Russia - Ukraine WAR Warning: Political Discussions
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Surprised the Kerch Strait bridge hasn’t been blown up yet, that would cut off a crucial Russian supply line in the south. All it takes is one air strike, but Russian air defenses may be all over that place
“NATO leaders will approve the deployment of four additional battle groups in Hungary, Romania, Bulgaria and Slovakia at their summit Thursday, US Ambassador to NATO Julie Smith said Wednesday.
She said they are “not just national forces,” saying additional details would be shared on Thursday.
Speaking at an Atlantic Council event, Smith said NATO is in discussions about its medium- and long-term force presence in its eastern flank. “
She said they are “not just national forces,” saying additional details would be shared on Thursday.
Speaking at an Atlantic Council event, Smith said NATO is in discussions about its medium- and long-term force presence in its eastern flank. “
Yes, I saw that, it was also after anonymous said they hacked them. I just don’t believe they’ve had 7000 killed, there haven’t been large, long running battles. It’s essentially been skirmishes by and large.
If Ukrainian numbers were released I would be more likely to believe the Russian numbers. It just feels like propaganda to boost the Wests morale.
My what, I'm have no direct knowledge? My question remains, why do you trust that one as accurate?
How much do you have to boost it when it's obvious that Russia doesn't control the airspace, they are almost totally stalled and we continually get videos of their tanks going bye bye.
Yeah, I am not believing (how can we given the disinformation going around these days) the reports coming out.
Depending on your situation taking prisoners may not be an option. You waste more men and resources taking care of them and that would take a lot of your own forces away from the battlefield. During the Gulf War as our unit was moving in support of other units engaging the Republican Guard we encountered hundreds (maybe more) surrendering Iraqi soldiers which we simply pointed them to our rear (we were not prepared to handle prisoners) making sure they were not carrying weapons and had interpreters to tell them where to go. They were not wanting to fight anymore and were just trying to get out of the war zone.
Russia controls the airspace, Ukraine still has 50 some odd aircraft out of 125 and they aren’t flying while Russian aircraft are still flying.
Im not sure what you consider stalled? They are slowly swallowing the southeastern portion of Ukraine.
Ukraine is fighting and have western backing, it’s a real fight between 2 we’ll equipped sides.
Um, shouldn't Russia have steamrolled them? I'll take the pentagons opinion that Russia is largely stalled. I'm not finding much recent info on Russia controlling the air space.
We don't know for sure, but does it fit with all of the other stuff that doesn't add up to the narrative? We didn't know a thing about Bosnia until at least 10 years after, and the truth there was also different than what either side was spinning. Turned put to be something in between and undiscussed.
I'm no fan of this outlet but it is sourced with at least one guy who should know quite a bit. https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/3/22/has-russias-offensive-really-stalled-on-all-fronts
More positive news in the north via UK MoD:
Russia is still flying sorties, Ukraine isn’t. That is the definition of controlling the airspace.
It's funny that you say it isn't some conspiracy, when in fact it is the definition of a conspiracy. It takes more than one person to "scrub" history "absolutely," so that the history is unanimously devoid of information from all sides except that of those "scrubbing it" as you say.
It isn't what people do to be pleasant. Lol. That's just naive.
The 2nd part of your comment (paraphrased) goes on to say that "no one is doing it to deceive" anyone, when the very definition of hiding all but one side of things, the one you want seen, IS deception. I understand McNamara is the one being disenguous, not you, but you seem to agree with him.
History still teaches that certain events started wars or entered countries/people into certain conflicts, when information tells us that people were already heavily invested in these wars/conflicts from the beginning of conflict or in the build up to it.
WW2- little discussed in history classes is that there were businesses, banks, and politicians in the US that were heavily invested in Hitler's Germany. To the tune of billions of dollars even. The same goes for some similar interests in the UK.
Why? To the less moral, war is good for business. The US president promised that our country would not enter the war, back when following through on political platforms was important to US voters, and wasn't planning on changing that, until 1941 anyway.
In 1941 a lot of political pressure came to bear on that office. American businesses were losing out on the war profits, and there was a golden opportunity waiting for them. Some lost their investment in the 3rd Reich. Some more were about to do so, because in the summer of '41 Hitler went to war with its former ally, Russia, committing 3M troops to the invasion (and pretty much assuring the eventual defeat of Germany).
American businesses needed to get into the war badly, but Germany wasn't taking any of the bait in the Atlantic, so the US turned up the pressure on Japan, and dangled the Pacific Fleet in front of them (against strong military advice) at Pearl Harbor. Ignoring warnings deciphered well in advance by military intelligence of Japanese intentions to attack the base (East Wind, Rain), and needlessly sacrificing many lives, the USA was at war.
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You can call it whatever you want, history, scrubbed history, propaganda, deceit. That doesn't really matter. What matters is the truth about it, and that always takes time to come out OR be realized as the truth
Is that what you hope or what you think? Will you be disappointed if and when Russia loses? It seems like confirmation bias. No matter how many sources say Russia is not doing very well, you and some others want to believe Russian propaganda, no matter how hard you have to dig to find it. Are you rooting for them or something?
I would like to know the truth if we’re going to be sending Billions of dollars in aid, and military equipment that could lead us into WW3. Especially since we know for a fact that many of the same congress members approving that money also receive millions of dollars from Ukraine.
Good and as unfortunate as it is for the Russian soldiers who don't want to be there. If they encircle them, they need to kill all of them. PeriodMore positive news in the north via UK MoD:
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I hope this wakes some people up to just who is funding that collective.
Ignorant posting as usual. Just because someone does not agree with the reporting does not mean they want Russia to win. It is post like this that makes people disagree with you going forward because we know you will only post moronic drivel like this.
Talking about killing them. I was assistant NCOIC of security at a small radar station near the DMZ in Viet Nam. We had several locals from a nearby village doing menial labor on base. One was a 19 year old girl named Bien. Part of her job was cleaning up the security office, so I spoke with her most days. One night the Viet Cong raided their village and killed all who had worked for us. War is easy till it gets personal.
Don't forget Biden's addition. His inability or unwillingness to do his job allowed this to happen. Not to mention those he left to die and let die in Afghanistan.
Yes and no, unfortunately with modern technology (cell phones everywhere) if they surrender and Ukrainian troops just mow them down, they (Ukrainian soldiers) will face war crimes if caught. I understand that people think they are bad for following orders but, some orders are enforced with the threat of death if not followed.
Rock meet hard place.
Bernie, thank you for your service. I try to thank the service members when I see them out and about when I can. I always try and say a little extra for the Vietnam veterens because of the way they were treated when they came home. It was shameful the way you guys/gals were treated.
I normally wouldn't have this stance but with what Russia is doing i simply don't care. Kill them all.
I feel sorry for people who don't realize that this war is political. I don't know how they function in the post internet world.
Listened to a Greek news story today about Azov in Mariupol. He said that they had 15000 troops in the city at the start of the war and have 6000 there today. He wasn't sure how many were dead or how many had evac'd but said the 6000 left don't have the weapons they had when they started and he expected really quick movement in that area in the next couple days.
Thats a lot of men since not long ago Azov totalled only about 1000. Where did he get his info from?
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