I disagree with you on this poin. It’s logical only if someone always thinks Cal has no integrity. Most objective people do not think this was Cal’s plan all along. Plus we honestly don’t even know he won’t ever play. That is pure conjecture on a couple of peoples stories plus if anyone thinks CJ he’ll go top 5 with not playing for a year out of high school then that’s not rational.

Whos Cj?

I’m not wrong but you can disagree. And him playing this year doesn’t prove anything, the Heat will be on him and Calipari to get him involved. We don’t know what the original plan was, and I’m sure Cal did try and persuade him to play to an extent, but he’s fine if he doesn’t and everyone here knows it. If you’ve been following Calipari and his ways you know it too.

As far as integrity, it’s absurd for anyone to talk college basketball coaches and integrity for the most part. These guys do this for a living and largely got to where they are by competing at the highest level. People with integrity largely get snuffed out long before they reach the top of this profession. College basketball kids have some of the worst human beings around them imaginable. I’ve been involved with it and that’s just the truth. If you’re looking for integrity in this game you’re gonna have to stretch your definition.

We do not get kids like Sharpe anymore. We just so happened to this time and the reason seems very obvious if you’re willing to see it.
 
Yeah, I'm sure with all of Cal's NBA contacts, he couldn't find out this info for the kid. Some of you guys sure believe everything Cal says.
Again, what does Cal gain from taking a player he knows will never play for him? Sharpe did not need to come to UK to become an NBA 1st rounder.
 
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So he either plays for us, or never plays college…what’s the downside?
We lost potential Nick Smith Keynote George and a list of wings we need on next years team. That is what the lost for Ky….

Plus it’s really pissing off the fanbase. Do you think we get to 23 page thread within hours if this was just a small percent of base ?
 
Yeah, I'm sure with all of Cal's NBA contacts, he couldn't find out this info for the kid. Some of you guys sure believe everything Cal says.
Cal hasn’t commented on this publicly, so I’m not following anything he’s said. Really weird and totally ignorant for you to even bring that up. Accusing others of eating up everything Cal says isn’t a substitute for making a logical argument.

Jonathan Givony is one of the more connected reporters in the world and he thought he wasn’t eligible.
 
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One would have to be an absolute moron to believe that. Of course that’s what’s being said publicly. This isn’t Hami Diallo, some fringe NBA pick. He’ll go lottery without ever even as much as playing one second of basketball for UK. Never liked his coming early from the very beginning.
 
Maybe Cal was just weighing the chance of playing vs not playing and felt that it was more likely he would play than not and thus recruited him.

I mean who knows. I'm certain this was all discussed before he came. And while I agree with recent articles that it's more unlikely than likely he plays, lets see how it plays out.

It's out there now. Cal will have to at least address this. I'm curious to hear what him and Sharpe have to say.
I think Sharpe will likely say the plan hasn't changed.It's not like he would come out and say he's leaving.
 
Maybe Cal was just weighing the chance of playing vs not playing and felt that it was more likely he would play than not and thus recruited him.

I mean who knows. I'm certain this was all discussed before he came. And while I agree with recent articles that it's more unlikely than likely he plays, lets see how it plays out.

It's out there now. Cal will have to at least address this. I'm curious to hear what him and Sharpe have to say.
Ha ha...you think Cal will be forthcoming on all of this?

I will say this. If Cal tells him to suit and play and he says nah.....then he should not be on the team. This is UK, not an advertising agency.
 
Literally no one is arguing that this topic was never discussed during the recruitment. That’s just a really boring straw man for the people rage-crying about how Cal hurt their precious feelings keep stupidly trotting out.

People are just saying that it’s not some given that Calipari knew with 100 percent certainty that he wasn’t going to play and still took him. That doesn’t mean they didn’t discuss it in his recruitment.
 
Cal hasn’t commented on this publicly, so I’m not following anything he’s said. Really weird and totally ignorant for you to even bring that up. Accusing others of eating up everything Cal says isn’t a substitute for making a logical argument.

Jonathan Givony is one of the more connected reporters in the world and he thought he wasn’t eligible.
If there was nothing to it, he would have commented publicly to shoot down any rumors. His silence is telling.
 
One would have to be an absolute moron to believe that. Of course that’s what’s being said publicly. This isn’t Hami Diallo, some fringe NBA pick. He’ll go lottery without ever even as much as playing one second of basketball for UK. Never liked his coming early from the very beginning.
Some guy posted he’ll come back and work on his game for a year 😂
 
Ha ha...you think Cal will be forthcoming on all of this?

I will say this. If Cal tells him to suit and play and he says nah.....then he should not be on the team. This is UK, not an advertising agency.
Well, I can agree to that.
 
If there was nothing to it, he would have commented publicly to shoot down any rumors. His silence is telling.
Maybe, it’s only been a few hours. Cal doesn’t always shoot down rumors right away. In any event, I’m pretty obviously not parroting anything he’s said since … he hasn’t said anything.
 
And you think the bean counters in charge of the money at UK, will allow that to keep happening? IF it happens.
Yes I do. Cal runs UK. If he wants this kid to stay, never play, and then leave. That is exactly what will happen.

It almost happened with Diallo. Very likely it does happen with Sharpe. If Cal doesn't force his hand to play, then he is weaker than Barnhart.
 
Going to have to completely disagree with this line of thinking.

We’ve got a team this that year that’s currently ranked #3 in the nation on Kenpom and #4 in the nation by ESPN BPI, and looks to be a legit contender for a final four.

We also have a huge game coming up with the #2 team in the nation and, according to ESPN BPI, our remaining schedule is the fifth hardest in the nation.

If we’re UK fans who care about winning, then I think the better approach is to enjoy this team and let the staff focus on coaching and not distractions. We can deal with the Sharpe situation after the season ends.

Personally, I’m more concerned about Auburn than I am Sharpe at the moment.


Well, sure. I'm just saying this forum is gonna do what this forum does.. and the BBN fanbase, likewise. So maybe we don't want to ruffle feathers right now, I get that. But I also think that this is the sort of fanbase whose voice can be heard. And it would be nice if the fanbases disdain for this, would be picked up by writers, who then bubble it up to the university/staff.. who then say "Ok, something is wrong with this".

Even if Sharpe never plays a game.. fine. But we sure don't want this to happen again. And I think that's where BBN can make a difference.
 
I can absolutely agree with you in being annoyed at him leaving the program after a year, not just from a pure UK fan perspective, but in general. But I don’t agree with talking down on an 18 year old kid for doing everything he can to ensure that he’s a lottery or top 5 pick.

There’s zero chance that both Cal and Sharpe didn’t know was an option going into this. But I also highly doubt that was the plan all along.

Look at the reaction of the fan base when we heard that he is eligible. Now that it’s out, there’s going to be constant bickering, speculation, etc. around the league, by fans, and in the UK program. And all we heard is that he’s eligible. Not leaving, not testing the waters, just eligible. I can one thousand percent see them not wanting this to leak solely to limit the distractions during the season.
My post was made because all we see is the small picture, outside view. We know nothing of what’s actually going on and flat out assume the worst, and take it out by trashing the team and kids without taking everything into consideration.

I don’t get involved with the players choice to enter the draft. That’s their personal decision, and as a fan it’s not for me to get into other than to advocate for our position. I wont ENDORSE them leaving the roster because again, as a fan, we should want the opposite. There’s no logic in fans of the UK program endorsing these guys to leave, making our roster weaker. I’ll never understand that at all. We are the only ones who can somewhat defend the program by turning the heat up here, on other social media platforms, and wherever else their voice can be heard.

Calipari has convinced several to openly advocate for a personal decision of a guy they don’t know at all, which makes their favorite team and program they care about weaker. I just don’t see where it makes any sense at all for a fan to get involved in that.
 
Some guy posted he’ll come back and work on his game for a year 😂
So, we finally get a number 1 ranked player again, after a several year drought. Only problem is, he’ll never play a second for UK, unless he plays this season. You think for a second coaches like K or Pitino would’ve allowed this to happen?! This is completely absurd and an absolute mockery of our program.
 
Man, some of you guys probably stand at your door everyday looking for Publisher's Clearing House to show up.
You don’t know anything, you have no ability to effect anything. “Worst” case scenario, it’ll be like he was never here…I’d hate to be around some of you when something actually bad happens. I guess that’s why you come here though, no one is willing to put up with this bs in person. It makes it particularly sad because your joke reveals your dumb AND old. Not a good combo.
 
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Thing is our fans will hate cal for not going after the number 1 recruit. They will also hate him if said recruit spurns us for the NBA. Those people already hated Cal to begin with so it is what it is.

Like my wife always says……nothing ventured, nothing gained.
 
Whos Cj?

I’m not wrong but you can disagree. And him playing this year doesn’t prove anything, the Heat will be on him and Calipari to get him involved. We don’t know what the original plan was, and I’m sure Cal did try and persuade him to play to an extent, but he’s fine if he doesn’t and everyone here knows it. If you’ve been following Calipari and his ways you know it too.

As far as integrity, it’s absurd for anyone to talk college basketball coaches and integrity for the most part. These guys do this for a living and largely got to where they are by competing at the highest level. People with integrity largely get snuffed out long before they reach the top of this profession. College basketball kids have some of the worst human beings around them imaginable. I’ve been involved with it and that’s just the truth. If you’re looking for integrity in this game you’re gonna have to stretch your definition.

We do not get kids like Sharpe anymore. We just so happened to this time and the reason seems very obvious if you’re willing to see it.
Must be nice to be able to proclaim you’re right while just talking out of your ass all the time.
 
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You don’t know anything, you have no ability to effect anything. “Worst” case scenario, it’ll be like he was never here…I’d hate to be around some of you when something actually bad happens. I guess that’s why you come here though, no one is willing to put up with this bs in person. It makes it particularly sad because your joke reveals your dumb AND old. Not a good combo.
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And you want to call someone else dumb?
 
Cal is players first. Have you not heard this? He will always take care of the players before the school. He will put their interests first always.
HIS players. Again, Sharpe did not need to come to UK, or any other school, to become a top 10 nba draft choice. If what you are suggesting is true, why isn’t Cal loading up on poor kids with marginal talent? They’re the ones that need his help.
 
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And some of you wear masks alone in your car.
OK...I don't want to get in the middle of your discussion with Cawood...but I laugh and shake my head every time I see someone wearing a mask in their car when there's no one else in the car with them. Anyway, I don't want to get sidetracked on the Sharpie discussion...
 
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That’s the point I’m making, this doesn’t effect anything.
Doesn't affect anything? How so? If he leaves after this year without ever playing then, UK gets nada from him being here. Also, if he leaves, then next year's class is missing the key piece to it.

It's a win-win for Sharpe. UK gets absolutely nothing if it plays out that way. HIm being at UK does nothing if he never plays.
 
Cal is players first. Have you not heard this? He will always take care of the players before the school. He will put their interests first always.
He says that stuff to land the players to help HIM succeed. To believe otherwise requires you to believe that Cal is this totally humble selfless Mother Teresa of basketball just trying to help kids to their dreams. I don’t believe that for one second. He’s an egotistical maniac who cares about himself more than anyone. So, how does taking Sharpe just for him to never play serve that purpose?
 
We lost potential Nick Smith Keynote George and a list of wings we need on next years team. That is what the lost for Ky….

Plus it’s really pissing off the fanbase. Do you think we get to 23 page thread within hours if this was just a small percent of base ?
I think the internet in general is a bad representation of what most normal people think. I especially don’t take it seriously after being on this board for years and being familiar with the special brand of dumb and crazy that lives on here.
 
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HIS players. Again, Sharpe did not need to come to UK, or any other school, to become a top 10 nba draft choice. If what you are suggesting is true, why isn’t Cal loading up on poor kids with marginal talent? They’re the ones that need his help.
Exactly, why isn't he? If Cal agreed to this whole thing, then he deserves every bit of the heat and scorn he gets over it. This is the epitome of not caring about the school that pays you.
 
I don’t get involved with the players choice to enter the draft. That’s their personal decision, and as a fan it’s not for me to get into other than to advocate for our position. I wont ENDORSE them leaving the roster because again, as a fan, we should want the opposite. There’s no logic in fans of the UK program endorsing these guys to leave, making our roster weaker. I’ll never understand that at all. We are the only ones who can somewhat defend the program by turning the heat up here, on other social media platforms, and wherever else their voice can be heard.

Calipari has convinced several to openly advocate for a personal decision of a guy they don’t know at all, which makes their favorite team and program they care about weaker. I just don’t see where it makes any sense at all for a fan to get involved in that.

If Anthony Davis or John Wall or the majority of superstars at UK that left early wanted to stay and play for four years I don't think any logical reasonable fan would not want that.

I think it just comes down to what we can do and what we can't do. I mean it's like you are saying, it's their personal decision. I don't think it's about endorsing anyone to leave. No one wants players to leave. I just think that some realize it's out of their control and why worry about something you can't control.

If the argument is don't promote a program that does this. Don't support this process that Cal does. But TBH while I would love four years of Anthony Davis, I would also prefer one year of Anthony Davis and the title he helped bring over 0 years.
 
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As long as we’re throwing hypothetical’s out there. Anyone think Cal could’ve leaked it because Sharpe and his camp don’t want to play this season?
And now he’s trying to up the pressure? If that’s the case it’s the only card Cal has other than telling him to leave and he doesn’t have the stones for that.
 
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