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Russia - Ukraine WAR Warning: Political Discussions

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He’ll have to get in line behind you to cheer it on won’t he VH? Mitch and Joe love cucks like you. Makes their money laundering child’s play.
Another DA take. Putin removing people from their homes in Ukraine & sending them to Russia & it's some "war chief" 's fault. Who else can that be besides your buddy Putin? WTF does MM have to do with that, even Biden? Are you a member of the leftist Squad?
 
You do realize that thousands of people from those regions have been removed to Russia, right? They left the pro Russian people in place. Gee, I wonder how that vote would turn out. Once again, that is incentivizing the illegal and brutal steps Russia has taken. That cannot be allowed.
except that speech Putin just gave he said the 4 oblast that just voted aren't going back to Ukraine. If Ukraine sees that as the end point of negotiations, then this war is going to get a lot more violent in a few weeks.
 
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Well this may have just escalated to bad. There are reports that Russia is saying they have proof the UK hit nordstream 1 and 2 and they have proof they were behind the bridge strike and attacks on their navy... Discussions in Moscow of declaring war on the UK.. Fvck! That would be ww3 right there boys. Hope this isn't true.
 
except that speech Putin just gave he said the 4 oblast that just voted aren't going back to Ukraine. If Ukraine sees that as the end point of negotiations, then this war is going to get a lot more violent in a few weeks.
Putin may have little say in the matter. Ukraine isn't likely to make that huge concession.
 
Well this may have just escalated to bad. There are reports that Russia is saying they have proof the UK hit nordstream 1 and 2 and they have proof they were behind the bridge strike and attacks on their navy... Discussions in Moscow of declaring war on the UK.. Fvck! That would be ww3 right there boys. Hope this isn't true.

The Brit’s have been pushing the envelope big time. I don’t think they trust the germs or the French so they have made some unilateral decisions. You throw in the fact their economy is about to collapse and the Brits may feel like escalation is in their best interest. I think if Moscow has legit proof of nordstream sabatoge by the Brits it could create a pretty significant fissure in nato.
 
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That's close to what the NYT is saying. Putin is the problem. As soon as the West says let's talk, he'll want more & more. Putin needs to take first step.

Tha'ts not what it's saying at all.

It's saying it takes two to tango. That WE need to make the right moves forward. That peace is incumbent upon us as well. Any and all dispassionate and competent editorializing done in good faith recognizes that reality.

(but haha thanks for that laugh vh, you're really something else... a real piece of work. you really made my morning)
 
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Well this may have just escalated to bad. There are reports that Russia is saying they have proof the UK hit nordstream 1 and 2 and they have proof they were behind the bridge strike and attacks on their navy... Discussions in Moscow of declaring war on the UK.. Fvck! That would be ww3 right there boys. Hope this isn't true.
They also say Ukraine has dirty bombs they are going to use. They don't. Net, your Putin-flavored rambling is also BS.
 

The Brit’s have been pushing the envelope big time. I don’t think they trust the germs or the French so they have made some unilateral decisions. You throw in the fact their economy is about to collapse and the Brits may feel like escalation is in their best interest. I think if Moscow has legit proof of nordstream sabatoge by the Brits it could create a pretty significant fissure in nato.
When are you guys gonna learn. Russia lies, about everything.
 
Well this may have just escalated to bad. There are reports that Russia is saying they have proof the UK hit nordstream 1 and 2 and they have proof they were behind the bridge strike and attacks on their navy... Discussions in Moscow of declaring war on the UK.. Fvck! That would be ww3 right there boys. Hope this isn't true.
Line and sinker too.
 
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Putin may have little say in the matter. Ukraine isn't likely to make that huge concession.
That's what we have to hope or all this nonsense was a waste of money and lives. It would suck to have lost soooo much and Russia ends up getting those 4 plus Odessa.... That would be the biggest state dept failure in history.
 
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The Brit’s have been pushing the envelope big time. I don’t think they trust the germs or the French so they have made some unilateral decisions. You throw in the fact their economy is about to collapse and the Brits may feel like escalation is in their best interest. I think if Moscow has legit proof of nordstream sabatoge by the Brits it could create a pretty significant fissure in nato.
I just don't think there is a way Russia hits UK and we don't go full in. We are like brothers who might squabble among ourselves, but you don't mess with the other. The problem is that it looks like Poland is the only other nato country that is itching to get in this fight. Every other nato nation in 1 toe in and 9 out.
 
They also say Ukraine has dirty bombs they are going to use. They don't. Net, your Putin-flavored rambling is also BS.
Just giving out info on Eastern Europe news sites. This isn't vetted but just brought it to the board for discussion. You, obviously, aren't capable of that, so you violently type on your keyboard because someone brought info that isn't even against your opinion. You just disagree with me at this point to disagree.

I'd bet if I said that Russia deployed Nukes to their border you'd find a way to say that I was a Putin lover and Russia doesn't even have nukes or trucks to drive them there if they did. There is litter ali nothing I can say that you won't type out a nonsense response to.
 
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When are you guys gonna learn. Russia lies, about everything.
When are you gonna learn... It doesn't matter if they lie or if they are wrong.... If they declare war on Britain we have ww3. Being huge liars and a thugocracy doesn't stop escalation. If the right people in their government believe it and they get enough votes in their house, or whatever it is, then they will declare war on the UK. They have war hawks in their country like we do. There are 70 yo dudes that regret not fighting the US when they were stronger. I'd hate to start ww3 over a bunch of dudes living in 1984.
 
I just don't think there is a way Russia hits UK and we don't go full in. We are like brothers who might squabble among ourselves, but you don't mess with the other. The problem is that it looks like Poland is the only other nato country that is itching to get in this fight. Every other nato nation in 1 toe in and 9 out.
Well it’s inevitable a clash between the USA/uk nato or whatever is inevitable. Russia is full on now with Iran. Ukraine will not accept any negotiations that don’t include Russia giving back Donbas or Crimea. Putin’s drawn the redline. There’s no real way out at the point. As long as eastern Ukraine is non negotiable the path is inevitable to all out war. It’s a matter of time before some crazy misstep. This over compensation for “appeasement” is going to have far worse consequences I’m afraid
 
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Well it’s inevitable a clash between the USA/uk nato or whatever is inevitable. Russia is full on now with Iran. Ukraine will not accept any negotiations that don’t include Russia giving back Donbas or Crimea. Putin’s drawn the redline. There’s no real way out at the point. As long as eastern Ukraine is non negotiable the path is inevitable to all out war. It’s a matter of time before some crazy misstep. This over compensation for “appeasement” is going to have far worse consequences I’m afraid
Well not with us funding them billions and providing mercs for their army.
 
looking at these faces in the crowd celebrating this joker then, perhaps the greatest manifestations of clown world today as these losers are getting their fills now by creating this misery, death and destruction

potentially dragging the rest of us in



screw these people, they'll reap what they've sown
 
Just giving out info on Eastern Europe news sites. This isn't vetted but just brought it to the board for discussion. You, obviously, aren't capable of that, so you violently type on your keyboard because someone brought info that isn't even against your opinion. You just disagree with me at this point to disagree.

I'd bet if I said that Russia deployed Nukes to their border you'd find a way to say that I was a Putin lover and Russia doesn't even have nukes or trucks to drive them there if they did. There is litter ali nothing I can say that you won't type out a nonsense response to.
Yes, I'm incapable of discussing nonsense wherever it's from.

Then you go off on another far-fetched supposition. You never stop with fantasies. No one takes you seriously.
 
looking at these faces in the crowd celebrating this joker then, perhaps the greatest manifestations of clown world today as these losers are getting their fills now by creating this misery, death and destruction

potentially dragging the rest of us in



screw these people, they'll reap what they've sown
Ronald Reagan says hello.
 
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That's what we have to hope or all this nonsense was a waste of money and lives. It would suck to have lost soooo much and Russia ends up getting those 4 plus Odessa.... That would be the biggest state dept failure in history.
I absolutely agree with that.
 
When are you gonna learn... It doesn't matter if they lie or if they are wrong.... If they declare war on Britain we have ww3. Being huge liars and a thugocracy doesn't stop escalation. If the right people in their government believe it and they get enough votes in their house, or whatever it is, then they will declare war on the UK. They have war hawks in their country like we do. There are 70 yo dudes that regret not fighting the US when they were stronger. I'd hate to start ww3 over a bunch of dudes living in 1984.
What I'm saying is it isn't happening. If you've noticed, Putin's lap dogs have been barking since before their invasion started, they've threatened, beat their chests, double and triple dared us only to have Putin never back up any of their bluster. They do this for PR sake, its a show. They aren't declaring war on anyone other than a small poor country they thought couldn't defend themselves. Oops.
 
Well it’s inevitable a clash between the USA/uk nato or whatever is inevitable. Russia is full on now with Iran. Ukraine will not accept any negotiations that don’t include Russia giving back Donbas or Crimea. Putin’s drawn the redline. There’s no real way out at the point. As long as eastern Ukraine is non negotiable the path is inevitable to all out war. It’s a matter of time before some crazy misstep. This over compensation for “appeasement” is going to have far worse consequences I’m afraid
That is patently absurd. Ukraine needs to finish the isolation of Crimea and then Crimea can become the one and only bargaining chip. Russia doesn't have Donbas to give it back to begin with. Everything will change when Putin is gone and his clock is ticking.
 
looking at these faces in the crowd celebrating this joker then, perhaps the greatest manifestations of clown world today as these losers are getting their fills now by creating this misery, death and destruction

potentially dragging the rest of us in



screw these people, they'll reap what they've sown
You sure love posting things from Putin's propagandists, which is all she is. Why do you continually do that? It makes one wonder.
 
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You sure love posting things from Putin's propagandists, which is all she is. Why do you continually do that? It makes one wonder.

Yeah, you got me. You figured it out.

I'm not just random cat fan posting on the internet; I'm a deeply embedded Ruski working from a Russian troll farm in Montenegro.

It's a CONSPIRACY!!! A C-O-N.... SPIRASEE!
 
Yeah, you got me. You figured it out.

I'm not just random cat fan posting on the internet; I'm a deeply embedded Ruski working from a Russian troll farm in Montenegro.

It's a CONSPIRACY!!! A C-O-N.... SPIRASEE!
I never said that. You're simply pro Putin in this.
 
You've failed to ever show how Zelensky is evil. Please do, I'm glad to learn but you keep claiming it without an iota of support. Putin is evil incarnate so you've set the bar pretty high.

I've never tried to show he is evil, and am not interested in having that conversation, nor am I interested in discourse about Putin's evil.

My point is this: Saddam was evil... so was Qaddalfi, so was/are a lot of the world's leaders. (I'm not interested in discourse about their evil either) It's not our job as global superpower to go around taking them out... it's demonstrably not in our interests, nor was/is it in the interests of the people of the respective countries and regions. When we do/have done that, we have never ameliorated anything, just made situations unarguably significantly worse than they otherwise would've been, otherwise needed to be, by every metric except (some of) our pocketbooks.

We are doing that again now, under the same pretenses and willfully indulgent ignorance about the fundamental nature of the conflict. You think the fight for Ukrainian sovereignty Kievan Rus civil war is worth it: worth the death, worth the destruction, worth the global repercussions, worth the totally ruined lives there and elsewhere, to rid the world of an autocrat and his mafia who won't play ball with the rest of the west the USA. I don't, because it isn't.

And if it were, incidentally, you they wouldn''t require strawman arguments like Putin Supporter! to make their "case."
 
I've never tried to show he is evil, and am not interested in having that conversation, nor am I interested in discourse about Putin's evil.

My point is this: Saddam was evil...
Nope, that's not your point. Your point was that Z is as evil as Putin. Yet you won't defend when questioned b/c you can't. Don't know if you or 5000 is the most ridiculous.
 
Nope, that's not your point. Your point was that Z is as evil as Putin. Yet you won't defend when questioned b/c you can't. Don't know if you or 5000 is the most ridiculous.
Haha, ok vh... you know that's not true, like the vast majority of your posting.

I'm gonna just stick to posting clips which show just how big of a worthless bitch he is, thanks. That's my prerogative.
 
I've never tried to show he is evil, and am not interested in having that conversation, nor am I interested in discourse about Putin's evil.

My point is this: Saddam was evil... so was Qaddalfi, so was/are a lot of the world's leaders. (I'm not interested in discourse about their evil either) It's not our job as global superpower to go around taking them out... it's demonstrably not in our interests, nor was/is it in the interests of the people of the respective countries and regions. When we do/have done that, we have never ameliorated anything, just made situations unarguably significantly worse than they otherwise would've been, otherwise needed to be, by every metric except (some of) our pocketbooks.

We are doing that again now, under the same pretenses and willfully indulgent ignorance about the fundamental nature of the conflict. You think the fight for Ukrainian sovereignty Kievan Rus civil war is worth it: worth the death, worth the destruction, worth the global repercussions, worth the totally ruined lives there and elsewhere, to rid the world of an autocrat and his mafia who won't play ball with the rest of the west the USA. I don't, because it isn't.

And if it were, incidentally, you they wouldn''t require strawman arguments like Putin Supporter! to make their "case."
So you want to call people evil without any support. I view that as bearing false witness. Since the Ukrainians think its worth it, I do as well. How dare you tell those people they should willingly accept serfdom to Russia. Who do you think you are? I question your Christianity constantly in this thread.
 
So you want to call people evil without any support. I view that as bearing false witness. Since the Ukrainians think its worth it, I do as well. How dare you tell those people they should willingly accept serfdom to Russia. Who do you think you are? I question your Christianity constantly in this thread.

Stop trying to manufacture some fight.

Zelly is a worthless little bitch, and he's the same evil Putin is, plundering his people for his own profit... genuinely caring nothing for their lives or well-being, just lip-service.

He knows what to say to you just like Putin knows what to say to his people.

And that's not false witness. 🤔 I'm very comfortable making that assertion. I don't make such claims lightly, like you people seem to do with the incessant name-calling your "arguments" necessitate and indeed are predicated upon.
 
Oh, and "accept serfdom" is a straw man argument. Again, and again, and again.

You can't make your "arguments" without them.
 
Ronald Reagan says hello.
Reagan ran a state with a GDP 10x or more than Ukraine. He didn’t go directly from acting to becoming president and he never played the piano with his dong. Let’s be serious here man. You have the dumbest takes on the internet and that says a lot
 
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