I posted his lines against a ton of teams. No one can refute the original argument because facts are facts. Much more often than not, he blows his load against legit teams. You are free to not like that and be triggered by it, but it’s objectively true.
For the 1000th time, nobody has laid anything squarely on Reeves! The reading comprehension level on this board is unbelievable. This was a thread about Reeves, but nowhere in the thread was he solely blamed for the loss. There are plenty of threads in which I discuss guys like Edwards and Wagner.
I'm not going back thru 4 pages of posts to find it, so post again if you want - but I haven't seen your irrefutable data. But I digress, 24 points last night was proof he's capable. 22 points in NCAA Tournament game is proof. 37 points on the road vs a 1-seed is proof. His performances against Tennessee last year is proof. I mean, that data is also irrefutable, right?
Except for all those games I've listed where he did get buckets, but it's too convenient for your OP narrative to actually acknowledge those, correct?
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If you take the time to read the original post, you’ll notice that I clearly said “more often than not”, he lays eggs. It is absolutely true, and there’s no argument against it.
LOL!!! You listed multiple "outliers" - I'm not dumb enough to notice your blatant bias here. How are they "outliers" if you have multiple of them listed? There's not a single good performance you're secure enough to give him credit for?
In total seriousness, there's only 4 games you listed that should count as "laying an egg". I don't get why 10 points should be some kind of insult, nor why 8 points in a win should be considered an egg.
Do you understand the meaning of “outlier”? I just wrote that to point out that these are deviations from the norm. So if you want to make a case that it is not true that more often than not he shits his pants against good teams, I wish you the best of luck using those precious few outliers.
Am I arguing with a 10-year-old? Are you serious right now?
I have a much, much better grasp on what "outlier" means than you do on what "irrefutably" means...
It’s completely inefficient basketball. There’s not a basketball guru in the world that would say shooting 7/25 from the field and 3/17 from three is playing well. If you are actually counting this game as a good one for him, then there’s no reason to continue a dialogue.
Then there's no reason to continue, because you are irrefutably hating on the kid for absolutely no reason at all. You just simply can't get over the K-St game. Games against legit opponents where he scored double digits are "eggs" - you don't know basketball. Some of those shots he missed down the stretch, which were basically desperation attempts, are being held as damning evidence against him - get out of here. He had 27 points. He had next to no help from teammates scoring the ball, a la Wagner, Edwards, Mitchell.
If you took the time to read through the thread, you would find plenty of other people that are not calling a 7/25, 3/17 3PT (6/17, 2/11 3PT in 2nd half) a solid night. Those are atrocious shooting numbers, and a good deal of those shots were wide-open.
He’s 1 for 1 so far in laying an egg against good competition. Let’s see what happens against what might be a couple decent mid majors, and then some more ranked teams.
I think that's all any of us are saying. And for reference, if Reeves laid an egg the other night, I don't want to know what we call Wagner and DJs performance.
Trust me, there's no shortage of posters on this message board that don't know squat about basketball. And truth be told, I'm sure you and I can actually agree on that...
24 points on 25 shots and 17 3PT attempts is god-awful. If you distribute some of his shot attempts over the course of the entire game to people like Shepard and Dillingham and Tre Mitchell, we win going away.
I think his issue is that he isn't good enough to be the focus of the offense.
There's obviously no way to prove that, so it's just wild speculation. Give Reed the ball more, he might've just turned it over more like he did late in the game. Same to Rob, and his step-back corner airball should count as a turnover as well. I'd rather have Reeves attempting a shot than Reed and Rob driving wildly into traffic turning the ball over, or Adou attempting a 3, or Burks attempting a 3, or based on the game, DJ and Edwards attempting anything
I’m certainly not going to argue that those guys didn’t make critical mistakes, but that’s exactly why I qualified what I said with distributing his shots to others over the course of the “entire game.” When you’ve got a dude who goes 4/5 and another 6/12 and Tre Mitchell who took only 4 shots, no way should a dude jack up 17 threes and make three of them.
Do I forsee, or even hope, Reeves attempts 20+ shots per game this season? Absolutely not. But if this team is going to have success, at least at the rate BBN is craving, then Reeves needs his shots. But the bigger concern is that, again if this team is going to have the success BBN wants, DJ and Edwards have to get going.
I don’t think Wagner necessarily needs to get going. I think Shepherd and/or Dilly can take his minutes and run with them. And I think if Dilly can stay on tue court, he is a more complete scorer than Reeves. He is capable of doing what Reeves tries to do. That’s not to say that he won’t have off games also, but NBA teams are salivating over what he just did.
Now I'm a Dilly fan, and as of now, I'm impressed by him. But to be fair, he had what....really just a 4-minute display, not a full game. Again, tons of talent and high expectations, but he had what, 12 points in 90 secs? What about the other 14 minutes he played?
All I can tell you is that if Dilly takes 25 shots and 17 threes - and I’m not advocating that anyone should do that - he scores a lot more than 24 points.
Sure maybe, but that's speculation. What's not speculation is he didn't score in the 2nd half. His last made shot was with 4:53 secs left in the 1st half.
Awfully hard to score in the second half when Reeves takes 17 shots and Wagner takes 6. Those dudes took 68% of the shots. Dilly took two shots in the half.
And the ones he did take weren’t even close to going in. Plus he committed ridiculous fouls. The fact he didn’t get more shots in the second half is totally on him and him alone.
