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Russia - Ukraine WAR Warning: Political Discussions

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What a time to be alive...



really need some people of influence with greater foresight and integrity to stand up to these idiots who are cutting off our collective nose to spite our face
 
LOL, you posted a tweet by someone named Steve Hanke.

LOL, Mr. Hanke(y), the Christmas Poo.

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Do you have family in the Russian military or plan to join the Russian army if this devolves to include the US?
I would point how retarted that question is but I think you know. My nephew is still in SF NG group and did 3 tours in Iraq and afghan. I had a young cousin that got out of Ranger battalion just a few months ago. His brother was a Marine who did 2 tours in iraq as a JAG lawyer. My dad served before Vietnam kicked off and brother served in Iraq. Pappaw was on Iwo and 2 great uncles died in Italy. If you think not wanting more people to die makes you a traitor then you need to look in a mirror and think about what you think America stands for and what our morals are.

Learn to think 2 or 3 steps ahead. Do the ole "if this happens... what are the likely outcomes and what are the likely responses of those actions".
 
I would point how retarted that question is but I think you know. My nephew is still in SF NG group and did 3 tours in Iraq and afghan. I had a young cousin that got out of Ranger battalion just a few months ago. His brother was a Marine who did 2 tours in iraq as a JAG lawyer. My dad served before Vietnam kicked off and brother served in Iraq. Pappaw was on Iwo and 2 great uncles died in Italy. If you think not wanting more people to die makes you a traitor then you need to look in a mirror and think about what you think America stands for and what our morals are.

Learn to think 2 or 3 steps ahead. Do the ole "if this happens... what are the likely outcomes and what are the likely responses of those actions".
Sickening these guys who question those in favor of peace. This little group of turds make these disgusting statements and assertions. If you’re not in their little circle just put them on ignore so they can question our patriotism in private.
 
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What is your definition of a war hawk?

To my recollection, no one in here has called for American troops to be deployed to Ukraine, or for a no-fly zone.

If Trump wants to engage in a peace deal, fine. But only an idiot would trust Putin.


We can sleep walk our way into war or we can wake up and realize there are people in our government that desperately want war with Russia and they will lie cheat and steal to get it done.
 
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What is your definition of a war hawk?

To my recollection, no one in here has called for American troops to be deployed to Ukraine, or for a no-fly zone.

If Trump wants to engage in a peace deal, fine. But only an idiot would trust Putin.
Warhawk wants conflict over peace. The attitude is that Ukraine needs to bury Russia. If we consider the consequences of such action that results in a direct confrontation between the USA and Russia eventually. Instead you guys could choose the route of peace. Recognize that Russia has legit security concerns and come up with solutions that leads to a peaceful resolution rather than escalation through the continual armament of Ukraine. In order to do that though you have to think outside of western media which absolutely is war hawkish in nature because that’s what sells.

iraq, Egypt Libya, Syria. The media loves this stuff. The media puts out information before vetting it. I mean the liberal ass NYT and Judith Miller lead pushed the public to support the Iraq war. You guys parrot the media talking points which aren’t to perpetuate peace. They want war.
 
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I'm a Trump fan, moron.
Any “trump fan” would realize the degree of dishonesty in American media and would question what the hell they tell us about anything. You question nothing. It’s all propaganda from our media and you repeat it to a T instead of recognizing its debatable. Think man. What did our media tell you before the Iraq war? You gonna blindly tow the line? Again?
 


We can sleep walk our way into war or we can wake up and realize there are people in our government that desperately want war with Russia and they will lie cheat and steal to get it done.
You complain about accountability with what we give Ukraine and now you complain that we're checking. These aren't combat troops, they are very limited and they are not near the front.

You do give away your info sources this way. Zerohedge huh? Far right libertarian. I've said that of each of you for months.
 
Zelensky is simply saying you can't let Russia get away with aggression simply because you're afraid of nuclear war. First, its irrational, second, allowing Russia to spread influence and territory makes a full scale war more likely, just down the road which could include a nuclear action.

Kicking a can down a road rarely helps anything.

I can't wait to see your posts when this is done. No nukes will have been used, Russia will retain Crimea and Ukraine will retain all the rest of its land. Your response will be sickening and will be something like:

"Thank God Putin was able to stay clear headed and rational in the face of NATO and the US doing everything they could to drag Russia into a full scale world. Thank you Mr. Putin for not falling for it and for saving the world!"
 
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