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Agreed: I would also like to see some of Warren's anti-corruption plan implemented. I don't agree with all of it, but there are some good ideas (ban from lobbying for high ranking politicians, corporate boards, release of tax returns for potential candidates).
Thank God you’re just clueless/dumb.
Or else you’d find the nearest bridge to jump from. Actually, I hear Trump’s wall may be high enough to do the trick.
Are you drunk talking to yourself in a mirror or did you miss tagging Plat.
Wouldnt be surprised if Warren pushing this stuff this time bc it's going to take Biden down
Lol, says the guy throwing stones at glass houses. Shut up. You're creaming your pants thinking Trump is going down, when 90% of your liberal should be executed for Treason.
He will never get Mexico to pay for the wall. Well that one is true
So you're admitting that you're a hypocrite now. Good. You live in a glass house. Post settled.
This is the most corrupt group of Dems I've ever seen. I was watching the Cory L hearing the other day and it was nauseating watching the ugly toad Nadler changing the rules to allow his minions to aggressively abuse Cory while demanding that he respect them. Toad gets really testy when some peasant he is grilling doesn't bow and scrape to his highness. You should have seen him with Candace Owens. She really ripped him a new one and I was so proud of her. I hold him in utter contempt. As far as I'm concerned Nadler and Shift are absolute frauds. Most of them are to be honest. But those two are probably the stinkiest of them all..
When I can buy and possess it legally in my state, best believe I’m gonna be getting the finest American weed I can get my hands on. California has the best marijuana in the world. You wouldn’t know that though.
In the meantime, I’ll continue to line my fellow Americans’ pockets...tax free...for some damn good bud. Currently smoking some Rainmaker before I hang it up for the night.
“God” bless the USA.
Is this not a threat? Involving using aid as bribe? They're always guilty of what they accuse.
Ooooh. Trump gonna release a full transcript! Except unless he is doing something stupid like recording calls there are no real transcripts. Himself or some NCS aides might take notes but they aren't going to write down "Trump just threatened aid for Biden investigation". It's Ukraine so they can probably ask Putin for a recording.
Again, platidumb, with the absolute worst takes ever.
I've never seen a human be so wrong, so often, and yet continue to humiliate themselves.
Utterly amazing.
Nice work.
I've never seen a human be so wrong, so often, and yet continue to humiliate themselves.
Utterly amazing.
Nice work.
God damn
Im beginning to this platinum is a troll. No one can seriously be as stupid as he is.
Im beginning to this platinum is a troll. No one can seriously be as stupid as he is.
Beware of Impeaching Trump. It Could Hurt the Presidency.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/24/opinion/ukraine-trump.html
But we should beware that rushing into an impeachment may do long-term harm to the presidency and our national security.
The Constitution vests the president with the authority to conduct foreign policy and the responsibility to protect the nation’s security. A president, even one who is possibly engaging in wrongdoing, must have confidence in the confidentiality of his communications or he will be unable to perform his constitutional duties and our international relations will fall victim to government by committee.
“Of all the cares or concerns of government, the direction of war most peculiarly demands those qualities which distinguish the exercise of power by a single hand,” Alexander Hamilton wrote in Federalist 74.
The framers concentrated these powers in the president so the nation could act effectively in a dangerous world. “That unity is conducive to energy will not be disputed,” Hamilton observed in Federalist 70. “Decision, activity, secrecy and dispatch will generally characterize the proceedings of one man.”
Congressional interference into presidential conversations with foreign leaders would violate Article II. According to Mr. Trump’s critics, the inspector general for the intelligence community can forward any whistle-blower complaint to Congress if it involves a matter of “urgent concern.”
But Congress cannot subject the president to the supervision, control or review of a subordinate officer. As the Supreme Court made clear in a 1926 case, all executive branch officials exist to assist the president in the performance of his constitutional duties. An intelligence officer cannot file a whistle-blower complaint against the president, because the president is not a member of the intelligence community; nor does a presidential phone call with a foreign leader qualify as an intelligence operation. The intelligence community works for the president, not the other way around.
Under the Constitution and long practice, the president alone conducts foreign relations. As Justice George Sutherland wrote for the majority in a 1936 Supreme Court opinion (quoting Chief Justice John Marshall), the president “is the sole organ of the nation in its external relations, and its sole representative with foreign nations.”
Beginning with George Washington’s 1796 refusal to provide the House with the Jay Treaty negotiating record, presidents have claimed the right not just to communicate with foreign leaders but also to keep national security information secret. Thomas Jefferson even expanded executive privilege to protect national security information against the courts in 1807, when he refused to testify in the treason trial of Aaron Burr (Chief Justice Marshall, presiding as trial judge, accepted Jefferson’s claim).
Here, good constitutional structure matches good policy. If Congress could regulate presidential discussions with foreign leaders, presidents and foreign leaders would speak less candidly or stop making the calls altogether. United States foreign policy — approved by the American people at each election — would be crippled.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/24/opinion/ukraine-trump.html
But we should beware that rushing into an impeachment may do long-term harm to the presidency and our national security.
The Constitution vests the president with the authority to conduct foreign policy and the responsibility to protect the nation’s security. A president, even one who is possibly engaging in wrongdoing, must have confidence in the confidentiality of his communications or he will be unable to perform his constitutional duties and our international relations will fall victim to government by committee.
“Of all the cares or concerns of government, the direction of war most peculiarly demands those qualities which distinguish the exercise of power by a single hand,” Alexander Hamilton wrote in Federalist 74.
The framers concentrated these powers in the president so the nation could act effectively in a dangerous world. “That unity is conducive to energy will not be disputed,” Hamilton observed in Federalist 70. “Decision, activity, secrecy and dispatch will generally characterize the proceedings of one man.”
Congressional interference into presidential conversations with foreign leaders would violate Article II. According to Mr. Trump’s critics, the inspector general for the intelligence community can forward any whistle-blower complaint to Congress if it involves a matter of “urgent concern.”
But Congress cannot subject the president to the supervision, control or review of a subordinate officer. As the Supreme Court made clear in a 1926 case, all executive branch officials exist to assist the president in the performance of his constitutional duties. An intelligence officer cannot file a whistle-blower complaint against the president, because the president is not a member of the intelligence community; nor does a presidential phone call with a foreign leader qualify as an intelligence operation. The intelligence community works for the president, not the other way around.
Under the Constitution and long practice, the president alone conducts foreign relations. As Justice George Sutherland wrote for the majority in a 1936 Supreme Court opinion (quoting Chief Justice John Marshall), the president “is the sole organ of the nation in its external relations, and its sole representative with foreign nations.”
Beginning with George Washington’s 1796 refusal to provide the House with the Jay Treaty negotiating record, presidents have claimed the right not just to communicate with foreign leaders but also to keep national security information secret. Thomas Jefferson even expanded executive privilege to protect national security information against the courts in 1807, when he refused to testify in the treason trial of Aaron Burr (Chief Justice Marshall, presiding as trial judge, accepted Jefferson’s claim).
Here, good constitutional structure matches good policy. If Congress could regulate presidential discussions with foreign leaders, presidents and foreign leaders would speak less candidly or stop making the calls altogether. United States foreign policy — approved by the American people at each election — would be crippled.
That's just stupid and bullshit. We already set a precedent with Reagan on Congress intervention of foreign relations. He wanted to funnel arms to cartels and Iran and Congress told him no. He did it anyway through the CIA. Congress was to scared to go after him so they prosecuted everyone that obeyed him. If a president is dealing in his own self interest he isn't doing his job. Things like executive privilege are not in the Constitution and only exist to the extent that scotus and voters can tolerate. When president's like Nixon try to take it to far they get bitch slapped. A president is free to have conversations but should be aware that now the CIA and NSA are always listening and will do their job to protect the country. I would wager the NSA probably has recordings. Trump is used to shady wheeling and dealing where nobody will tell him when he's crossed the line.
His conversations shouldn't be getting dumped to the public. The foreign relations and intelligence committees were given the power to be read in and deal with these things. But the problem now is we no longer have functioning upper levels of government. The President is a walking shitshow. Congress is a group of mouth breathing retards. SCOTUS is a politicized group of geriatrics. Politics is now a mix of reality tv and sports entertainment. It's pretty damn sad.
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You missed the real point, status Quo for you though.
You're right, I could not know. Keep on choking my friend, me and people like me will keep the country running. Don't worry, we will tell you who to vote for. Now, get back to being in the FOG.
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Shhhhhh, go back to sleep little one, Trumps got your life.
Ooooh, False, and that has you guys worried.
Democrats accuse the President of eating the forbidden cake while their hands and faces are visibly covered with icing from the same cake.
https://www.foreign.senate.gov/imo/...cutor of Ukraine on Mueller investigation.pdf
https://www.foreign.senate.gov/imo/...cutor of Ukraine on Mueller investigation.pdf
Wait, what? Didn't you just a couple of post up say there were no recordings or transcripts of Trumps calls? Do you even think Bro?
Lol. I feel sorry for you.
Hunter Biden got kicked out of the navy for smoking crack and then lands a $600k yr job on Ukraine's energy sector board with no experience. And that isn't even the tip of the iceberg considering his relationship with the Chinese.
Guy, get some help. You're losing it. I hope you don't own any guns and live near a school.
Precedent is all a progressive has. They will do anything to create it. Damn the constitution...
I see the marching orders are to call the transcript fake. Even though no one has seen the transcript yet.
Democrats are children. Ask for something over and over, then when you get what you were asking for, claim that’s not what you wanted. Makes perfect sense why their current leaders are a little Swedish girl, some twink from Florida who is scared of guns, and women who can barely string a sentence together (Pelosi because she’s either drunk or has dementia, and AOC because she’s an idiot).
Democrats are children. Ask for something over and over, then when you get what you were asking for, claim that’s not what you wanted. Makes perfect sense why their current leaders are a little Swedish girl, some twink from Florida who is scared of guns, and women who can barely string a sentence together (Pelosi because she’s either drunk or has dementia, and AOC because she’s an idiot).
Pure trash. Feel for the guy. It seems you can only make mistakes if you’re a democrat or liberal mouthpiece. Otherwise, you could be crucified for what you said when you were 8.
Omar lies her ass off, spews antisemitic hate, hates America and gets a pass for everything she does. I loathe identity politics.
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https://www.newsweek.com/robert-mueller-donald-trump-obstruction-justice-1344593
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...ey-wrote-a-memo-a-month-after-trump-fired-him
I remember when notes really mattered to your team.
I hope he postpones releasing the tapes a few times just to tighten the tourniquet that he has around their brains a bit more.
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