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Of course they were. This conversation is about the intent of the Founders though, not post-Civil War America. Which was to include everyone in apportionment, even slaves at the allotted 3/5 rate. The 14th just reinforced that and made everyone equal instead of some being worth less.
BS. Canada has the smallest % defense budget of just about an NATO member, like 1.4%. They're US Defense parasites. NZ is toothless. They've long banned US nuke powered ships from docking there.
UK & Oz Land are good allies. But just how are they better than Israel?
Read the Church founders years ago. Saying someone learned from John doesn't automatically give them standing. Judas learned from Jesus himself and still rejected the truth. If you're quoting not from the Bible but from elsewhere so early in a conversation, we'll probably just need to agree to disagree. You've chosen one over the other, and that's your right.
Not a good look that you quote the same ideas that Judaism used to frame early believers in Jesus. Just saying. It's why they created a whole different law (oral law, Talmuds, mishna, etc.) than what was given to Moses.
Then that's where we should end the discussion. Because that "taking the place of" is the sole reason for posting in opposition. That's the ESSENCE of replacement theology.
There are independent branches of Judaism that don't require rejection of Jesus (and yes, they are persecuted by the ones you mention).
Biblical teaching, yes. The ground has grown too muddied to use a blanket " Christian" label for teaching. Have you not seen the changes in many "Christian" doctrines of late? The Bible is enough to guide a believer.
You have to understand the difference between levitical and mosaic. The word is specific that the Levitcal procedures were to be followed by the nation while the temple or tabernacle were in place. Neither the nation nor the dwellings are still in place. The rest of the law remains. It still defines sin and righteousness. Adultery isn't now allowed because there is no temple.
How did Daniel, Abraham, and Enoch faithfully uphold the covenant without a temple? Simple obedience and humility. We can't let the existence or non-existence of a physical building be our excuse not to do the right thing.
There's a reason Jesus as a man did not enter the Most Holy Place in the temple neither before nor after his death, tjough he is the Son of God. The law said it was not allowed.
The old covenant was never completely fulfilled by humans until Jesus, but knowing/trusting God would provide the Lamb and acting faithfully/obediently was credited to them AS righteousness. The leviticsl system did not provide a means to cancel the debt of willful sin that required our death. Only the willing sacrifice of the Son could pay it. There wasn't a single sacrifice listed in the Bible or offering that canceled out sin that was committed on purpose/with full knowledge it was wrong.
THAT sacrifice is the source of "based on better promises" comment by Paul. Had nothing to do with the law being abolished. Had to do with the living example being set for all to see.
By whom? Kamala Harris, in her role as President of the Senate? Maybe she should just acknowledge whichever electors she wants and Trump will never be certified, even if he won.
They changed the law after 2020 so that won’t work.
It's true.
Killed more people than anyone but the dumbest are always pro commie but talk about Hitler.
Our country is beyond stupid and brainwashed.
Don't you know DC is an anomoly that's in the Mountain Time Zone.?
She might be the worst person on tv, and that is saying a lot:
Wanted to comment on this portion separately because it's very important.
The Judeans of the last temple period were NOT keeping the law/ commandments, though. Took me until the last few years to realize that. If they were, then by LAW/covenant they would not have been cast out of the land. God gave His word that it wouldn't happen. So they MUST, of necessity, have been doing something else, for they continued in the ways they had been from BEFORE the 1st century BC.
Do you see that?
The temple and the levitical served its purpose. It pointed to The Lamb in many many ways. Symbolically and legally. It was empty of the ark of the testimony and the lampstand before Jesus was born. They were hidden from the people of that time
I know I waste a lot of time here, but I have no idea why anyone gives joy Reid a millisecond of attention.
At least with someone stupid like Biden or Harris, the dumb shit they say May have an impact. Reid, Olberman, etc. just say stupid shit purely for attention.
I don't know how much easier it can be. Some things are just inherent. For eg, anytime it doesn't say humans, so maybe we should count cats and dogs too? Or all animals?
This kind of foolishness is what you get when you let your opinions drive your facts rather than vice versa.
The best part of all this is watching you fish for someone trying to argue they didn't yet conceive of illegals so you could retort "aha thats why the second amendment doesn't protect modern day guns!" But noone took your bait.
@55wildcat
I thought you would get a laugh at this, my Dad is a great guy, sadly he probably won't be with us in a year or two. But he cracks me up cause we text a lot but about once a month he forgets to get out of our conversation and sends me messages he clearly meant to Google. I will get a message like "pain in my left side by the belt" haha. I'm going to miss that dude.
I thought you would get a laugh at this, my Dad is a great guy, sadly he probably won't be with us in a year or two. But he cracks me up cause we text a lot but about once a month he forgets to get out of our conversation and sends me messages he clearly meant to Google. I will get a message like "pain in my left side by the belt" haha. I'm going to miss that dude.
I know this essentially is pointless, however, the headline and the campaign fuel it can be for The Donald is fire....
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/6-house-dems-vote-gop-condemn-kamala-harris-border-czar-role
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/6-house-dems-vote-gop-condemn-kamala-harris-border-czar-role
I agree but sadly people watch that sh-t. (I don't think anyone is really watching Olbermann. It's just interesting watching someone over the years lose their mind)
Sounds like pop is an awesome guy. Sorry to hear he may not be with you long. Please, for your sake and pops, cherish every minute, phone call, text, and visit. Even after a loved one is gone, building those memories ensures pops will always be here. Yes, I have in the past done similar things with my boys. I deleted the last part of this post as some Karen may complain!
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Which is why i said "Claims to be". We can all see he isn't
killswitch24 gone? That's like a dozen or more aliases just this year. What's he posting as now, @RunninRichie ? Funny how you falslely accuse others of multiple accounts, call them losers, etc........ but idolize and follow a guy around that creates a new alias a week. Two sets of rules, smh.
The hypocrisy knows no bounds. Too funny!
The hypocrisy knows no bounds. Too funny!
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All of the five eyes are deeper in our intelligence than other nations. Israel US is a one way relationship. It is cultural as well.
He also donated to a progressive Democrat pact the very day Biden got inagurated. Looks like Democrat rhetoric ate away at his brain, cost him his life, an innocent citizen's life and almost Trump. Democrats are the extremeists yet they are ALWAYS pointing the finger.
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You stated in your original post on this "people disenchanted with Trump" (paraphrasing) Trump supporters tend to lean more Anti-Covid "Vax" so my whole point originally was he was an alternate for never Trump Republicans. and besides the Covid Vax nonsense is pretty much out the window anymore as an issue.
Guys let’s wait for the FBI and Secret Service to conclude before we jump to any conclusions about the guy who tried to blow Trump’s head off being a lefty.
Dangerous Liberal is redundant
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It isn't House representatives' job to do that, but yes, violent criminals should be deported. The vast majority of what y'all call 'illegals' though, who this conversation about apportionment concerns, has been encountered and processed and is not currently subject to deportation under our laws.
I will answer in two ways:
1) The context of the original comment was asserting that the Church was founded in the 4th century. That is historically incorrect. Whether you believe St Ignatius was a false teacher or not is your opinion, but that quote clearly demonstrates that there were Christians who believed that the Church existed as early as the turn of the first century. Again, you may not accept that is the true Church, but it unequivocally shows that Constantine or whoever did not create it hundreds of years later.
2) Without using extra-Biblical sources how does one even determine what constitutes the Bible? Does any book in the Bible tell you which books constitute the Bible? When St Paul talks about Scripture is he referring to the NT books? If so, how could have been referring to books not even written yet? Essentially, all of the other disagreements are downstream of this. If you cannot prove that the Bible itself says that the Bible is the only source of doctrine, and gives you a list of books which make up the Bible, then the belief in sola scriptura is self-defeating.
I feel that you are mistaking what replacement theology states. Replacement theology states that the Mosaic Law is no longer in force and the new and eternal covenant exists within the confines of the Church (you could extend this to a Protestant understanding of the Church being all believers for the purposes of this discussion). All a Jew has to do to not be "replaced" is accept the Incarnation, Death, and Resurrection of Our Lord and his divinity. Their "place" was not taken. It's still there and will be until they meet their eternal reward. But they can no longer live as if the Old Covenant was not fulfilled and expect to be in the same place their pre-Christ ancestors were in.
Unfortunately they may have a sincere belief in this, but it is incoherent and misguided. You cannot perform Jewish rituals (which all point to the coming of the Messiah) after the Messiah has already come. It's blasphemous at worst and completely nonsensical at best. If there is neither Jew nor Greek in the Kingdom of Heaven, how does that comport with maintaining rituals and beliefs that existed in a time when their was a difference between Jew and Greek. It's an explicit acceptance of Christ with the implicit rejection of him happening at the same time.
Well, in the case of Daniel, the Temple was still to be rebuilt without the Messiah having come. So while he himself could not fulfill the entirety of the Law, it was not impossible for Jews to do so. As to Abraham and Enoch, simple, they were not under the same covenant which we are talking about. The covenant of Sinai is the basis for the OT religion. Prior to that God had given natural law precepts for the Patriarchs to follow. After Sinai, there were legal qualifications for being within Israel. Now that the Temple is gone, it tells us that God no longer wants that system for His people. Trying to force it into the modern context is rejecting God's providence
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