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[M4CAT]

The pitcher from Japan blows my mind, I read it will take $100M to sign him, or more, and he is 5'10" tall. His stats were great in Japan, but no way in hell would I pay that kind of money on a pitcher that size, would have to be a real outlier to be effective in MLB today.

The posting fee on top of whatever salary Yoshinobu Yamamoto agrees to and the bidding war with big market spenders will price him well out of the Reds range. According to MLB.com the fee would be broken down to 20% of the first $25 million plus 17.5% of the next $25 million and 15% of the total guaranteed value exceeding $50 million. It's ashamed for the Reds chances since he has 6 pitches in his repertoire and not a fly ball pitcher which would work out great in GABP so long as he doesn't struggle adjusting to MLB and not end up being a joke like Daisuke Matsuzaka turned out to be.

 

[kywildcatsfannumber1]

Cubs, Reds Have Discussed Shane Bieber With Guardians

The Cubs and Reds are among the many teams who've discussed a potential Shane Bieber trade with the Guardians. Read more at MLB Trade Rumors.

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[kywildcatsfannumber1]

Reds add reliever Pagán on 2-year deal

CINCINNATI -- Shoring up the bullpen with relievers able to pick up multiple innings was one of the offseason priorities for the Reds. On Friday, before getting to the Winter Meetings, they added one. Right-handed reliever Emilio Pagán and the Reds agreed to terms on a two-year, $16 million deal

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[kybloo92]

Rob Dibble was just terrible for the Reds wasn't he? If you can bring back Bauer on a cheap deal, give you the ace of the staff that he was here just a couple years ago you take it. If it doesn't work out, cut him. A low-risk, high-reward signing. I don't give a damn about the perception of the league so long as the Reds win.

Fans like you are probably rooting for Wander Franco to be cleared so long as the Reds could presumably get a steal for a talented player.

 

[kywildcatsfannumber1]

This is who I really wanted. I think Nick Martinez is a massive signing! Postseason experience and can even start games if needed.

Reds Sign Nick Martinez

Dec. 1: The Reds have formally announced their deal with Martinez. Interestingly, GM Nick Krall tells Reds beat writers that …

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[kywildcatsfannumber1]

The bullpen on paper looks so much better now.

Closer Diaz
Set-up man with Pagan & Martinez
Lefty specialists with Moll & Young
Still have Sims, Gibaut, whatever Antone can give you and Cruz, Richardson & Spiers.

Hoping they can add an ace to lead the pitching staff. Still high on the Reds young SP with Greene, Abbott, Ashcraft, Lodolo, Williamson & Phillips but durability and inexperience for a run in October are concerns.

Adding bullpen help was most important. Still a lot of development to be done with this young team but I am starting to get really excited about 2024 after what most of the rookies did in '23.

 

[CardHack]

I wonder if Martinez was a stop gap if the asking price was too high for Bieber or Glasnow or if the Reds keep going with their pursuit of those two even with Martinez now in the fold.

 

[trueblujr2]

I wonder if Martinez was a stop gap if the asking price was too high for Bieber or Glasnow or if the Reds keep going with their pursuit of those two even with Martinez now in the fold.

I think getting either Bieber or Glasnow along with the other two, then shoring up the OF with a Right handed power guy would solidify this team as a legit contender. I like Martinez ability to step in for the inevitable injuries to the starters. Would also allow for them to spot start him so some of the others can skip an occasional start to stay fresh and prolong their effectiveness during the season.

 

[CardHack]

I think getting either Bieber or Glasnow along with the other two, then shoring up the OF with a Right handed power guy would solidify this team as a legit contender. I like Martinez ability to step in for the inevitable injuries to the starters. Would also allow for them to spot start him so some of the others can skip an occasional start to stay fresh and prolong their effectiveness during the season.

Supposedly the asking price on Glasnow includes prospects AND a current starter so I guess that means you'd have to shed Ashcraft or Williamson; I can't see the Reds parting with Green under his current control or Abbott or the Rays entertaining the thought of Lodolo given his questionable health. Of the current starter pool with the Reds I am highest on Ashcraft; his hard sinker/cutter stuff is a better recipe for GABP than the flyball pitchers you have with the others.

 

[cole854]

Pitchers like Martinez are a dime a dozen at a much lower price. This was a waste of $26M, but given his experience, hopefully he eventually can step in when Ashcraft inevitably lives up to his BP role.

 

[cole854]

Of the current starter pool with the Reds I am highest on Ashcraft; his hard sinker/cutter stuff is a better recipe for GABP than the flyball pitchers you have with the others.

Ashcraft has been horrible at GABP.

 

[CB3UK]

Love the Martinez signing. Reds making some moves boys!

 

[kybloo92]

I wonder if Martinez was a stop gap if the asking price was too high for Bieber or Glasnow or if the Reds keep going with their pursuit of those two even with Martinez now in the fold.

I don't think it has anything to do with the pursuit of a SP in terms of Cease, Bieber or Glasnow. This move was predominantly made to beef up the bullpen. He still will be behind Greene, Abbott, Ashcraft, Lodolo, Williamson & Phillips before turning to him as a starter.

 

[kybloo92]

Pitchers like Martinez are a dime a dozen at a much lower price. This was a waste of $26M, but given his experience, hopefully he eventually can step in when Ashcraft inevitably lives up to his BP role.

A waste of $26 million and hasn't even thrown a pitch yet? Typical cole854 ignorance that doesn't cease in the offseason.

 

[kybloo92]

I think getting either Bieber or Glasnow along with the other two, then shoring up the OF with a Right handed power guy would solidify this team as a legit contender. I like Martinez ability to step in for the inevitable injuries to the starters. Would also allow for them to spot start him so some of the others can skip an occasional start to stay fresh and prolong their effectiveness during the season.

I'd like to see them sign JD Martinez to a short term contract. Other power hitting options in the OF, Soler, Teoscar Hernandez, Lourdes Gurriel Jr. Also Eddie Rosario or Joc Pederson if they go with a lefty. If they can do this with another ace, then absolutely they can legitimately contend.

 

[kywildcatsfannumber1]

MLB Insider: Reds trade candidate open to long-term extension with acquiring team

The Cincinnati Reds have been linked to Shane Bieber this offseason, but recent revelations may make a trade with the Cleveland Guardians even more likely.

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Would much rather get Shane Bieber than overpay Tampa Bay with a load of prospects for a banged up, $25 million pitcher to sit on the shelf. Bieber has a much better track record and Glasnow has never topped 120 innings in a season. He pitched 120 for the 1st time in his career in '23. He is not an innings eater. The Rays are asking too damn much and unless they want to sweeten the pot with Randy Arozarena to play RF, then I wouldn't trade with them as their asking price is delusional. They better get real or face the real possibility of getting stuck with a $25 million pitcher to walk in free agency or get low-balled for less when he inevitably gets hurt and can only give a team 10 starts at most as a rental. Get Bieber in a sign and trade extension like Sonny Gray. Bieber will make $12.2 million in his final year for a pitcher of his caliber, Reds have to do this somehow.

 

[kybloo92]

MLB Insider: Reds trade candidate open to long-term extension with acquiring team

The Cincinnati Reds have been linked to Shane Bieber this offseason, but recent revelations may make a trade with the Cleveland Guardians even more likely.

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Would much rather get Shane Bieber than overpay Tampa Bay with a load of prospects for a banged up, $25 million pitcher to sit on the shelf. Bieber has a much better track record and Glasnow has never topped 120 innings in a season. He pitched 120 for the 1st time in his career in '23. He is not an innings eater. The Rays are asking too damn much and unless they want to sweeten the pot with Randy Arozarena to play RF, then I wouldn't trade with them as their asking price is delusional. They better get real or face the real possibility of getting stuck with a $25 million pitcher to walk in free agency or get low-balled for less when he inevitably gets hurt and can only give a team 10 starts at most as a rental. Get Bieber in a sign and trade extension like Sonny Gray. Bieber will make $12.2 million in his final year for a pitcher of his caliber, Reds have to do this somehow.

The Reds would not be able to retain either Arozarena or Glasnow. I think both are a bit overrated anyways. Randy is a great leader, plays hard defensively but predominantly a LF that hits between .250-.260, Glasnow's numbers are great during the limited time he is on the field. Think the Reds are better off getting a RF power bat or a LH power hitter for the everyday lineup so Bell doesn't have to get cute with his lefty/righty lineup splits every game. All for Bieber. Trading with Cleveland over the years has paid off for the Reds all the way back to Sean Casey, Graves & Phillips.

 

[CB3UK]

Bieber fever?

 

[kywildcatsfannumber1]

Here's an article with some updates on McLain, Lodolo, Ashcraft & Marte who got injured in the Dominican in Winter Ball if anyone curious about their status. Arizona is going to try their hand at the Ricky Karcher Experience now.

Reds Notes: McLain, Marte, Ashcraft, Lodolo

An excellent rookie season for Reds infielder Matt McLain was brought to a sour end by an oblique strain. He didn't …

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Diamondbacks Sign Ricky Karcher To Minor League Deal

The D-Backs have signed reliever Ricky Karcher to a minor league contract, according to Matt Eddy of Baseball America. The Snakes …

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[dave5164]

I look for the Reds to trade for a top starter like Bieber, Glasnow, or Cease. We continue to hear India's name in trade talks to go along with a couple of youngsters to get a good starting pitcher. Then next season could look like Greene, Lodolo, Abbott, Ashcraft, and then Bieber, Glasnow, or Cease. That would be a strong starting 5 plus you have Nick Martinez that can be a starter along with Williamson, Phillips, and others down in the Minor Leagues. The relievers are starting to look strong with Closer Diaz, Pagan, Martinez, Moll, Young, Sims, Gibault, Antone, and others. If the Reds can pickup a solid power hitting outfielder the Reds should be contenders in the NL Central.

 

[kybloo92]

Cincinnati Reds' Nick Krall on possible Trevor Bauer return: 'Don't see that as an option'

Trevor Bauer, the only pitcher to win a Cy Young Award in Cincinnati Reds history, is a free agent and has shown interest on social media in a return

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[jameslee32]

Health is one of the few concerns for this young Reds team. Not all that concerned about the Reds being competitive in the Central when healthy.

Considering they seem to play best with small ball, power is not too much of a concern as well afaic. Potentially they have 4 or 5 guys with enough power to generate runs or hit 30 HR's.

I trust management much better now as well with Krall in charge. Feels like the new GM, Brad Meador, won't have an opportunity to screw up the team the way Williams or Jocketty did. Hope I'm right about that one.

 

[M4CAT]

Cincinnati Reds' Nick Krall on possible Trevor Bauer return: 'Don't see that as an option'

Trevor Bauer, the only pitcher to win a Cy Young Award in Cincinnati Reds history, is a free agent and has shown interest on social media in a return

www.cincinnati.com

I guess that makes you happy. They better have a plan in place to fill the void of an ace to lead this team since this is not an option.

 

[M4CAT]

I look for the Reds to trade for a top starter like Bieber, Glasnow, or Cease. We continue to hear India's name in trade talks to go along with a couple of youngsters to get a good starting pitcher. Then next season could look like Greene, Lodolo, Abbott, Ashcraft, and then Bieber, Glasnow, or Cease. That would be a strong starting 5 plus you have Nick Martinez that can be a starter along with Williamson, Phillips, and others down in the Minor Leagues. The relievers are starting to look strong with Closer Diaz, Pagan, Martinez, Moll, Young, Sims, Gibault, Antone, and others. If the Reds can pickup a solid power hitting outfielder the Reds should be contenders in the NL Central.

Some of those pitchers especially the college ones the Reds recently drafted that are closer to the big leagues and the surplus of infielders in the pipeline will make a great package for a rebuilding team for the Reds to go after that top starter and solid power hitting outfielder you and others have been mentioning the Reds adding to this roster. I seriously think this is all they are missing to have a well-balanced roster and just staying healthy, letting the young guys develop then go from there. Also have the Rule 5 Draft to pluck someone.

 

[M4CAT]

Connor Overton re-signed with the Reds.

 

[M4CAT]

I'm not convinced that playing small ball is a sustainable model of success offensively in today's game. Especially with the Reds being the only winning team with a losing home record and the scoring droughts this team had throughout this past season. Yeah EDLC can make it work sometimes with inside the park home runs, stealing bases, Friedl the best bunter in the league, McLain with his speed but when you are dealing with this much youth, just don't know who will significantly improve in year two or hit a slide like India has. Just look at the power in the lineups that advanced in the postseason. It may work on the road and the best way to win games at home in GABP in the most hitter friendly ballpark is to have a well-balanced lineup with legit sluggers. Small ball is wasting the potential power threat of players like CES, Stephenson at his peak and Steer isn't exactly a burner but has plenty of power.

This Reds team will be at its best if the 5 tool players like McLain, EDLC and India reach their potential and become 30/30 guys hitting no less than .270, Steer become a 30 HR/100 RBI hitter, CES will probably be a 40 HR/100 RBI hitter, would do the Reds good to get .300, 20 HRs & 80 RBIs from Marte and similar production of out Benson or just below that as long as Will Benson gets on base the power numbers don't have to be as much from him. They need bounce back seasons from Stephenson and India as well as Friedl repeating his 2023 season. Can't afford a lineup littered of .240 guys from prospects expected to be cornerstone pieces for the future. As far as Fraley, it's time for him to take a lesser role, get an upgrade there and give him DH ABs. If the Reds are expecting him to be the 2nd or 3rd best source of power with his injury history then you will get much of the same as he has his 1st 2 years. Frquent IL stints.

They aren't lacking for hustle guys like EDLC, McLain, Friedl, Benson, India who bring speed to the lineup. Even Marty Brennaman says believes this lineup is missing a slugger in the OF. Think the Reds know this too after the failed signing of Wil Myers last year and a last minute add of Hunter Renfroe that did not work out. A raw power hitter all year seemed to be that 1 missing piece in the lineup. Do it correctly now and won't be in scramble mode at the deadline or overpaying for some rental. Get Martinez to stabilize the lineup or Teoscar Hernandez in here with valuable veteran experience that can bring leadership to a team after losing Votto and likely India. Other FA's can fill this role too. If they make this happen, I'll take this lineup against anyone if they can reach their ceiling.

 

[jameslee32]

I'll just say it one more time for clarity. I hated waiting for the 3-run HR in the Griffey/Dunn years and I hope we never have to see that again with as much speed and gap power as this current group has at its disposal. Trouble is, being ahead of schedule doesn't amount to a hill of beans if the team can't stay healthy.

 

[M4CAT]

I'll just say it one more time for clarity. I hated waiting for the 3-run HR in the Griffey/Dunn years and I hope we never have to see that again with as much speed and gap power as this current group has at its disposal. Trouble is, being ahead of schedule doesn't amount to a hill of beans if the team can't stay healthy.

I hope they never fully adapt to a small ball approach, fully utilize their talents and use their home ballpark to its advantages swinging for the fences, steal bases, let Friedl move runners over bunting and manufacture runs with small ball when necessary. No more record scoring droughts with singles hitters in a band box, this team is way too talented offensively to be a one dimensional offense. They have the pitching depth and prospects with some payroll flexibility to keep adding to this team that I'm not going to borrow any 'trouble' in regards to injuries that haven't happened to the season yet.

 

[kybloo92]

I guess that makes you happy. They better have a plan in place to fill the void of an ace to lead this team since this is not an option.

No but Shane Bieber would.

 

[kybloo92]

I hope they never fully adapt to a small ball approach, fully utilize their talents and use their home ballpark to its advantages swinging for the fences, steal bases, let Friedl move runners over bunting and manufacture runs with small ball when necessary. No more record scoring droughts with singles hitters in a band box, this team is way too talented offensively to be a one dimensional offense. They have the pitching depth and prospects with some payroll flexibility to keep adding to this team that I'm not going to borrow any 'trouble' in regards to injuries that haven't happened to the season yet.

The durability of the pitchers are a huge concern but as of right now, the team has a clean bill of health heading into the spring outside of Marte who is said to be ready before the start of ST. If they have another season filled with injuries I want them to clean house with the S&C training staff. They have a chance to fix this issue if they add a pitcher like Bieber but Glasnow further makes the problem worse.

 

[kybloo92]

Health is one of the few concerns for this young Reds team. Not all that concerned about the Reds being competitive in the Central when healthy.

Considering they seem to play best with small ball, power is not too much of a concern as well afaic. Potentially they have 4 or 5 guys with enough power to generate runs or hit 30 HR's.

I trust management much better now as well with Krall in charge. Feels like the new GM, Brad Meador, won't have an opportunity to screw up the team the way Williams or Jocketty did. Hope I'm right about that one.

Krall is making the right moves to improve this franchise but it will all be measured by results in the postseason. The talent is there, it's time for Bell, the coaching staff and players to take the next step forward in 2024.

 

[M4CAT]

The durability of the pitchers are a huge concern but as of right now, the team has a clean bill of health heading into the spring outside of Marte who is said to be ready before the start of ST. If they have another season filled with injuries I want them to clean house with the S&C training staff. They have a chance to fix this issue if they add a pitcher like Bieber but Glasnow further makes the problem worse.

Again, instead of misconstruing my post into some argument about injuries with this straw man fallacy to divert from the offensive approach on this team, I am not concerned about injuries that haven't even taken place yet. Not sure what any of that has to do with my post you quoted but I'll play along...We don't know how 2024 is going to play out and Krall has a chance to add further add depth to this organization that they may be able to withstand injuries in a way that they haven't in recent years.

This is no longer the beer league softball teams with Kearns, Dunn & Griffey. We saw what a correct approach of power hitters in a lineup looked like in 2021 with Votto hitting 36 & 99 as well as 2 NL All-Star starters with Castellanos & Winker who were on that pace before Winker got hurt and Nick hit 34 & 100. This team is way too talented at their full potential to be a one dimensional offense and they are just a couple pieces in my mind, a veteran ace with postseason experience and a power hitter in the OF.

As far as your injury concern, I'll chalk up 2023 to being about the worst luck you could possibly have in regards to injuries and hope they aren't anywhere close. They will have AAA depth and even further down the pipeline that could debut in 2024 if needed. They all can't be busts, Petty could easily be another Abbott and Spiers got some valuable experience in the AZFL.

 

[CB3UK]

Any good news come out of Redsfest this weekend? Anyone go? I'm strapped for Christmas cash otherwise I would've driven up from Lexington

 

[CB3UK]

Reds could win the MLB Winter Meetings with this blockbuster trade

If the Cincinnati Reds were able to pull off this blockbuster trade, Nick Krall might have his own statue outside Great American Ball Park.

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[kywildcatsfannumber1]

Eduardo Rodriguez has meetings scheduled with teams tonight in the Winter Meetings. MLB Network seems to suggest the Reds are one of those teams. Still want Bieber the most but the TB trade for Glasnow is intriguing if Randy Arozarena is included to shore up the outfield.

 

[kywildcatsfannumber1]

Reds' Mark Mathias: Latches on with Cincinnati

Reds' Mark Mathias: Latches on with Cincinnati

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India could be moved -- to another position

NASHVILLE, Tenn. -- Although rumors to the contrary have existed since last summer, the Reds are not shopping second baseman Jonathan India for trades. President of baseball operations Nick Krall made that crystal clear on Monday during the Winter Meetings. However, Krall has had talks with...

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[CB3UK]

I was thinking it odd when I went and looked into Redsfest stuff how much India was involved. That didn't strike me as something you do with a guy on the trading block.

 

[kywildcatsfannumber1]

Reds Sign Erik González

Infielder Erik González has signed with the Reds, per Jon Heyman of The New York Post. There are no details …

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[CB3UK]

Seems like we've made several depth signings but only 2 big league ones. Bring on the big fish already Krall!

 

[CB3UK]

Draft lottery just wrapped up. Reds get the #2 overall pick? Hell yes! LFG boys!

Guardians win Draft Lottery, securing next year's top pick

NASHVILLE, Tenn. – Cleveland is on the clock. The Guardians were the big winners of Major League Baseball’s Draft Lottery on Tuesday, held at the Winter Meetings for the second straight season, winning the No. 1 pick in the 2024 Draft. It will be the first time Cleveland has selected

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