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How will they rule ??!

  • YES - Qualified

    Votes: 41 82.0%
  • NO - Disqualified

    Votes: 9 18.0%

  • Total voters
    50
  • Poll closed .
It gives me goose bumps when I hear it. My heart swells with pride and I always honor the Flag. Scum like you need beware of patriots like me. You are the enemy and the socialistic/communist threat you just accused him of is the nature of the left today not him. Try me little man, I will change your mind in short order guaranteed.

SMH. I guess I’ll entertain you once this week. Just once.

You admittedly get your “news” from this thread.

With that said...

What does any country’s flag stand for? God, this is such a shitty hill to die on. Have some self-respect, my dude. Life exists outside of our country and our planet. Quit being a weirdo and have some fun.
 
Why do you fly an American flag at your American house?

“Acting with respect while the anthem is playing” sounds like some communist stuff. Jesus. Do you even care about our CONSTITUTION?

Oh and - nationalists aside - if you think our national anthem is pleasing to the ear, you should put me on ignore. Straight trash. We should make a new one. Maybe with Drake?
What kind is school board that does not drug test? You admittedly smoking dope and still they let you teach? Me thinks somebody lies.
 
SMH. I guess I’ll entertain you once this week. Just once.

You admittedly get your “news” from this thread.

With that said...

What does any country’s flag stand for? God, this is such a shitty hill to die on. Have some self-respect, my dude. Life exists outside of our country and our planet. Quit being a weirdo and have some fun.
So you have no allegiance to anything but yourself?
 
Great day of sports today.

Rory wins in a playoff
Harvick dominates Texas
Pats/Ravens has been excellent

Can’t believe anyone watches 60 minutes. Even more amazing that Trump acolytes constantly whine about main stream media yet still watch it religiously.
 
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Two geniuses there. Add in 2 more like them and they might be able to do a 2 step calculation without a calculator.
 
This impeachment is nothing more than the dems grasping at their last resort. Drastic times call for drastic measures. This pitiful group they trotted out to run against Trump is woeful at best.

The writing is on the wall and there is going to be 5 more years of Donald. Another SCOTUS judge, many more federal judges, walls, hahahaha!
 
SMH. I guess I’ll entertain you once this week. Just once.

You admittedly get your “news” from this thread.

With that said...

What does any country’s flag stand for? God, this is such a shitty hill to die on. Have some self-respect, my dude. Life exists outside of our country and our planet. Quit being a weirdo and have some fun.

Hey doperbro, take your self-absorbed, disrespectful clown show to another country, or better yet, another planet.

Maybe you can find an extraterrestrial colony of bacteria or something better matched to your level of intelligence that won't be disgusted by your fat, loathsome ass.

You don't deserve the benefits and opportunities of the USA, you sack of shit.
 
@Mashburned : "This Russian schoolgirl spy is great."- Nov 3, 2019 (that's today btw)

Here's some other quotes y'all don't like seeing too just for fun:

Trump on guns - “Take the guns first, go through due process second.”

Trump on healthcare - “If you can’t take care of your sick in the country, forget it, it’s all over. I mean, it’s no good. So I’m very liberal when it comes to health care. I believe in universal health care. I believe in whatever it takes to make people well and better.”
Trump says some stupid things sometimes. Everyone knows this. Get back to me when the policy he puts in place starts reflecting anything remotely as crazy as what Dems are pushing.
 
Great day of sports today.

Rory wins in a playoff
Harvick dominates Texas
Pats/Ravens has been excellent

Can’t believe anyone watches 60 minutes. Even more amazing that Trump acolytes constantly whine about main stream media yet still watch it religiously.
But aren't you kind of doing the same thing by complaining about Republicans while continuing to read and post in a predominantly republican political thread?
 
US Embassy pressed Ukraine to drop probe of George Soros group during 2016 election
https://thehill.com/opinion/campaig...drop-probe-of-george-soros-group-during-2016?

The Obama administration took the rare step of trying to press the Ukrainian government to back off an investigation.

While the 2016 presidential race was raging in America, Ukrainian prosecutors ran into some unexpectedly strong headwinds as they pursued an investigation into the activities of a nonprofit in their homeland known as the Anti-Corruption Action Centre (AntAC).

The focus on AntAC - whose youthful street activists famously wore "Ukraine F*&k Corruption" T-shirts - was part of a larger probe by Ukraine's Prosecutor General's Office into whether $4.4 million in U.S. funds to fight corruption inside the former Soviet republic had been improperly diverted.

The prosecutors soon would learn the resistance they faced was blowing directly from the U.S. Embassy in Kiev, where the Obama administration took the rare step of trying to press the Ukrainian government to back off its investigation of both the U.S. aid and the group.

"The investigation into the Anti-Corruption Action Center (sic), based on the assistance they have received from us, is similarly misplaced," then-embassy Charge d' Affaires George Kent wrote the prosecutor's office in April 2016 in a letter that also argued U.S. officials had no concerns about how the U.S. aid had been spent.

At the time, the nation's prosecutor general had just been fired, under pressure from the United States, and a permanent replacement had not been named.

A few months later, Yuri Lutsenko, widely regarded as a hero in the West for spending two years in prison after fighting Russian aggression in his country, was named prosecutor general and invited to meet new U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine Marie Yovanovitch.

Lutsenko told me he was stunned when the ambassador "gave me a list of people whom we should not prosecute." The list included a founder of the AntAC group and two members of Parliament who vocally supported the group's anti-corruption reform agenda, according to a source directly familiar with the meeting.

It turns out the group that Ukrainian law enforcement was probing was co-funded by the Obama administration and liberal mega-donor George Soros. And it was collaborating with the FBI agents investigating then-Trump campaign manager Paul Manafort's business activities with pro-Russian figures in Ukraine.

The implied message to Ukraine's prosecutors was clear: Don't target AntAC in the middle of an America presidential election in which Soros was backing Hillary Clinton to succeed another Soros favorite, Barack Obama, Ukrainian officials said.

"We ran right into a buzzsaw and we got bloodied," a senior Ukrainian official told me.
 
How the Obama White House engaged Ukraine to give Russia collusion narrative an early boost
https://thehill.com/opinion/white-h...use-engaged-ukraine-to-give-russia-collusion?

The January 2016 gathering, confirmed by multiple participants and contemporaneous memos, brought some of Ukraine's top corruption prosecutors and investigators face to face with members of former President Obama's National Security Council (NSC), FBI, State Department and Department of Justice (DOJ).

The agenda suggested the purpose was training and coordination. But Ukrainian participants said it didn't take long - during the meetings and afterward - to realize the Americans' objectives included two politically hot investigations: one that touched Vice President Joe Biden's family and one that involved a lobbying firm linked closely to then-candidate Trump.

U.S. officials "kept talking about how important it was that all of our anti-corruption efforts be united," said Andrii Telizhenko, then a political officer in the Ukrainian Embassy in Washington tasked with organizing the meeting.

Telizhenko, who no longer works for the Ukrainian Embassy, said U.S. officials volunteered during the meetings - one of which was held in the White House's Old Executive Office Building - that they had an interest in reviving a closed investigation into payments to U.S. figures from Ukraine's Russia-backed Party of Regions.

That 2014 investigation was led by the FBI and focused heavily on GOP lobbyist Paul Manafort, whose firm long had been tied to Trump through his partner and Trump pal, Roger Stone.

Agents interviewed Manafort in 2014 about whether he received undeclared payments from the party of ousted Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych, an ally of Russia's Vladimir Putin, and whether he engaged in improper foreign lobbying.

The FBI shut down the case without charging Manafort.

Telizhenko said he couldn't remember whether Manafort was mentioned during the January 2016 meeting. But he and other attendees recalled DOJ officials asking investigators from Ukraine's National Anti-Corruption Bureau (NABU) if they could help locate new evidence about the Party of Regions' payments and its dealings with Americans.

"It was definitely the case that led to the charges against Manafort and the leak to U.S. media during the 2016 election," he said.

That makes the January 2016 meeting one of the earliest documented efforts to build the now-debunked Trump-Russia collusion narrative and one of the first to involve the Obama administration's intervention.

Spokespeople for the NSC, DOJ and FBI declined to comment. A representative for former Obama national security adviser Susan Rice did not return emails seeking comment.

Nazar Kholodnytskyy, Ukraine's chief anti-corruption prosecutor, told me he attended some but not all of the January 2016 Washington meetings and couldn't remember the specific cases, if any, that were discussed.

But he said he soon saw evidence in Ukraine of political meddling in the U.S. election. Kholodnytskyy said the key evidence against Manafort - a ledger showing payments from the Party of Regions - was known to Ukrainian authorities since 2014 but was suddenly released in May 2016 by the U.S.-friendly NABU, after Manafort was named Trump's campaign chairman: "Somebody kept this black ledger secret for two years and then showed it to the public and the U.S. media. It was extremely suspicious."

Kholodnytskyy said he explicitly instructed NABU investigators who were working with American authorities not to share the ledger with the media. "Look, Manafort's case is one of the cases that hurt me a lot," he said.

"I ordered the detectives to give nothing to the mass media considering this case. Instead, they had broken my order and published themselves these one or two pages of this black ledger regarding Paul Manafort."

"For me it was the first call that something was going wrong and that there is some external influence in this case. And there is some other interests in this case not in the interest of the investigation and a fair trial," he added.

Kostiantyn Kulyk, deputy head of the Ukraine prosecutor general's international affairs office, said that, shortly after Ukrainian authorities returned from the Washington meeting, there was a clear message about helping the Americans with the Party of the Regions case.

"Yes, there was a lot of talking about needing help and then the ledger just appeared in public," he recalled.

Kulyk said Ukrainian authorities had evidence that other Western figures, such as former Obama White House counsel Gregory Craig, also received money from Yanukovych's party. But the Americans weren't interested: "They just discussed Manafort. This was all and only what they wanted. Nobody else."

Manafort joined Trump's campaign on March 29, 2016, and then was promoted to campaign chairman on May 19, 2016.

NABU leaked the existence of the ledgers on May 29, 2016. Later that summer, it told U.S. media the ledgers showed payments to Manafort, a revelation that forced him to resign from the campaign in August 2016.

A Ukrainian court in December concluded NABU's release of the ledger was an illegal attempt to influence the U.S. election. And a member of Ukraine's parliament has released a recording of a NABU official saying the agency released the ledger to help Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton's campaign... (continued)
 
... The other case raised at the January 2016 meeting, Telizhenko said, involved Burisma Holdings, a Ukrainian energy company under investigation in Ukraine for improper foreign transfers of money. At the time, Burisma allegedly was paying then-Vice President Joe Biden's son Hunter as both a board member and a consultant. More than $3 million flowed from Ukraine to an American firm tied to Hunter Biden in 2014-15, bank records show.

According to Telizhenko, U.S. officials told the Ukrainians they would prefer that Kiev drop the Burisma probe and allow the FBI to take it over. The Ukrainians did not agree. But then Joe Biden pressured Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko to fire Ukraine's chief prosecutor in March 2016, as I previously reported. The Burisma case was transferred to NABU, then shut down.

Telizhenko's claim that the DOJ reopened its Manafort probe as the 2016 election ramped up is supported by the DOJ's own documents, including communications involving Associate Attorney General Bruce Ohr, his wife, Nellie, and ex-British spy Christopher Steele.

Nellie Ohr and Steele worked in 2016 for the research firm, Fusion GPS, that was hired by Clinton's campaign and the Democratic National Committee (DNC) to find Russia dirt on Trump. Steele wrote the famous dossier for Fusion that the FBI used to gain a warrant to spy on the Trump campaign. Nellie Ohr admitted to Congress that she routed Russia dirt on Trump from Fusion to the DOJ through her husband during the election.

DOJ emails show Nellie Ohr on May 30, 2016, directly alerted her husband and two DOJ prosecutors specializing in international crimes to the discovery of the "black ledger" documents that led to Manafort's prosecution.

"Reported Trove of documents on Ukrainian Party of Regions' Black Cashbox," Nellie Ohr wrote to her husband and federal prosecutors Lisa Holtyn and Joseph Wheatley, attaching a news article on the announcement of NABU's release of the documents.

Bruce Ohr and Steele worked on their own effort to get dirt on Manafort from a Russian oligarch, Oleg Deripaska, who had a soured business relationship with him. Deripaska was "almost ready to talk" to U.S. government officials regarding the money that "Manafort stole," Bruce Ohr wrote in notes from his conversations with Steele.

The efforts eventually led to a September 2016 meeting in which the FBI asked Deripaska if he could help prove Manafort was helping Trump collude with Russia. Deripaska laughed off the notion as preposterous.

Previously, Politico reported that the Ukrainian Embassy in Washington assisted Clinton's campaign through a DNC contractor. The Ukrainian Embassy acknowledges it got requests for assistance from the DNC staffer to find dirt on Manafort but denies it provided any improper assistance.

Now we have more concrete evidence that the larger Ukrainian government also was being pressed by the Obama administration to help build the Russia collusion narrative. And that onion is only beginning to be peeled.

But what is already confirmed by Ukrainians looks a lot more like assertive collusion with a foreign power than anything detailed in the Mueller report.
 
SMH. I guess I’ll entertain you once this week. Just once.

You admittedly get your “news” from this thread.

With that said...

What does any country’s flag stand for? God, this is such a shitty hill to die on. Have some self-respect, my dude. Life exists outside of our country and our planet. Quit being a weirdo and have some fun.
You don't entertain me ever. You are just a nuisance and a waste of time.

Our flag is a symbol of freedom, justice, the struggle against tyranny, and much more. Yes, there is more than just us but, to embrace that which would destroy the freedoms and life style we enjoy is ignorant and traitorous.

I have self-respect and it is just that that makes me who I am. It is me and "weirdo's" like me who enable "normal" people like you to enjoy the freedoms and life style you do. You are just too dumb or probably more to the point too ignorantly educated to see it.
However, you have that right to be so. So continue to party and I will continue to pray for those children who come in contact with you.

You're welcome.
 
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try just posting a link and not copy/paste the entire article you inbred mouth breather.


Yes, Dwayne, please stop posting articles. We wouldn’t want to run the risk that the lefties actually read something other than a headline and inform themselves.

Also, I agree with the lefties. You all should be embarrassed for watching 60 Minutes. Don’t you realize you’re only supposed to consume news that falls in line with your political bias?


Used to wonder how the left stays so ignorant, but every day we get multiple posts from them attacking other posters for consuming news from various sources, declaring they have certain posters on ignore because all those posters do is provide relevant links to source info and cited articles, etc.
 
You don't entertain me ever. You are just a nuisance and a waste of time.

Our flag is a symbol of freedom, justice, the struggle against tyranny, and much more. Yes, there is more than just us but, to embrace that which would destroy the freedoms and life style we enjoy is ignorant and traitorous.

I have self-respect and it is just that that makes me who I am. It is me and "weirdo's" like me who enable "normal" people like you to enjoy the freedoms and life style you do. You are just too dumb or probably more to the point too ignorantly educated to see it.
However, you have that right to be so. So continue to party and I will continue to pray for those children who come in contact with you.

You're welcome.
Oh boy.... Warrior the martyr has just shown up
 
I don't think John is a true liberal, and probably not a hypocrite. He just gets carried away with his trolling and makes himself look silly sometimes when he thinks he's having a "gotcha" moment. He's fine when he's not trying to be a smart ass.
Yea, maybe, but he really sucks at being a smart ass. He needs a new schtick.
 
This board reminds me of Mark Twain saying: "No amount of evidence will persuade an idiot."
 
As a Canadian, it’s tough to be an asshole. I guess I haven’t really perfected it yet :)
 
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