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AGEE11

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Ah yes, exactly how I want my president to sound.
As opposed to dementia induced rambling about nonsense, saying Come on Man! over and over, calling the soldiers defending this nation "stupid bast****", insulting someone who questioned him as fat?

Calling a criminal a criminal and letting the media know what their doing is a crime isn't that bad. In fact, it's called the truth. Biden getting money from a foreign entity like he did through Hunter, is a crime. The media purposefully influencing what is heard during an election cycle, is as well.

So in summary you don't want a president to tell the truth. Ok, that makes good sense.
 

OHIO COLONEL

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Things sure changed over the years. When I was in school, Jr High (7-9th grade) vocational training was required of every student. We had an hour every day all three years. The boys had shop, wood working, metal and some auto repair classes. The girls had home economics, etc.

It worked well. There were vocational tech high schools for those who wanted to go into a trade. Auto repair, plumbing, Heating & AC and on and on. These kids came out of high school trained to go to work. Of course we had the mandatory draft so Uncle Sam had them for two years but they were ready for the work force when the military was behind.

Now we have to get illegals to do most of this because Johnny doesn't know the difference between a wrench and a screwdriver
When I was in H.S. shop, etc wasn't required, but it was there if you wanted to take it. H.S. schools around here now I don't think even offer it anymore. Now there are Vocational Schools for high schoolers. Only Jr and Sr year, but a good alternative if a kid isn't into the whole H.S. thing. Not into history, algebra, etc and has no interest in going to college. Go to a trade school...take something you're interested in...then there are companies (big and small) who then 'recruit' the graduating Seniors for jobs. So many of them start off at a good paying job at the age of 18. Fast forward 4-5 years, moneywise (savings, investment hopefully, maybe a house), no student debt....they're light years ahead of most college graduates (with student loans)....especially those who have a degree in Philosophy or The Arts, etc.
 

cole854

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Many Americans use their religious predilections as a means to their political ideology. When you examine that reasoning you are face with a myriad of questionable positions they espouse. How can one claim to be pro-life and support continual destruction of the environment that sustains life? Capital punishment? Discretionary wars? Denial of healthcare? Actually voting to spend more of our money on machines to kill rather on machines to heal. And even something so basic, so small a hardship by comparison, as wearing a mask when around others? For me the single most incongruous action that illustrates the their psychological capacity to compartmentalize the dichotomy of "faith" and political ideology, is ignoring the biblical command of welcome the stranger. Their "faith" somehow allows for the capacity to accept these opposing positions, the separation of families for strictly political reasons. Certainly there is no biblical command to rip infants from their mothers, although there are such accounts of that happening in the bible. I will always regard that contradiction as a false and smug belief born from pride, something other than noble or virtuous or keeping with words of Christ.

Good try, but your grasp of protecting the sanctity of life is feeble at best. Try again, only this time start and finish with the unborn vs. bringing inanimate objects into play.
 

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Libs jumping on this as a justification for court packing. The horror of enforcing the law!

CNN has agreed to let Toobin take some time off to deal with a 'personal issue'.


If he'd taken care of that personal issue before the call this would've never happened

Now we have to get illegals to do most of this because Johnny doesn't know the difference between a wrench and a screwdriver
It's true. The good news for americans is there are tons of opportunity out there for anyone in a trade.

The market is saturated with college undergraduate degrees and it's getting worse by the second with the diploma farms of only online schools. By contrast anyone with a trade certification can almost name their price.
 

AGEE11

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Many Americans use their religious predilections as a means to their political ideology. When you examine that reasoning you are face with a myriad of questionable positions they espouse. How can one claim to be pro-life and support continual destruction of the environment that sustains life?
Not related whatsoever. Me saying I don't want innocent babies murdered doesn't mean I want the envirnment destroyed. Typical lib deflection.

Capital punishment?
Stupid argument. Someone getting a punishment for committing a crime versus murdering an innocent child that did nothing. Real good logic there.

Discretionary wars?
You realize this is the first time a president hasn't entered us in to a war in DECADES right?

Denial of healthcare?
Denial? Wrong word there, typical lib fear mongering. Replacing a bad healthcare plan is not denial. It's making it better.

Actually voting to spend more of our money on machines to kill rather on machines to heal.
2018 $700 Billion on military. 2017 - $3.5 trillion on healthcare. 3 second google searches. A trillion is more than a billion ya know.

And even something so basic, so small a hardship by comparison, as wearing a mask when around others?
Proof they work? We are mandatory in KY and seeing higher cases every day. If they are so good, why can't we go to church without them, but we can riot without them? How do they prevent spread walking to my table in a restaurant, but not when I sit down?

For me the single most incongruous action that illustrates the their psychological capacity to compartmentalize the dichotomy of "faith" and political ideology, is ignoring the biblical command of welcome the stranger. Their "faith" somehow allows for the capacity to accept these opposing positions, the separation of families for strictly political reasons.
They say unto him, Caesar's. Then saith he unto them, Render therefore unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's; and unto God the things that are God's. Matthew 22:21 Words of Jesus. This was also an answer to politicians who were trying to entrap him. Then went the Pharisees, and took counsel how they might entangle him in his talk. Matthew 22:15

Certainly there is no biblical command to rip infants from their mothers, although there are such accounts of that happening in the bible.
Actually there is. Thou shalt not kill. Exodus 20:13

I will always regard that contradiction as a false and smug belief born from pride, something other than noble or virtuous or keeping with words of Christ.
I usually don't respond to trolls, but as a Christian this post was extremely offensive and a complete fabrication of the truth. There are no contradictions, you are trying to manipulate words and ideas to suit your point. They tried the same to Jesus as I illustrated earlier.
 

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Not related whatsoever. Me saying I don't want innocent babies murdered doesn't mean I want the envirnment destroyed. Typical lib deflection.


Stupid argument. Someone getting a punishment for committing a crime versus murdering an innocent child that did nothing. Real good logic there.


You realize this is the first time a president hasn't entered us in to a war in DECADES right?


Denial? Wrong word there, typical lib fear mongering. Replacing a bad healthcare plan is not denial. It's making it better.


2018 $700 Billion on military. 2017 - $3.5 trillion on healthcare. 3 second google searches. A trillion is more than a billion ya know.


Proof they work? We are mandatory in KY and seeing higher cases every day. If they are so good, why can't we go to church without them, but we can riot without them? How do they prevent spread walking to my table in a restaurant, but not when I sit down?


They say unto him, Caesar's. Then saith he unto them, Render therefore unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's; and unto God the things that are God's. Matthew 22:21 Words of Jesus. This was also an answer to politicians who were trying to entrap him. Then went the Pharisees, and took counsel how they might entangle him in his talk. Matthew 22:15


Actually there is. Thou shalt not kill. Exodus 20:13


I usually don't respond to trolls, but as a Christian this post was extremely offensive and a complete fabrication of the truth. There are no contradictions, you are trying to manipulate words and ideas to suit your point. They tried the same to Jesus as I illustrated earlier.
He/She/It is filthy. Has been and shows he/she/it will be... (Yeah, one of those freaks.)
 

Levibooty

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Not related whatsoever. Me saying I don't want innocent babies murdered doesn't mean I want the envirnment destroyed. Typical lib deflection.


Stupid argument. Someone getting a punishment for committing a crime versus murdering an innocent child that did nothing. Real good logic there.


You realize this is the first time a president hasn't entered us in to a war in DECADES right?


Denial? Wrong word there, typical lib fear mongering. Replacing a bad healthcare plan is not denial. It's making it better.


2018 $700 Billion on military. 2017 - $3.5 trillion on healthcare. 3 second google searches. A trillion is more than a billion ya know.


Proof they work? We are mandatory in KY and seeing higher cases every day. If they are so good, why can't we go to church without them, but we can riot without them? How do they prevent spread walking to my table in a restaurant, but not when I sit down?


They say unto him, Caesar's. Then saith he unto them, Render therefore unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's; and unto God the things that are God's. Matthew 22:21 Words of Jesus. This was also an answer to politicians who were trying to entrap him. Then went the Pharisees, and took counsel how they might entangle him in his talk. Matthew 22:15


Actually there is. Thou shalt not kill. Exodus 20:13


I usually don't respond to trolls, but as a Christian this post was extremely offensive and a complete fabrication of the truth. There are no contradictions, you are trying to manipulate words and ideas to suit your point. They tried the same to Jesus as I illustrated earlier.
Welcome the stranger is so hard to understand for those who claim to be Christian.
 

UKUGA

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Conservatives are for protecting the environment.

However, they don’t believe the earth is our “mother”, which is where the libs go so wrong.

Liberals don’t value man. They value “nature“, and attempt to browbeat society into believing that we must protect the earth and the animals, or else the earth will get mad at us and destroy us through storms, earthquakes, etc.

It’s insane.

We should not intentionally or recklessly abuse the earth, or animals.

However, God created the earth and its resources for man to utilize.

Man has a conscience and free will. The earth and the animals do not.
 

JRCAT14

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Not related whatsoever. Me saying I don't want innocent babies murdered doesn't mean I want the envirnment destroyed. Typical lib deflection.


Stupid argument. Someone getting a punishment for committing a crime versus murdering an innocent child that did nothing. Real good logic there.


You realize this is the first time a president hasn't entered us in to a war in DECADES right?


Denial? Wrong word there, typical lib fear mongering. Replacing a bad healthcare plan is not denial. It's making it better.


2018 $700 Billion on military. 2017 - $3.5 trillion on healthcare. 3 second google searches. A trillion is more than a billion ya know.


Proof they work? We are mandatory in KY and seeing higher cases every day. If they are so good, why can't we go to church without them, but we can riot without them? How do they prevent spread walking to my table in a restaurant, but not when I sit down?


They say unto him, Caesar's. Then saith he unto them, Render therefore unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's; and unto God the things that are God's. Matthew 22:21 Words of Jesus. This was also an answer to politicians who were trying to entrap him. Then went the Pharisees, and took counsel how they might entangle him in his talk. Matthew 22:15


Actually there is. Thou shalt not kill. Exodus 20:13


I usually don't respond to trolls, but as a Christian this post was extremely offensive and a complete fabrication of the truth. There are no contradictions, you are trying to manipulate words and ideas to suit your point. They tried the same to Jesus as I illustrated earlier.
I think we all should give you a hand for having the ability to suffer through the reading of all those Levibooty posts, let alone taking the time to reply to each one.

More power to ya! I have him on ignore.
 

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The second I started hearing Russia BS from Dems the past week in regards to election interference with the Biden laptop is the moment I realized they know they are not going to win this election. It will be the next BS investigation they will use as the reason they lost again just like they did in 2016.
 

CrittendenWildcat

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Conservatives are for protecting the environment.

However, they don’t believe the earth is our “mother”, which is where the libs go so wrong.

Liberals don’t value man. They value “nature“, and attempt to browbeat society into believing that we must protect the earth and the animals, or else the earth will get mad at us and destroy us through storms, earthquakes, etc.

It’s insane.

We should not intentionally or recklessly abuse the earth, or animals.

However, God created the earth and its resources for man to utilize.

Man has a conscience and free will. The earth and the animals do not.
To add to your point: "Save the Earth" is such hubris. The earth has existed for billions of years, and will exist for billions more, long after our carcasses have turned to dust. The earth doesn't need saved, people do.

Also, we act as if the earth's ecosystem is fragile and delicate; it is not. If something gets out of balance, the ecosystem will react and balance itself out. We have seen time and again doomsday predictions about climate change, because scientists take one variable and predict how it will play out, but assume no counterbalancing reaction in our ecosystem.
 

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Lol liberal logic for you.



Absolutely. Before Trump, most politicians were the same they just had a different letter beside their name. Many of these people all get massive campaign contributions from the tech companies too. Guaranteed



Exactly. Also it really doesn't matter that much. Covid comes when it comes. So a states actions just decide if it comes today, tomorrow, next week, or two months from now.




Agree with this in part. But think about it in terms of buying a car or some other item. The price for the item is too much, but the sellers lied by telling you it will eventually prove to be a sound investment. That's false misrepresentation. That's exactly what colleges and society in general did. They lied about the value while schools cranked up the price.

Imo what should happen is student loan debt relief that comes directly from funding that otherwise goes to universities. On campuses across the nation, there are thousands upon thousands of people in administration that make a fortune every year. These schools waste so much money, it's mind-blowing.

Redirect schools funding, cap tuition, and the problem solves itself. Or allow the debt to be discharged in bankruptcy, which achieves the same end.
Liked your last two paragraphs. The bankruptcy discharge actually keeps many institutions/ businesses in a mode of honesty. I do not agree with caps. The buyer bears responsibility for buying. I think they call it due diligence. Of course the free-market should reign in the unscrupulous or defective operators but in education it seems to be allowed. Still, as a consumer you should bear the responsibility of spending your money or not spending your money.

(Edit: maybe the fact that institutions of higher learning are allowed to operate as near monopolies even though they are clear and distinct entities plays that part.)

Determining the need versus the want is the part most who have not, cannot overcome, and where they make decisions that keep them poor. I know several who works at factories and have it on easy street. (My brother-in-law and a few others.) I also know several who work at the same factories that have to put a new set of tires on a credit card due to not having the cash to make the purchase.

Some do not have the faculties to gain higher education's benefit. They do it anyway and go into extreme debt thinking that the piece of paper is all they need for success. THAT is the lie.

Most college's lie about nearly everything to make a dollar. Very few institutions of higher learning or even basic learning are honest. They game the so called system by making their own rules, creating voting blocks, and buying influence. Education is at the bottom of these institutions concerns.

I could go into how hard I fought at 40 years old to tell my college "counselor" what classes I was actually taking versus the ones they "recommended". These two schools are considered conservative. (Northwood University and Tarleton State University.) I took the hardest classes due to wanting to have something I could use. All highly technical instead of elective junk among other classes that would produce nothing.

I do agree with your sentiment and a lot of what you posted. I just needed to expound. (For me.)
 

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The second I started hearing Russia BS from Dems the past week in regards to election interference with the Biden laptop is the moment I realized they know they are not going to win this election. It will be the next BS investigation they will use as the reason they lost again just like they did in 2016.
Its hilarious that they are trying to play off the Hunter Biden revelations as a Russian disinformation campaign, but fail to recognize that they ran with the Steele dossier, which was entirely sourced from Russian disinformation, for years.
 

OHIO COLONEL

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We have seen time and again doomsday predictions about climate change, because scientists take one variable and predict how it will play out, but assume no counterbalancing reaction in our ecosystem.
Of course the 'climate change' crap is Lib/Dems argument, and like you pointed out (rightly) about no counterbalancing....they do the exact same thing when it comes to the economy. Cut taxes.....oh no!....receipts to the gov't coffers will go down! Counterbalance......people spend more money, jobs created, more taxpayers, more money to the gov't in taxes.
 

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Not related whatsoever. Me saying I don't want innocent babies murdered doesn't mean I want the envirnment destroyed. Typical lib deflection.


Stupid argument. Someone getting a punishment for committing a crime versus murdering an innocent child that did nothing. Real good logic there.


You realize this is the first time a president hasn't entered us in to a war in DECADES right?


Denial? Wrong word there, typical lib fear mongering. Replacing a bad healthcare plan is not denial. It's making it better.


2018 $700 Billion on military. 2017 - $3.5 trillion on healthcare. 3 second google searches. A trillion is more than a billion ya know.


Proof they work? We are mandatory in KY and seeing higher cases every day. If they are so good, why can't we go to church without them, but we can riot without them? How do they prevent spread walking to my table in a restaurant, but not when I sit down?


They say unto him, Caesar's. Then saith he unto them, Render therefore unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's; and unto God the things that are God's. Matthew 22:21 Words of Jesus. This was also an answer to politicians who were trying to entrap him. Then went the Pharisees, and took counsel how they might entangle him in his talk. Matthew 22:15


Actually there is. Thou shalt not kill. Exodus 20:13


I usually don't respond to trolls, but as a Christian this post was extremely offensive and a complete fabrication of the truth. There are no contradictions, you are trying to manipulate words and ideas to suit your point. They tried the same to Jesus as I illustrated earlier.
I didn't know he/she/it still posted. Had forgotten the existence. Impressive, or a nutty waste of time, not sure which, that you responded to so much from such.
 

UKUGA

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Also, we act as if the earth's ecosystem is fragile and delicate; it is not. If something gets out of balance, the ecosystem will react and balance itself out. We have seen time and again doomsday predictions about climate change, because scientists take one variable and predict how it will play out, but assume no counterbalancing reaction in our ecosystem.
Agree wholeheartedly with this paragraph.

We even saw recent evidence of how quickly certain “toxins” dissipated during the early phases of the lockdown in March/April when car and air travel was drastically reduced.

Yes, cars, planes and trains emit things that can pollute the environment, but don’t underestimate the environment’s natural ability to remove these “toxins”.
 

UKUGA

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Look at Ivanka. Look at Hunter. Now you tell who you're going to pay $700K.

What’s so stupid with that tweet is that he pays that to her in salary, and then she pays taxes on it.

The Treasury gets its bite whether it comes from him or comes from her.

Libs expose their ignorances every time they make an attack like this.
 
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Levibooty

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Conservatives are for protecting the environment.

However, they don’t believe the earth is our “mother”, which is where the libs go so wrong.

Liberals don’t value man. They value “nature“, and attempt to browbeat society into believing that we must protect the earth and the animals, or else the earth will get mad at us and destroy us through storms, earthquakes, etc.

It’s insane.

We should not intentionally or recklessly abuse the earth, or animals.

However, God created the earth and its resources for man to utilize.

Man has a conscience and free will. The earth and the animals do not.
This rather stupid. Man has free will but woman does not! The Nazis were very utilitarian! This is ignorance steeped in stupid and sweeten with vanity! LOL Actually people, intelligent people are trying to help others understand that actions have consequences. That the continued dumping of trash, garbage, and toxins has an effect over time, that freedom does not exist for those whose bodies are not their domain. I know some who are poorly educated still try to explain the world with their mystical views, try to deny science and empirical evidence, but that doesn't mean the rest of us have to ignore the reality around us just to assuage their fragile egos and lust for authority.