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How will they rule ??!

  • YES - Qualified

    Votes: 41 82.0%
  • NO - Disqualified

    Votes: 9 18.0%

  • Total voters
    50
  • Poll closed .
I don't think you've actually watched much Vivek. He was on podcast for months before declaring for president. What he was saying was very solid if you are a small government conservative or non crazy libertarian or even a non crazy democrat. He was making legal and economic cases for his thoughts on policy. I'd agree he is using the populist wave to bandwagon on, but he leans much more libertarian on most policies.

He disagreed with Trump on a bunch of stuff but once he knew he couldn't win he said the best way forward was to back Trump.
Banning all social media for teens, Moving voting to 25 unless you serve in the military, A border wall with Canada. Yep, that's a libertarian.

But, compared to the rest of the field. He's the closest you can get to a libertarian.
 
DNC has superdelegates. Those delegates can swing the party regardless of vote. It's how Hillary screwed over Bernie....

True, but those superdelegates are not the majority. Here's what I found via Ballotpedia: "In 2024, there are an estimated 4,672 delegates: 3,933 pledged delegates and 739 automatic delegates—more commonly known as superdelegates." So superdelegates can help you but those superdelegates are NOT the majority.
 
Kamala is getting pumped up by the leftist media. She is their only shot. They bump her out and they lose even more black vote.
The only thing that might lose the black women for the DNC is jumping over Kamala. Jessie Lee Peterson said he doesn't think they can skip her because of this. Too many cities are run by black females now. If they skip her to nominate Newsom.... LOL. Popcorn.
 
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I don't think you've actually watched much Vivek. He was on podcast for months before declaring for president. What he was saying was very solid if you are a small government conservative or non crazy libertarian or even a non crazy democrat. He was making legal and economic cases for his thoughts on policy. I'd agree he is using the populist wave to bandwagon on, but he leans much more libertarian on most policies.

He disagreed with Trump on a bunch of stuff but once he knew he couldn't win he said the best way forward was to back Trump.

I watched EVERY GOP primary debate. Hated Vivek. Didn't care for his policy stances and his attitude. To each their own but I would not be a fan of his if he were nominated for an office.
 
But Trump and Biden aren’t far apart in age. Your implication of an age limit would apply to both. So by default you were talking about both.
Who do you think was so embarrasing, he's being talked about as someone who should step down?





Now, knowing this, who do you think I could be talking about?
 
Banning all social media for teens, Moving voting to 25 unless you serve in the military, A border wall with Canada. Yep, that's a libertarian.

But, compared to the rest of the field. He's the closest you can get to a libertarian.
You've clearly not actually watched him and are just nitpicking quotes to fit your ideas.... like you do with everything. LOL.
 
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True, but those superdelegates are not the majority. Here's what I found via Ballotpedia: "In 2024, there are an estimated 4,672 delegates: 3,933 pledged delegates and 739 automatic delegates—more commonly known as superdelegates." So superdelegates can help you but those superdelegates are NOT the majority.
Yes. I was just saying... If it's close... the superdelegates can swing it how they want and they are the money side of the party so once they make a decision tons of other people are just going to fall in line. The party of democracy after all... LULZ.
 
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At the end of the day, unless Biden refuses to run (and I don't think there is a chance in hell that Jill would support that, unless SHE became the nominee) it's going to be a pretty tall order, at this late date, to replace him.

They could hope that he croaks, but there is no way in hell they want Kamala running, so she'd need a pretty nice golden parachute to go away. I don't think Newsome can win. I think he's shot his wad for this cycle. Honestly, Michelle Obama would probably be their best Hail Mary.
 
I watched EVERY GOP primary debate. Hated Vivek. Didn't care for his policy stances and his attitude. To each their own but I would not be a fan of his if he were nominated for an office.
Fair enough. Just saying his podcast appearances were 1 to 2 hours of open q and a. You get a better feel for someone than in a debate with 8 people on a stage with 20 seconds to answer.
 
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The only thing that might lose the black women for the DNC is jumping over Kamala. Jessie Lee Peterson said he doesn't think they can skip her because of this. Too many cities are run by black females now. If they skip her to nominate Newsom.... LOL. Popcorn.
Yep. They are in a box with her.
 

Have to kind of wonder why Trump didn't hammer back with "I have no idea what he just said BUT...." I laughed when he did that the first time Biden gave an incoherent statement. He should've kept that up.

At the end of the day, unless Biden refuses to run (and I don't think there is a chance in hell that Jill would support that, unless SHE became the nominee) it's going to be a pretty tall order, at this late date, to replace him.

They could hope that he croaks, but there is no way in hell they want Kamala running, so she'd need a pretty nice golden parachute to go away. I don't think Newsome can win. I think he's shot his wad for this cycle. Honestly, Michelle Obama would probably be their best Hail Mary.

Yeah, it's tough for me to see Biden dropping out either. He's wanted to be president his entire life and has the office. He's not going to surrender it. I also don't think Michelle Obama wants anything to do with a campaign. And by all accounts there are tensions between she and the Bidens.

Tonight's debate is also a big win for RFK, Jr. in my opinion. He wasn't on the stage but if he was, he would've been more cogent than Biden at least as an alternative.
 
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It doesn't at all. Educate yourself.
''Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between Man & his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legitimate powers of government reach actions only, & not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should "make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof," thus building a wall of separation between Church & State''-Thomas Jefferson, 1802.


The 'establishment of religion' clause of the First Amendment means at least this: Neither a state nor the Federal Government can set up a church. Neither can pass laws which aid one religion, aid all religions, or prefer one religion over another. Neither can force nor influence a person to go to or to remain away from church against his will or force him to profess a belief or disbelief in any religion. No person can be punished for entertaining or professing religious beliefs or disbeliefs, for church attendance or non-attendance. No tax in any amount, large or small, can be levied to support any religious activities or institutions, whatever they may be called, or whatever from they may adopt to teach or practice religion. Neither a state nor the Federal Government can, openly or secretly, participate in the affairs of any religious organizations or groups and vice versa. In the words of Jefferson, the clause against establishment of religion by law was intended to erect 'a wall of separation between Church and State.' Reynolds v. United States, supra, 98 U.S. at page 164, 25 L.Ed. 244.-Justice Hugo Black





Stone v. Graham, 449 U.S. 39 (1980), was a court case in which the Supreme Court of the United States ruled that a Kentucky statute was unconstitutional and in violation of the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment, because it lacked a nonreligious, legislative purpose. The statute required the posting of a copy of the Ten Commandments on the wall of each public classroom in the state. The copies of the Ten Commandments were purchased with private funding, but the Court ruled that because they were being placed in public classrooms they were in violation of the First Amendment.
 
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My last post tonight. Most of us have known the truth for several years now. I implore those of you who continue to oppose Trump: you saw it. We saw it. It’s now obvious. We all know he’s not running the country. If they would use him as a puppet, why and how could you possibly believe they wouldn’t tamper with votes in 4 major cities to steal a razor thin margin of victory in 4 crucial battleground states?

Wake up!
Dems cheated their ass off last election and most anyone with half a brain knows it. My fear is they will do it again. I just dont think they are going to let Trump back in or anyone for that matter. They have their own anti American agenda going and will dare the American people to do something about their nefarious efforts to remain in power. They are all truly evil IMO and deserve a firing squad.
 
I know at least 2 dozen Trump "voters" and none of them care a wit about displaying the 10 commandments in schools. I mean, nobody ever thought to even bring it up. It's mostly about sound domestic policies.

Issues like Federally mandated abortion, religion in schools, trans rights for minors, ribbons, confederate statues etc. Those are the dominion of the stupid 40 percent (20 for each side)

Normal people don't even THINK about that crap. And since, as the current polls indicate, half or more of American voters support Trump, it's illogical to make a statement that "most Trump supporters" support that nonsense.
 
They don’t want voters picking the nominee. They didn’t just realize Biden is a vegetable.
Unless Trump miraculously beats all the odds and subverts the election manipulation, the Next President will not be there by the will of the voters. He/she/she-he will be essentially planted and in lockstep with the globalist agenda of tyranny.
 
Who do you think was so embarrasing, he's being talked about as someone who should step down?





Now, knowing this, who do you think I could be talking about?
You specifically said there should be an age limit. This age limit would obviously apply to both. Doesn’t matter who you based the need for age limits on. It would disqualify both. You can’t say “Biden is impaired, there should be age limits, well ‘cept for Trump. He’s ok I guess”
 
One of the best ways to improve our government would be for the single-subject amendment to be ratified. The only way that is going to happen though (and the chances are slim and none) would be for a constitutional convention to be called for by 33 state legislatures (and then you'd still need 38 states to ratify it.)

It's a shame, because deficit spending only concerns the citizens of this country. It doesn't bother our government at ALL. In fact, in spite of all the hot air they spew about it, they actually PREFER it.
 
You specifically said there should be an age limit. This age limit would obviously apply to both. Doesn’t matter who you based the need for age limits on. It would disqualify both. You can’t say “Biden is impaired, there should be age limits, well ‘cept for Trump. He’s ok I guess”
Ok, that's fine too. But I was saying it because of how Biden is obv running. As a dementia patient.
 
''Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between Man & his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legitimate powers of government reach actions only, & not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should "make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof," thus building a wall of separation between Church & State''-Thomas Jefferson, 1802.


The 'establishment of religion' clause of the First Amendment means at least this: Neither a state nor the Federal Government can set up a church. Neither can pass laws which aid one religion, aid all religions, or prefer one religion over another. Neither can force nor influence a person to go to or to remain away from church against his will or force him to profess a belief or disbelief in any religion. No person can be punished for entertaining or professing religious beliefs or disbeliefs, for church attendance or non-attendance. No tax in any amount, large or small, can be levied to support any religious activities or institutions, whatever they may be called, or whatever from they may adopt to teach or practice religion. Neither a state nor the Federal Government can, openly or secretly, participate in the affairs of any religious organizations or groups and vice versa. In the words of Jefferson, the clause against establishment of religion by law was intended to erect 'a wall of separation between Church and State.' Reynolds v. United States, supra, 98 U.S. at page 164, 25 L.Ed. 244.-Justice Hugo Black





Stone v. Graham, 449 U.S. 39 (1980), was a court case in which the Supreme Court of the United States ruled that a Kentucky statute was unconstitutional and in violation of the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment, because it lacked a nonreligious, legislative purpose. The statute required the posting of a copy of the Ten Commandments on the wall of each public classroom in the state. The copies of the Ten Commandments were purchased with private funding, but the Court ruled that because they were being placed in public classrooms they were in violation of the First Amendment.
So you think putting the 10 commandments in a room is the same as establishing a religion for the state? LOL
 
At the end of the day, unless Biden refuses to run (and I don't think there is a chance in hell that Jill would support that, unless SHE became the nominee) it's going to be a pretty tall order, at this late date, to replace him.

They could hope that he croaks, but there is no way in hell they want Kamala running, so she'd need a pretty nice golden parachute to go away. I don't think Newsome can win. I think he's shot his wad for this cycle. Honestly, Michelle Obama would probably be their best Hail Mary.
They would have to classify the mainstream media outlets as pornography for all the on air orgasms being had over Michelle If she-he is the nominee.
 
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So you think putting the 10 commandments in a room is the same as establishing a religion for the state? LOL
Neither a state nor the Federal Government can, openly or secretly, participate in the affairs of any religious organizations or groups and vice versa.

Neither can pass laws which aid one religion, aid all religions, or prefer one religion over another.

No tax in any amount, large or small, can be levied to support any religious activities or institutions, whatever they may be called, or whatever from they may adopt to teach or practice religion




Which btw, this was already voted on in 1980. A Kentucky classroom put up the 10 commandments. The supreme court said it violated the 1stA.
 
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