Where in God's name did you get I wanted socialism. I mean, I know you don't use facts to back your arguments, nor read them.
-"America has the best health care in the world."
-"uhm, actually no facts exist to support that statement. In fact every single piece of data shows its failing behind other countries, however, maybe use a system other capalist countries use."
-"That data means you're a commie socialist."
-"what the hell are you even talking about?"
This was our exact conversation. This is why we don't engage. You don't live in reality. You're counter claim was a country whose health care is rated above ours, but still not close to number 1.
Your facts were, hey, at least we're not that turd.
And the whole point is better economics. You have these cartoon level thinking processes. No one wants socialism. Not remotely. The reason everyone has insurance was because the dumbass uninsured were costing the regular insured more money. That's a conservative idea. Make people actually pay for stuff. Your solution was let them pay $5, which that sounds more like socialism. Paying what you can. I mean, that's the level of discourse that comes from you. It's though you don't actually think about the words you say/type.
When you advocate the solution is people just pay what they can, that's socialism. When you claim without fact, our nation has best healthcare, that's socialism, because you put the state above actual fact check. I am arguing for a system where people pay their actual share.
Now the point, is that's not what happened. The point was to make people actually pay and fix the system. It didn't.
It's not liberal or conservative values that are killing this country. It's dumbasses that make claims with out facts backing up their claims.
You're using WHO as an example of why the US has worse Healthcare than other nations LEK. I disagree with that, a large portion of their ranking is ease and speed of service.
Walking into a pharmacy and the pharmacist also prescribing medicine.
I didn't advocate pay what you can, I used an example of my wife's office when you claimed people were going without care.
Stop with the childish insults, if you get your knowledge of the medical position from a documentary or a WHO study then surely you're smart enough to see its a slanted view.
What you fail to understand is Universal Healthcare isn't the scary part. It's what that will lead to. Everyone knew ACA was set up to fail, but once you take that first step there is no going back. The Dems realized that, that's why they rushed it through.