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Draft lottery just wrapped up. Reds get the #2 overall pick? Hell yes! LFG boys!

Let's hope the Reds do better with this second overall pick than last time they had the #2.
 
2nd pick after finishing above .500 is huge for the Reds especially after getting the 7th pick this year for a 100 loss season in '22. Cleveland far from the worst team getting the 1st pick. Guess MLB finally found a system that will discourage teams from deliberately tanking. Crazy system but works in the Reds favor this time!
 
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Any early projections on who those top picks will be?
There is a SC outfielder in high school with legit power that is projected to go high. PJ Morlando, another name to watch. Also, Cam Caminiti as a two-way player in Arizona if he forgoes his commitment to LSU. Cousin of Ken.
 
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MLB predicting most of the Top 10 picks all coming from college

2024 Draft Pick Predictions
I would be shocked if the Reds are taking a College 1B with the 2nd pick considering they have CES, Steer, all indications seem to point to India there going forward if you listen to Krall after Reds Fest and preserving Tyler Stephenson getting him from behind the plate on occasion.
 
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I would be shocked if the Reds are taking a College 1B with the 2nd pick considering they have CES, Steer, all indications seem to point to India there going forward and preserving Tyler Stephenson getting him from behind the plate on occasion.
The Wake RHP hopefully will be the Reds pick.
 
Another kid if he even makes it to LSU, Konnor Griffin. Will be a big time player if he comes out of HS class of '24 straight to the draft.

 
Don't know anything about these guys but from a numbers standpoint, Brock Bell appears to be the only one that was productive. Wish they held onto that guy they plucked and sent to SF last year, Blake Sabol.

 

This is the 2nd time Candelario's name has come up with the Reds during the offseason. I get the appeal of having some experience and the lineup with another switch hitter but he is predominantly a corner infielder. He had a decent season in '23 with power hitting over 20 bombs & 70 RBIs but his career numbers are nothing to crow about. Still think the Reds are better off getting another outfielder for this role. DH AB's are going to be taken up quite a bit by Stephenson & India next season.
 
I'm all hyped for Arrozarena now that he's been mentioned lol


Also, looks like the Yankees are doing what they do and acquiring Juan Soto from SD. Bastards
 
I got a good chuckle out of the White Sox asking price for Dylan Cease. 4.58 ERA, 1.418 WHIP and demanded Rhett Lowder, Chase Petty, Jay Allen & Alfredo Duno. Hysterical! Maybe you consider making this deal for a sign and trade with at least a 3-year extension for a Corbin Burnes, Shane Bieber caliber ace but Dylan Cease has one great season with a 2.20 ERA in 2022 and the only year close to that was a 3.91 ERA. That kind of production is to sporadic and volatile for the demands the White Sox are asking. Would have to throw in Eloy Jimenez or Benintendi and even then I'm not busting down doors to make that trade for an outfielder always on the shelf and another singles hitter.
 
I'm all hyped for Arrozarena now that he's been mentioned lol


Also, looks like the Yankees are doing what they do and acquiring Juan Soto from SD. Bastards
Randy Arrozarena would be huge for Cincinnati. Randy isn't an unrestricted free agent until 2027. He is exciting and know the players would rally around him. A great leader for the next few years.
 
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I got a good chuckle out of the White Sox asking price for Dylan Cease. 4.58 ERA, 1.418 WHIP and demanded Rhett Lowder, Chase Petty, Jay Allen & Alfredo Duno. Hysterical! Maybe you consider making this deal for a sign and trade with at least a 3-year extension for a Corbin Burnes, Shane Bieber caliber ace but Dylan Cease has one great season with a 2.20 ERA in 2022 and the only year close to that was a 3.91 ERA. That kind of production is to sporadic and volatile for the demands the White Sox are asking. Would have to throw in Eloy Jimenez or Benintendi and even then I'm not busting down doors to make that trade for an outfielder always on the shelf and another singles hitter.
There is probably a reason why teams aren't fooling with them. Duno is young (17) and by far the best catching prospect in the system that is lacking depth at that position in the pipeline. Should be ready to go by the time you would have to think about a permanent move for TS from behind the plate. I would believe Petty & Lowder are untouchable for Krall.
 
I hope they never fully adapt to a small ball approach, fully utilize their talents and use their home ballpark to its advantages swinging for the fences, steal bases, let Friedl move runners over bunting and manufacture runs with small ball when necessary. No more record scoring droughts with singles hitters in a band box, this team is way too talented offensively to be a one dimensional offense. They have the pitching depth and prospects with some payroll flexibility to keep adding to this team that I'm not going to borrow any 'trouble' in regards to injuries that haven't happened to the season yet.
Agreed
 
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Krall and his fetish for infielders. Like I said earlier, I get the appeal for adding a switch hitter to a lineup that needs one but signing another infielder to an already crowded situation causes more problems. At this point Steer has to become an everyday outfielder to make this work.

1B CES, Steer, Stephenson, Candelario, sounds like India too.
2B, McLain, India, Steer
SS EDLC, McLain, Marte
3B Marte, Candelario, Steer, EDLC, India's natural position.
DH Everyone but assume most AB's going to Fraley, Stephenson & India. Now Candelario.
Unless Edwin Arroyo gets traded, very likely he makes his debut in '24.

Of all of the quality LF outfielders they could have signed with Joc Pederson, Michael Brantley, Eddie Rosario, Kevin Kiermaier. Takes a roster spot from someone like Jacob Hurtubise who bats left, plays in the outfield.

In the outfield, the current depth chart lists Benson, Friedl, Steer, Fairchild, Fraley. Fairchild is not good enough for this team. Steer can hit but he is a work in progress defensively in the OF. We hope Benson & Friedl build off a strong 2023 but there's nothing that guarantees that. In fact they could easily regress and Benson can't hit lefties very well. Fraley is productive when healthy but is not very durable throughout the course of a season. It would behoove India to learn the outfield and the Reds give him more of a chance than the mid-season crash course Jim Day said he got last year.

Candelario may end up being a solid player for the Reds. That's besides the point. Rather money be spent to keep players to build around with contract extensions, go towards an ace reliever with should be the priority or adding LH hitters in the outfield.
 
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Krall and his fetish for infielders. Like I said earlier, I get the appeal for adding a switch hitter to a lineup that needs one but signing another infielder to an already crowded situation causes more problems. At this point Steer has to become an everyday outfielder to make this work.

1B CES, Steer, Stephenson, Candelario, sounds like India too.
2B, McLain, India, Steer
SS EDLC, McLain, Marte
3B Marte, Candelario, Steer, EDLC, India's natural position.
DH Everyone but assume most AB's going to Fraley, Stephenson & India. Now Candelario.
Unless Edwin Arroyo gets traded, very likely he makes his debut in '24.

Of all of the quality LF outfielders they could have signed with Joc Pederson, Michael Brantley, Eddie Rosario, Kevin Kiermaier. Takes a roster spot from someone like Jacob Hurtubise who bats left, plays in the outfield.

In the outfield, the current depth chart lists Benson, Friedl, Steer, Fairchild, Fraley. Fairchild is not good enough for this team. Steer can hit but he is a work in progress defensively in the OF. We hope Benson & Friedl build off a strong 2023 but there's nothing that guarantees that. In fact they could easily regress and Benson can't hit lefties very well. Fraley is productive when healthy but is not very durable throughout the course of a season. It would behoove India to learn the outfield and the Reds give him more of a chance than the mid-season crash course Jim Day said he got last year.

Candelario may end up being a solid player for the Reds. That's besides the point. Rather money be spent to keep players to build around with contract extensions, go towards an ace reliever with should be the priority or adding LH hitters in the outfield.
Yeah, I do not get this at all. Just gave a guy $15million to basically play every 3rd day or so. BC in no universe should this guy be taking at bats away from the young nucleus. This is a head scratcher.
 
Lol at Chicago. Fvck that. Rhett is gonna be a big piece for us. Dude is a hoss.
Wondering why they didn't place Lowder anywhere after they drafted him. no winter ball or anything, He hasn't pitched a lick since being signed.
 
Krall and his fetish for infielders. Like I said earlier, I get the appeal for adding a switch hitter to a lineup that needs one but signing another infielder to an already crowded situation causes more problems. At this point Steer has to become an everyday outfielder to make this work.

1B CES, Steer, Stephenson, Candelario, sounds like India too.
2B, McLain, India, Steer
SS EDLC, McLain, Marte
3B Marte, Candelario, Steer, EDLC, India's natural position.
DH Everyone but assume most AB's going to Fraley, Stephenson & India. Now Candelario.
Unless Edwin Arroyo gets traded, very likely he makes his debut in '24.

Of all of the quality LF outfielders they could have signed with Joc Pederson, Michael Brantley, Eddie Rosario, Kevin Kiermaier. Takes a roster spot from someone like Jacob Hurtubise who bats left, plays in the outfield.

In the outfield, the current depth chart lists Benson, Friedl, Steer, Fairchild, Fraley. Fairchild is not good enough for this team. Steer can hit but he is a work in progress defensively in the OF. We hope Benson & Friedl build off a strong 2023 but there's nothing that guarantees that. In fact they could easily regress and Benson can't hit lefties very well. Fraley is productive when healthy but is not very durable throughout the course of a season. It would behoove India to learn the outfield and the Reds give him more of a chance than the mid-season crash course Jim Day said he got last year.

Candelario may end up being a solid player for the Reds. That's besides the point. Rather money be spent to keep players to build around with contract extensions, go towards an ace reliever with should be the priority or adding LH hitters in the outfield.
I get the appeal of a switch hitter, but as we saw with EDLC, these guys typically perform way better from one side of the plate. They may have the mechanics and ability to swing from both sides, but typically they can be ALbert Pujols from one side and Billy Hamilton from the other. Was it Tucker Barnhart who gave up switch hitting because of reasons like that?

I think the Candelario signing indicates a more permanent move to the OF for Steer. Dumb question, but would Marte be a candidate for an OF spot? Would EDLC in CF be stupid? He could seriously chase down some balls with his speed and stride. I'm just spitballin nonsense on a Thursday morning.
 
Wonder if Steer or CES is getting moved for an arm
I hope not too, but of the group of CES, McClain, India, EDLC and Marte, who is the most expendable from a trade standpoint? I don't want to get rid of any of them, but India would be the obvious choice. I think keeping him around and now signing Candelario, either means one or two of that group is getting moved or we are destined for another season of hodge podge lineups where nobody know where they will be playing or hitting from day to day. Do Playoff and championship caliber teams have that much fluctuation and disruption to their lineups on a daily basis? I would really hate to see a guy like Marte moved and replaced with Candelario. He may turn out to be great, but i could just as easily see another Moose situation with that 3 year deal.
 
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I hope not too, but of the group of CES, McClain, India, EDLC and Marte, who is the most expendable from a trade standpoint? I don't want to get rid of any of them, but India would be the obvious choice. I think keeping him around and now signing Candelario, either means one or two of that group is getting moved or we are destined for another season of hodge podge lineups where nobody know where they will be playing or hitting from day to day. Do Playoff and championship caliber teams have that much fluctuation and disruption to their lineups on a daily basis? I would really hate to see a guy like Marte moved and replaced with Candelario. He may turn out to be great, but i could just as easily see another Moose situation with that 3 year deal.
India is an obvious trade piece but he’s not going to acquire a starter the Reds have been looking for by himself.

And maybe the Reds would rather move a CES for Cease then a Lowder or Petty. Just seems like a strange signing that there has to be another deal to move an infielder outside of just India
 
India is an obvious trade piece but he’s not going to acquire a starter the Reds have been looking for by himself.

And maybe the Reds would rather move a CES for Cease then a Lowder or Petty. Just seems like a strange signing that there has to be another deal to move an infielder outside of just India
I just really don't want to see somebody like Marte or CES go off to some other team and become a perennial All-Star career .300 hitter. I mean once they get more experience and development under their belts, an infield of CES, McClain, EDLC and Marte, could very well be the best Reds infield since Perez, Morgan, Concepcion and Rose. I know that's saying a lot, but these new faces are giving Reds fans some hope.
 
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Reds giving money to retreads like they are perennial all stars.. First Martinez, and now Candelario. Steve Balboni is probably next...sheesh.
 
I mean once they get more experience and development under their belts, an infield of CES, McClain, EDLC and Marte, could very well be the best Reds infield since Perez, Morgan, Concepcion and Rose. I know that's saying a lot, but these new faces are giving Reds fans some hope.

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Reds giving money to retreads like they are perennial all stars.. First Martinez, and now Candelario. Steve Balboni is probably next...sheesh.
Seriously, Why are you even a fan? Why do you come in here just to bitch and moan about every single thing the Reds do, or every player that doesn't live up to your lofty expectations game in and game out.

So tell us, if YOU owned the team, what moves would you make? Build us your realistic ideal lineup. Who are you trading for who, what's your rotation look like, what's your infield lineup, who are your Outfielders. then how do you payroll that? Your schtick is getting kinda old in here. Fans who don't give themselves any reason to look forward to something are not real fans.
 
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I assume we're gonna move an INF with this signing
It would seem that way but why would be sign Candelario for more money than India or CES (traded) were going to make in the near future?

Right now it doesn't make sense so there has to be another move made in the coming weeks.
 
It would seem that way but why would be sign Candelario for more money than India or CES (traded) were going to make in the near future?

Right now it doesn't make sense so there has to be another move made in the coming weeks.
Agreed. Just hoping it makes sense once we see what move Krall makes next.
 
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