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What part of these arguments don’t you understand? No one, not a single person, is comparing Villanova to UK. The only thing I’ve said is many media outlets and announcers commonly refer to Villanova as a blue blood. You are lying to yourself or not paying attention if you don’t recognize that.
For the record, i don’t think nova is a blue blood. I don’t get to control who gets the title and I agree If there’s a debate then you’re prolly not. All I said is people these days call nova a blue blood. None of the above is up for debate because they are facts and my opinion that we ARE NOT a blue blood.
Why do you require our validation ?
You are entitled to your opinion. I have my own. I hate IU and could be easily swayed to remove them from elite status.
But based on my criteria, I cannot.
IU had two titles before Bobby Knight arrived.
They have fallen on hard times, but you can't discount five decades of bball just because they haven't won a title in 3 decades.
Once again, it's more than titles. IU played in the title game in 2002. They have consistently made the tourney. They have had All-Americans.
They are the decline, for sure, but in nearly 80 years of bball, they have been relevant for a large chunk of it.
Look at the entire body of work, not just the past 20 or 30 years.
Why do you require our validation ?
Update, he is a lock for U.K. Looks like Nova’s run of dominance is over and U.K will be back to being the real blue blood instead of new $ Nova. Anything less than a Final Four for UK next year is a big time disappointment.
You guys are the kings of college basketball
I don't need anything from you. You guys are the kings of college basketball despite only winning 1 championship of the last 20. It doesn't matter, you guys are blue bloods -- we are not (in my opinion). There's nothing you can say that would make me think we are a blue blood, I'll have to come to that conclusion on my own.
I think we will be if we can win 2 more championships and make 5 more final fours in the next 10 years. That type of dominance gets you in the club given the rest of Nova's history.
lol you do though. It’s glaringly obvious you come to this board in attempts to get some sort of validation. I wouldn’t say you’re obsessed , but... something is amiss. You guys are on a roll , it’s awesome for your program yet... here you are trying to seek validation from a bunch of Kentucky fans on their message board
You’re essentially a poor mans Uconn/ UF at this point.
Edit- I know you were trying to be a subtle smartass but it’s actually 2 titles in 20 years... how did you put it “in the last 21 championships” lmao ... wtf does that even mean?
I don't need anything from you. You guys are the kings of college basketball despite only winning 1 championship of the last 20. It doesn't matter, you guys are blue bloods -- we are not (in my opinion). There's nothing you can say that would make me think we are a blue blood, I'll have to come to that conclusion on my own.
I think we will be if we can win 2 more championships and make 5 more final fours in the next 10 years. That type of dominance gets you in the club given the rest of Nova's history.
Nova is not going to go to 5 FF's in the next ten years
you guys had a great 3 year run, that is over
until 3 years ago Nova was a distant after thought in the basketball world
with all that talent in your backyard, why did it take JW so many years to win a championship?
With the #1 or #2 recruiting class every year for the last decade, why has UK only won once? It's friggen hard to win, you guys know that. With all of the talent Calipari has, how come he only has one championship? He can blame Derrick Rose for missing that FT, but he still needs to own the fact he only has 1.
I'd be willing to bet the average college basketball fan has no idea what state Villanova is in. That fact alone disqualifies you from blue blood status. Nobody cares. You guys are having an incredible run though. Enjoy it....but remember...UCONN was in your same shoes not so long ago. Now they trash. Garbo.With the #1 or #2 recruiting class every year for the last decade, why has UK only won once? It's friggen hard to win, you guys know that. With all of the talent Calipari has, how come he only has one championship? He can blame Derrick Rose for missing that FT, but he still needs to own the fact he only has 1.
you never answered my question
why did JW underachieve for so many years?
Nova hit lightning in a bottle just like UF did
the cork is off the bottle and your run is over
With the #1 or #2 recruiting class every year for the last decade, why has UK only won once? It's friggen hard to win, you guys know that. With all of the talent Calipari has, how come he only has one championship? He can blame Derrick Rose for missing that FT, but he still needs to own the fact he only has 1.
From 05-09
S16
E8
1st Round
S16
Final Four
Fairly solid stretch for a non-blue blood.
2010-2013 -
32
64
Miss
64
Very Down, no doubt. Couple of knucklehead ball hogs, disrupted chemistry. Though Nova was ranked in the top 5 throughout the 2009-2010 and 2010-2011 seasons.
2014-2018
2014 - Winningest program in basketball. Early exit to UConn who won the championship as you guys remember
2015 - Whole team went basically 0-fer the whole game against NC State
2016- Champions against the hardest path in history (apart from Nova 1985)
2017 - Lost to a solid Wisconsin team
2018 - dominated the ncaas without any doubt.
Couple of bad years, for sure. But it's not like he sucked. Even Cal missed the tourney one year, same as JW.
in the time JW has been at Nova how many FF's does he have
i think he has, correct me if i am wrong
1 FF
2 Championship games (won both) in what about 18 years or so
From 05-09
S16
E8
1st Round
S16
Final Four
Fairly solid stretch for a non-blue blood.
2010-2013 -
32
64
Miss
64
Very Down, no doubt. Couple of knucklehead ball hogs, disrupted chemistry. Though Nova was ranked in the top 5 throughout the 2009-2010 and 2010-2011 seasons.
2014-2018
2014 - Winningest program in basketball. Early exit to UConn who won the championship as you guys remember
2015 - Whole team went basically 0-fer the whole game against NC State
2016- Champions against the hardest path in history (apart from Nova 1985)
2017 - Lost to a solid Wisconsin team
2018 - dominated the ncaas without any doubt.
Couple of bad years, for sure. But it's not like he sucked. Even Cal missed the tourney one year, same as JW.
UK
Impressive.
Have a few more periods like that over the next 50 years and then we will talk about sending you a Blue blood membership card.
I’d settle for another 5 years like our last 5 (winningest of all programs and two ships). Hard to deny people with 5 championships in 3 different decade a blue blood card (as admitted by U.K. fans about Indiana in this thread).
Pretty easy to answer why we don't have more ships under Cal. Higgins! Best team in 15 and best team in 16. Fox team screwed and Towns team screwed by one shitty lil man.With the #1 or #2 recruiting class every year for the last decade, why has UK only won once? It's friggen hard to win, you guys know that. With all of the talent Calipari has, how come he only has one championship? He can blame Derrick Rose for missing that FT, but he still needs to own the fact he only has 1.
If Nova had only started a little bit earlier with their winning ways, they would already be there or at least close.
Once again, it takes more than titles to be a Blue blood.
Time is not on their side, because the past cannot be changed.
And at this point in history the door for entry is pretty much closed for everyone.
Might not be locked and bolted, but it's going to have to be kicked in and Nova hasn't kicked hard enough.
Right, the past definitely can’t change. But people care 100x more about 2010-2018 then they did about 1940-1948.
In 2058 people will care about 2050-2058 more than they care about 2010-2018.
Legends never die, but you think any average fans can tell you anything about ncaa basketball from 1940-1970?
As you get old enough you die off and no one remembers the history enough to even talk about it. This is especially true for games played before the 70s because so few were televised. History will be more impactful in today’s game than in the 40s because we can actually talk about the great moments and relive them because of video.
You're a piece of work, and a punk with it. There were some Florida fans here playing the same game you are about 10 years ago. We rarely see them anymore. You'll be just as scarce soon.As you get old enough you die off and no one remembers the history enough to even talk about it. This is especially true for games played before the 70s because so few were televised. History will be more impactful in today’s game than in the 40s because we can actually talk about the great moments and relive them because of video.
Nice that you leave out the 96 and 98 championships.I don't need anything from you. You guys are the kings of college basketball despite only winning 1 championship of the last 20. It doesn't matter, you guys are blue bloods -- we are not (in my opinion). There's nothing you can say that would make me think we are a blue blood, I'll have to come to that conclusion on my own.
I think we will be if we can win 2 more championships and make 5 more final fours in the next 10 years. That type of dominance gets you in the club given the rest of Nova's history.
Water PoloYou're a piece of work, and a punk with it. There were some Florida fans here playing the same game you are about 10 years ago. We rarely see them anymore. You'll be just as scarce soon.
Of course, they have football to fall back on. What else do you all do? Hockey?
Nice that you leave out the 96 and 98 championships.
Apparently you don’t appreciate what it means to be a blue blood, (yes, I know you said Villanova was not). This comment right here is one of the many things that separate us, the BBN, from the next tier. We know our history, we pass it down and yes...we talk about it and NEVER forgetAs you get old enough you die off and no one remembers the history enough to even talk about it. This is especially true for games played before the 70s because so few were televised. History will be more impactful in today’s game than in the 40s because we can actually talk about the great moments and relive them because of video.
What happened today for you to declare him a lock for us? Just curious because I didn’t see anything new.Update, he is a lock for U.K. Looks like Nova’s run of dominance is over and U.K will be back to being the real blue blood instead of new $ Nova. Anything less than a Final Four for UK next year is a big time disappointment.
I didn’t leave them out because I specified 20 years not 23.
Right, the past definitely can’t change. But people care 100x more about 2010-2018 then they did about 1940-1948.
In 2058 people will care about 2050-2058 more than they care about 2010-2018.
Legends never die, but you think any average fans can tell you anything about ncaa basketball from 1940-1970?
As you get old enough you die off and no one remembers the history enough to even talk about it. This is especially true for games played before the 70s because so few were televised. History will be more impactful in today’s game than in the 40s because we can actually talk about the great moments and relive them because of video.
Exactly because it meets your agenda.I didn’t leave them out because I specified 20 years not 23.
Update, he is a lock for U.K. Looks like Nova’s run of dominance is over and U.K will be back to being the real blue blood instead of new $ Nova. Anything less than a Final Four for UK next year is a big time disappointment.