Shaedon Sharpe eligible for the 2022 NBA draft
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After you’ve spent the night going crazy about what a 19 year old MIGHT do, and speculating about why it’s potentially a bad thing with no actual proof. Yeah, you got me.
It hurts us because everything that UK does is noted by other recruits. Do you want to be in a position where we recruit people never knowing whether or not they’ll play? How will we ever truly know what our team is until halfway through each season? Don’t answer that, it’s kind of like that already.
I don’t begrudge Sharpe for taking this path if it was allowed. But if Cal knew about this, he has a lot of explaining to do. This is still a public university funded by Kentuckians and their tax dollars. To allow a kid to benefit from all of that, not to mention private money from sponsors providing NIL, without ever playing one minute is a bit too much.
Give my son a scholarship, NIL money, and a place to sit on the bench while he getting a free education. Granted, he sucks at basketball and would never play, but what’s the difference?
Why would someone think it couldn’t happen to those guys? The whole “going to the school only to opt out” thing is fairly new, but Duke got burned when Jalen Johnson opted out in the middle of last year. Pitino got burned by multiple guys who committed to Louisville only to back out and go pro. So I don’t think it’s some massive stretch to think this could happen to them.
Then why are you here posting if none of this matters? Spare me your little "I'm above this" speech about posting on this board. Go tell someone else how important you are.
I will tell you this. The fans have always been the heartbeat of this basketball program. Always. They are the reason Rupp holds 20K plus. UK pays Cal like they do because there is a rabid fanbase for UK basketball.
You may think you're some enlightened, above it all superior fan, you're not. You just seem to be a Cal first fan. Just another kool aid drinker.
I’ve read enough of this thread to know that we’ve got the same people posting that love our coach so much that they can’t rationally admit that he makes mistakes. We also have people going overboard on the opposite end of that debate as well. If Sharpe doesn’t play, Cal made a mistake. It’s ok to admit that. I understand Cal uses his NBA pitch in recruiting but If this situation works out that Sharpe doesn’t play at all… then changes will need to be made so that our program isn’t put in this situation again.
So nothing of actual substance, got it. You know you have the other guy on the ropes when you point out common misspellings when someone is texting.
Folks can do what they want. Just seems to me that if what you suggested is the approach that people want to take, then a better time would be after the season if and when Sharpe declares.
As far as I’m concerned, we’ve got bigger fish to fry than Sharpe at the moment and a fan uproar at this time over this seems counterproductive.
Right now, we have a team that’s potentially capable of hanging a 9th championship banner. That’s the only thing I want the coaching staff to be thinking about. After the season, it’s a different story.
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I don’t know. I honestly think this whole situation looks worse on Calipari than on Sharpe’s camp.
Do you think Sharpe plays this year? DO you think Cal or Sharpe decides that? If he leaves and never plays. Are you saying Cal got suckered by Sharpe and all of this caught him off guard?
Totally different. Johnson actually played basketball games at duke. This is unprecedented and has never happened before I don’t believe. It wouldn’t happen to them because they wouldn’t have allowed a kid to make a mockery of their program, like Cal will here.
Amazing. Tell us more about how you don't care about any of this as you continually post in this thread about something you don't care about.
For me that's my problem with this situation.He is at UK on a FREE scholarship and he is making good money with the NIL but probably never play a second is for me,to damn much to ask fans to swallow.
Hey brother, I hate you have blocked your profile, I clicked on it show my wife your beautiful wife, I told her the story. It's sad that people have do this on this board.
God bless you bud, hope things are going good with you. I have been there in the 80's, you really never let go, just have to move forward.
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You make a very good point, but it’s hard to separate Sharpe from that ultimate goal. I know the argument can be made that we benefit from him in practice, but the counter argument is that he’s also taking time and resources from the coaches and facilities that could be better spent on players who are actually going to contribute to the goal of a championship
Oh I agree, it’s his mess. And we probably missed out on a good recruit or two that would’ve played here for this mess.
I honestly hope Sharpe plays this year and helps us. If not it was all for nothing.
These same people who say “who cares” and “what does it matter” probably sing a different tune when a player goes out with an injury, transfers, or signs elsewhere.
Yeah I kind of see that now. Maybe this isn't the time to rock the boat. There's really no harm in letting Sharpe continue to practice which maybe.. maybe, helps the team get better (although I never thought this mattered).
But come April, I'd like this solved pretty quick. There's no reason for Sharpe to be here any longer past that point if he's not fully committed. And I think it also sends message to future recruits, and families, to go try this shit elsewhere.
Lmao leave it to the Cal nut huggers to somehow spin this into a positive. Unbelievable.
Either Sharpe leaves without playing a minute and Cal was complicit in the plan, or Sharpe leaves and Cal has egg on his face and got played because he didn’t analyze the situation like he should have. Both situations make Cal look bad.
1) I can’t give an answer I feel confident in. This time yesterday, the primary thought was that he wouldn’t even be eligible for the draft, and we were either going to see him play some this year AND next year, or at least just next year. Gun to my head? I’d say he probably doesn’t play, but I don’t feel confident about that.
2) Ultimately Sharpe decides if Sharpes going to play.
3) No, I don’t think it means Cal got “suckered.” Why do you think it’s just so implausible that this recruitment started off like a totally normal one, then the possibility of going straight to the league came up, and Cal took a gamble that an ultra talented player that he’d already invested effort and tike recruiting might opt to play? You can keep acting like there’s just no way that could happen but at some point you should probably explain why, and your explanation shouldn’t be “you just love Cal!!!!!”
This type of thing has happened before. If it hasn’t become a regular thing already, it won’t now. Again, I just choose to not get angry about hypotheticals. No one knows what happened. No one knows what would have happened if it had not happened. No one knows what will happen. Welcome to the internet, where people have to find a reason to throw a fit and then talk out of their ass to justify it.
Cal had to know whether this kid was eligible for the ‘22 Draft or not. It’s his job to know that. And if he knew that, he had to know Sharpe was extremely likely to leave as he had to also know his current draft stock. And if he knew those two things, why is he deciding to withhold him from playing if he knows he’s only going to have Sharpe for a few months? If Calipari thought he was going to get a top-5 draft pick to return for another year, he’s a massive idiot.
I want him to play. I want him to play this season and next. I mean, I still want Shawn Kemp to play.
But I don’t see the benefit of getting upset over it one way or another. And certainly not before it plays out.
But I don’t see the benefit of getting upset over it one way or another. And certainly not before it plays out.
I understand what you’re saying, but you have to remember that it’s Cal himself who prides himself and brags about ripping up scholarships for players who are projected to be lottery picks. It seems implausible for him to “take a chance that he’ll play” on a guy who we all know Cal would later brag about pushing to the league even if the guy wanted to come back
Well no, it’s not totally different. A kid opted out of playing for the school he committed to. That’s actually pretty similar. Maybe not convenient for your argument, but similar.
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Right. He NEVER plays here. Cal also told Diallo that he would be crazy to play in 2017 and show his weaknesses. Furthermore, Cal won’t play him this season due to the possibility of him being injured.
What coach would turn away the number one player in the class because there is a POSSIBILITY that he MIGHT opt for the NBA?
I am sure that after the first few OADs became successful in the NBA, many people, maybe even yourself, thought that it would never become common place.
At the time we won our last championship in 2012, did anyone think we’d be talking about our players being given Porsches before the tip off of their first game as a freshman?
I hope for all our sake that you’re right. But just because you can’t imagine something today doesn’t mean it can’t or won’t happen tomorrow
It’s NOT similar. Did Johnson reclass and unexpectedly come in mid season? Didn’t Johnson play like half the season or close to it? You’re wrong, it’s simply not good for YOUR argument. These aren’t similar situations.
Again, this takes a certain belief that Cal is totally selfless and only wants what’s best for his players. I just don’t believe that. He wants to use them to help himself. And once he’s done using them on the court, he wants to use them in his recruiting pitch to the parents of the next years’ top talent - “if your kids a lottery pick, I wont stand in his way!” - so that he can use the next crop of elite recruits to continue helping himself.
If you really believe Cal is that selfless dude who only cares about the kids he puts on for recruiting purposes, then I guess we probably wont agree on this one. I think he’s FOS and cares about himself. In fact I think he’s almost too obvious about it
Why didn't Sharpe just come in the fall and play in his correct class and get in a full season? If you are a top ten player, you shouldn't be wanting a redshirt year.
Why would you allow the number one player to enroll early, knowing he’s eligible to go pro that same year, and then not play him?
There was a time when we all took pride in Cal backing off of a prized recruit that seemed to have various issues—be it work ethic, grades, handlers, etc. I would think never playing one minute for us would be something that I would want him to sniff out and stop recruiting as well.
For starters, the downside is that Sharpe is benefitting from the resources available at UK (notoriety, NIL, nutrition, weight training, practice development, and individual development) with no reciprocal benefit to UK. In fact, those who argue that UK loses nothing if Sharpe never plays at UK probably have not considered that the videos of his individual workouts we were all drooling over a few days ago, in hindsight, were reps that a player who actually plays may not be getting. Time is a limited commodity with regard to coaching instruction. If it turns out that Cal knew Sharpe would never play, the time spent coaching Sharpe is time lost in coaching a kid who might actually contribute to winning games in the here-and-now. I'm pretty sure players like Hopkins, Collins or Allen might benefit (and likewise, the team would benefit) from some of the extra work and attention that Sharpe is getting.
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Well no, it’s not his job to “know” that, just like it’s not his job to know exactly where any one particular recruit is going to go. That’s a silly, ridiculous standard. His job is to get on the court results. Recruiting involves a lot of unknowns. Coaches at every program, even the best ones, invest time and energy in prospects that ultimately go elsewhere, or don’t play as well as anticipated, or turn into locker room cancers. Etc. Etc.
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