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Mistakes lol. Who makes 17 mistakes, all one sided?
Well... maybe Louisville defensive assignments, but other than that?
See Dion this is what I consider a form of being triggered haha.
This is a completely disingenuous presentation of the situation. Everything Russia did on Putin's orders was to get Trump elected.
The Trump campaign even gave their internal polling data to Russian intelligence for them to use in micro-targeting.
"Manafort’s attorneys did not deny that Manafort gave Kilimnik the data", before warrior posts "false".
Also not true. Both Manafort and Stone were convicted on charges relating to the 2016 campaign and election.
How time flies. Just two weeks ago Fusion GPS's Simpson and Fritsch were on Meet the Press with Chuck Todd to hype their new book on the Steele dossier, where they continued to sell the dossier and Steele as credible with zero pushback from Todd.
According to who? The dirty cops in the IC? If you believe Putin preferred Trump over Hillary that's on you.
Besides, if true, pretty sure Putin is regretting that now. Trumps actions speak for themselves. His administration has been much tougher on Russia than the previous. Hillary would have been a continuation of "The 80s called" crowd.
Regardless, that's still not proof that Trump colluded.
Now tell the rest of the story. The data was publicly available for anyone to seek out.
Oh, my bad. They made false statements about irrelevant subject matter that most everyone else, in any other investigation, would have been given the benefit of the doubt, but Mueller had to give the mob something.
Pretty sure not a single American, Trump campaign or otherwise, was indicted for colluding with Russia. Keep reaching though.
What Manafort was convicted for lying about was these meetings with Russian intelligence to give them the data. What Stone was convicted of lying about was acting as a go-between for Trump and Russian intelligence. Those are absolutely indictments for colluding with Russia, and not "false statements about irrelevant subject matter".
Also, more on this. Not only was the data publicly available to anyone, but according to Manafort, he was unaware of Kilimnik's ties, ties that have still never been proven, by the way. Only alleged, and we know how that works. Take Page and Mifsud for examples.
Mueller confirmed this in his report.
“The investigation did not identify evidence that any U.S. persons knowingly or intentionally coordinated with the IRA’s interference operation."
“The investigation did not establish that members of the Trump campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities.”
Are there any men in black boots in your yard ? Does Tin foil hurt when it pokes your head? Do you eat Borscht for dinner often ? Is your other name " Botman " ? Just curious .
They were unable to establish it because he went to jail for lying about it. Link to the data he shared being publicly available?
I didn't see this posted here yet: That biased Right-Wing Rag Rolling Stone points out how the Horowitz report not only demolished the Steele Dossier, but how "mainstream media" was duped for years to report "fake news" on Trump-Russian collusion. Credit to them for telling the truth.
The key quote: "What Horowitz describes is worse: a story about bad journalism piled on bad journalism, balanced on a third layer of wrong reporting."
https://www.rollingstone.com/politi...N7Kywa6_nc-CCNu8hRiQl0yLNk6ZIefirc0Fy6vO6lvK4
The key quote: "What Horowitz describes is worse: a story about bad journalism piled on bad journalism, balanced on a third layer of wrong reporting."
https://www.rollingstone.com/politi...N7Kywa6_nc-CCNu8hRiQl0yLNk6ZIefirc0Fy6vO6lvK4
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Manafort was not a part of Trumps campaign then, and he gave it Ukrainians.
Manafort was not convicted for anything to do with the election or Trumps campaign.
Stone was convicted for overstating to Congress his interaction with Wikileaks. It’s a joke he was even charged, much less in jail. Especially considering how much lying the FBI and Democrats did.
In which the data was publicly available and Manafort had zero knowledge he was Russian intelligence.
Again, it still hasn't been proven he was Russian intelligence. It's only alleged. They also said Page and Mifsud was Russian intelligence. How'd that work out?
Seriously? He was convicted for lying about being a go between when he really wasn't a go between. That's exculpatory. It doesn't strengthen your argument.
Explain to us rubes in actual policy terms how that for "pawns" they have enacted more opposition to Russia with NATO, Ukraine, Iran, Syria, etc? Extra points for mixing in racism accusations.
Incorrect. The meeting took place on August the 2nd. Manafort was with the campaign until concern about these issues caused his removal on the 19th.
Yes he was. Lying about these meetings.
It's common knowledge, but I chose an author as far left as you, who also sources from the NYT.
The Manafort Revelation Is Not a Smoking Gun
https://www.thenation.com/article/manafort-no-smoking-gun-collusion/
Beshear said the reason he did this is because his faith teaches forgiveness..... What does his faith teach him about, hands that sheds innocent blood?..... The only reason Beshear restored their voting rights. Is because the vast majority of scummy, trashy felons votes democrats. You know, birds of a feather.
Yeah, Mueller was unable to establish a wide spread conspiracy to steal the election because Manafort lied about publicly available polling data and because Stone lied that he had connections to Wikileaks when he did not.
So then you agree it was a crime for the Obama administration and Clinton Campaign to conduct illegal surveillance (spy) on the Donald Trump and his campaign and in turn should be held accountable for those crimes.
That link says only some of the data was public, some wasn't. Opposite of what you're claiming.
Not some, most. And Manafort thought it was being forwarded to Ukrainian oligarchs, not Russian intelligence. The opposite of what your saying
And again, to this day, there's zero proof Kilimnik is Russian intelligence. Also the opposite of what you're saying.
Resistance 2019 - Still falsely labeling people Russian spies to prop up a throughly debunked conspiracy.
It's so 2017.
It's so 2017.
Youre making that up.
Manifort was guilty of stuff he did years ago while Obama was POTUS.
Stone "lied" while being interviewed about nonsense.
Democrats colluded with a foreign Government to get the evidence to lock up manifort
Wasnt Andrea Mitchell sobbing on air on election night after Trump won?
For her to admit this is pretty telling.
Kilimnik, just like Mifsud, has been accused of being Russian Intelligence that interfered in the '16 election even though there's zero evidence to prove it and even though Mueller failed to indict either.
The only people to ever be indicted for meddling in the '16 election are anonymous trolls who will never see the inside of a US courtroom.
The only people to ever be indicted for meddling in the '16 election are anonymous trolls who will never see the inside of a US courtroom.
I'm not. He was convicted of older financial crimes that's true. But he was also convicted of lying about these Russian contacts during the campaign. "Making false statements" in legalese.
From the link: "Rick Gates, Manafort’s deputy on the Trump campaign, described Kilimnik as “a former Russian intelligence officer with the GRU”
Sounds like they knew he was Russian intelligence to me.
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