I though you Bernie bros like @Dionysus444 were against the military industrial complex...now you want us there?
But I agree pulling out to give to an Islamist dictator of turkey is probably a bad idea
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But I agree pulling out to give to an Islamist dictator of turkey is probably a bad idea
Bill, everything you reference is elective medical care. The point didn't sail over my head, I'm just referencing the 95% of healthcare that isn't elective. The market works great with elective treatments, nobody is suggesting that change. No universal coverage for boob jobs! Cancer treatment isn't elective, if you're involved in an accident...that isn't elective. If you have a heart attack or stroke, that isn't elective. "We" may be trying to drive down the cost of medical care but once that cost exceeds your deductible the incentive for the individual to save money is gone.
In our case our MD recommended surgery + chemo. I guess we could have gone the money saving route and just do one or the other but I'm not an MD. I could have done all the research in the world and still not be in a position to question what was recommended. Why would I make any decision other than to pursue the best course of treatment regardless of the cost? And you think your research would put you in a better position to make that decision than the oncologist?
Treatment for accident victims isn't elective and regardless of your personal choices in life...that treatment is going to be rendered regardless of your ability to pay. To try and argue that point is foolish on your part because you know that it's true. You know that hospitals cannot turn away people that come to their ERs. As long as that is true then we have to figure out how it will be paid. You're simply trying to be argumentative and best you have is to reference elective services.
Having no sympathy doesn't mean that society doesn't have to deal with the problems.
Haha.."the people's electoral choices". Didn't those same people put a majority of Dems in the House? Didn't a majority of Americans vote for someone else? What about those choices?
Another day another dem hating children and using then as props
This one is pretty good
The Curious Case of the Incurious Press
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/a...ious_case_of_the_incurious_press_141425.html?
The Curious Case of the Incurious Press
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/a...ious_case_of_the_incurious_press_141425.html?
Agreed that the situation is not ideal, but being in Syria to begin with is not ideal. No one even knows what the hell we are doing there or what we even want to achieve. If we don't know that then its time to leave.
How do we afford the $4T spend on healthcare today?
How can you call $280K or even $85K a rip-off? What is your life worth??? If we are leaving it to market forces to make that decision then the sky is the limit...isn't it?
Nobody in Canada is waiting for essential treatment. Elective or non-emergency treatment...you may wait longer. I too have friends in Canada. I worked for 4 years for a Canadian company and still in regular contact with several of my Canadian counterparts. Have a couple of others I've come to know under different circumstances. One of them had a heart attack last spring. Had bypass surgery the day he was taken to the ER...got a pacemaker a few days later.
President Trump might just be the best stock market timer ever.
He seems to know when to juice the market at critical points.
#MAGA.
Good lord. I referenced those specific elective procedures because those are the ones people can currently shop around for and pay out of pocket, you dunce. And the system works.
Going to need a citation for your claim “95% of healthcare...isn’t elective” if you’re using “elective” to mean you have no choice between procedure and provider. Shopping around doesn’t mean treatment or no treatment. It means finding the best provider. Maybe couple it with an insurance company refunding premiums if you save them costs on a procedure or something.
i honestly have no idea what point you’re even trying to make about emergency care being required. Uh, no shit. It’s required currently. You keep falling back to current deductibles and health insurance plans, and the way things operate as a reason not to change things.
The whole point of this entire conversation was small easy tweaks we could make that would improve the system. “Well we can’t change the system because that’s the system, so we need the government to take over” is just mind numbingly stupid.
You being engrained in this moronic way of thinking is exactly the reason I don’t want the government taking over. No innovation. No incentive to make things more efficient. Just, muh that’s the way it is so at least let me funnel money to my friends.
This would indeed be the optimal solution. Unfortunately society just keeps getting further and further away from it. This is why government has taken over the role, and since government sucks at everything, it will all inevitably collapse. I just hope we can make it another 40 years and I'm good. Probably won't though.
Also, please stop dodging the question. Name on single industry where more direct government involvement has improved things for the consumer.
Regardless of how people feel about rq on this board, his points regarding healthcare are reasonable. I'm not surprised that nobody will engage him in an actual intelligent discussion - par for the course on this board.
News flash - it's possible for someone who doesn't agree with everything you do to have good ideas, too. Sadly, this board is a microcosm of Washington.
News flash - it's possible for someone who doesn't agree with everything you do to have good ideas, too. Sadly, this board is a microcosm of Washington.
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A rip-off in that there is no reason those or any other treatment should cost that much. Could greed be entering the picture?
I'm open to having a conversation as per my posts.
There’s nothing reasonable about starting with the position that the federal government should nationalize healthcare, and dismissing any and every incremental attempt to improve the system.
Well, seeing that her Father was in bed with the military complex that made her family wealthy and powerful, pretty easy to see why she would be against pulling out of that shi$hole part of the world.
It's well documented you have to wait to see a specialist.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.fo...stem-as-it-recovers-from-worst-year-ever/amp/
Crazy theory here (that isn't as crazy as it seems once you really think about it)
We've all heard the audio of Joe Biden admitting to having a prosecutor looking into his son's Ukranian company fired by threatening to withhold US aid (a billiion dollars, if I remember correctly). He even noted that the media he was talking to can call Obama if they doubt what is wanted by the administration.
Now what if Joe said all that just trying to show off for the media in attendance but was really 100% acting on behalf of someone more powerful (Obama, Clintons, NWO, etc) and his son was put ino place simply to hold sway over Joe.
All the corruption was never supposed to come out, but in case it did Biden, by his own words, was already in place to be a fall guy. Now Biden has the unfortunate luck of being in a spot to either expose corruption by those above him (we all know happens when you cross the wrong people) or falling on the sword to protect his masters. I'm thinking Biden will choose the latter and pull out of the race to be the Democratic presidential candidate.
Again, it's a conspiracy, but is it that unbelievable based on all we know about how the left/Swamp/NWO operate? Just a thought....
We've all heard the audio of Joe Biden admitting to having a prosecutor looking into his son's Ukranian company fired by threatening to withhold US aid (a billiion dollars, if I remember correctly). He even noted that the media he was talking to can call Obama if they doubt what is wanted by the administration.
Now what if Joe said all that just trying to show off for the media in attendance but was really 100% acting on behalf of someone more powerful (Obama, Clintons, NWO, etc) and his son was put ino place simply to hold sway over Joe.
All the corruption was never supposed to come out, but in case it did Biden, by his own words, was already in place to be a fall guy. Now Biden has the unfortunate luck of being in a spot to either expose corruption by those above him (we all know happens when you cross the wrong people) or falling on the sword to protect his masters. I'm thinking Biden will choose the latter and pull out of the race to be the Democratic presidential candidate.
Again, it's a conspiracy, but is it that unbelievable based on all we know about how the left/Swamp/NWO operate? Just a thought....
Yes I completely understand what’s going on. Article 2 does not give the president the right to collaborate with foreign governments in order to investigate a political opponent. That is very clear and that transcript alone shows trump abused his power. Secondly, if this has been going on for three years, this investigation by DOJ into Biden (which it hasn’t) then why wasn’t it brought to the attention of congress when trump took office which it didn’t? Exposing crooks means nothing if the law is circumvented to achieve those means. It’s in violation of due process and the president crossed the line. I agree that what it appears what happened concerning the Bidens is sketchy at best. But there is a rule of law in our country and our leader directly asking another leader to reinvestigate his opponent is wholly wrong. I can’t believe you guys condone what the president did and rationalizing it with “Biden is a crook” doesn’t make it right.
On a side note. Trump pulled an Obama to remove our troops from northern Syria in order to allow for a Turkish invasion. Erdogan is MBH. Trump totally put the screws to one of our biggest allies in the region the Kurds. Pulling out in favor of Islamic extremist was another terrible move lately. If he won’t stand with the Kurds why should Israel believe anything he says. Why would he do this? It’s time for his supporters to quit blindly following and time for them to call him out. Makes me think the Turks are threatening him with revealing more impropriety. Wake up folks don’t be on the wrong side of history.
Stop brainwashing kids with Liberal hog wash. Teach them History about how and why this country was formed. Stop teaching kids to hate the best country on the planet
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The average Euro lives no where near that good. Overwhelmingly they live in apartments. You're looking at $1M+ homes.Here's how the average middle class European lives. A picture says a thousand words, and I could use a thousand thousand words to refute your shallow thinking.
We re pulling out??? First I’ve heard of it. We are pulling out of allied territory in Syria. That’s it! We are sending troops and weapons to Saudi Arabia. Does that sound like we are pulling out?
That’s funny. Every time I hear someone complain about the healthcare system here, there is always a conservative with the well thought out, intelligent response “move to Venezuela.”
If your position is that the healthcare system here is fine as is, that’s cool. Stay out of the argument.
That's great.
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That's why I said I'd support tax increases earmarked for those purposes.
You could if we got rid of all the wasted $. Unfortunately, neither party has shown any interest in that.
When I was a building principal, I dropped in a classroom one day. The teacher was teaching world history, specifically about the crusades. He showed a cartoonish video on one of those sites that have educational videos. The video was supportive of muslims. It blamed Christians for the crusades. Didn't say a word about muslims taking Christian holy lands; initially allowing Christians to continue their religious practices only then to force them to accept islam (or die).
I stopped him and corrected the matter. Referred him to materials that would give him the proper information.
Bud, there has never been a more conservative, pro-American educator than me.
Specifically, where does it say he can't do that, and in particular, that he can't investigate US citizens possible illegal dealings with said governmrnts. Thanks.
The Syria situation concerns me. I am all for getting out of the ME completely. But I don't like abandoning a group that have apparently been faithful allies to us.
First time I've seen it talked about in the mainstream. One suspect still on the run.
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