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How will they rule ??!

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With any republican President wants don't matter, it's an inevitability. Republicans create recessions and Democrats clean up the mess. The only thing Trump could do to delay it a year or two is to bend over to China. He would have to cancel all the tariffs and beg them to resume imports.
Your team has had the House for a while now and the power to do something and can't even pass a budget. You should totally send Nancy a firmly worded email.

Then again you were under the false assumption Obama had spending going down when he left and refused to acknowledge being proven wrong. What Vox does to you low-T guys should be criminal.
 
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Read a few articles since posting.. Wisconsin apparently lost 200,000 Dem votes because of voter fraud. I don't know how true that is, most of these publications seemed to be left-leaning.

They went on to interview a Black women with 5 kids who had 72 hours to get her ID in order, because it expired. And while I'm sure she's an upstanding citizen who just had too much on her plate... it's still her own fault for not realizing it sooner.

What does it say about the two parties, if Republicans have no problem getting their shit in order, but 200,000 democrats couldn't?
Counterpoint: That is why they are Democrats, so they are never at fault or accountable for anything.
 
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Because if they eliminate the electoral college, states like Kentucky will be irrelevant.
States like Kentucky already are irrelevant since it always goes red. Three states, Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania, determined the last election and will determine this one. Electoral college votes should be proportional, not winner take all. Let the small states keep their oversized representation which was the intent of the EC, but let the blue votes in Kentucky and the red votes in California be counted.
 
On average, the S&P 500 has returned 2.5% after a yield-curve inversion in the three months after the episode, while it has gained 4.87% in the following six months, 13.48% a year after, 14.73% in the following two years, and 16.41% three years out, according to Dow Jones Market Data.

Nice purchase opportunity.

The reason markets improved was due to government spending and quantitative easing. Trump will probably push for a stimulus package focused on infrastructure or as i believe he is doing he wants to strike a big deal with China in trade, Hong Kong, Taiwan and North Korea that will act like a stimulus. All of that will be on the table. Past gains in the market though were based on Keynesian principles. There’s still a lot more to mortgage Dems in the house will try to block but maybe trump could grease a few districts. Idk but look for a major move in the next month

Btw more correction needs to happen before you jump in and buy right now.
 
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States like Kentucky already are irrelevant since it always goes red. Three states, Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania, determined the last election and will determine this one. Electoral college votes should be proportional, not winner take all. Let the small states keep their oversized representation which was the intent of the EC, but let the blue votes in Kentucky and the red votes in California be counted.
It's TRUE that Kentuckys electoral votes dont count for much but they do count. You are against winner take all in the EC but are for winner take all in a popular vote. Doesn't make sense. NYC alone would cancel out KY in a popular vote. You want NYC to decide everything?
 
Not going to speak for Dion, but as a person that is more liberal than conservative on most issues, I would be all for this. While I do think the majority of Americans already have IDs, there are certainly some that don't for whatever reason. I live in a state that does voter ID and have no problems with it. In my area, it is enforced. There was one year I forgot my wallet, went to vote, and had to go home to get my ID. If there are people that couldn't afford it, they should get it free of charge, but 100% have to show it every election
And that's what I said in my original post. Someone was complaining about libs and voter IDs and I posted I was fine with it as long as no one has to pay to get them because payment should never be a requirement to vote. No one is too poor to vote. So provide everyone an ID and it's fine. The left really isn't all crazy about voter ID, it's a narrative made up by the right to sell widespread voter fraud as a scare tactic.
 
You are against winner take all in the EC but are for winner take all in a popular vote. Doesn't make sense.
What does this mean? What is an alternative to winner take all in the popular vote in a two person race? I'm for keeping the EC and making it proportional, the popular vote is already proportional by nature...

NYC alone would cancel out KY in a popular vote. You want NYC to decide everything?
I'm specifically talking about keeping the EC so small states like KY keep their oversized representation, just making the votes proportional so everyone's votes are heard. As I said, the Republicans in California and the Democrats in Kentucky.
 
With any republican President wants don't matter, it's an inevitability. Republicans create recessions and Democrats clean up the mess. The only thing Trump could do to delay it a year or two is to bend over to China. He would have to cancel all the tariffs and beg them to resume imports.
No I'm asking you the question...do you want a recession.

The reason I ask is bc you come on here everyday posting talking points but you have absolutely no clue what you are talking about.

I've stated several times I've been against the tariffs. And oddly enough they are the same as international economic policy plan of that as Bernie and warren... protectionist. Surely you knew this, right? The difference is you blindly agree with theirs. Tell me the economic specifics of why?

Also the yield curve inversion always happens months before a recession so the talk of recession is unfounded at the moment and it's a ploy by pundits or politicians to panic voters. A yield curve inversion along the 2 and 10 yr spread has happened before the last 7 recessions...so we arent in one or even close if I was to bet. However, we have already had atleast three inversions so just bc one happens doesnt mean a recession and the economy has already weathered production slow downs and bounced back.

Regardless, you are under some false pretense that a president steers a wheel that drives markets...not surprising tho as you think the president should have ultimate power, or atleast I assume, as all the Democrat candidates are discussing things they should be doing as part of the legislative branch (sans Bernie, as hes never really passed anything or even introduced anything as a senator so he wouldn't do it anyway if he knew how to do his job). However, that a president can even apply tariffs shows how broken the legislative branch is.

So, give me some economic analysis @Platinumdrgn or do I need to wait for you to receive a talking point? Or just admit you have no f'n clue what you're talking about and have never, like Bernie, taken even an entry level econ class.
 
Steve King says without rape the world population couldn't grow! good ole republican logic there.
Denounced and stripped of committee spots by the GOP.

Meanwhile Northram survived a lynching pic and infanticide support in the same week while his Lt Gov has multiple sexual assault accusations....both still in power. But pls preach to us.
 
I saw a big dip in corporate investment the last quarter and the data supports that. You know what else I’m seeing? Investment picking back up. There ain’t gonna be a recession any time soon. Sorry you liberal halfwit pussies!
 
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And when they took the House this is who the two 80 yo leaders of the House chose to lead the Finance Committee. @Platinumdrgn

The Committee oversees all components of the nation’s housing and financial services sectors including banking, insurance, real estate, public and assisted housing, and securities. The Committee continually reviews the laws and programs relating to the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development, the Federal Reserve Bank, the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, and international development and finance agencies such as the World Bank and the International Monetary Fund. The Committee also ensures enforcement of housing and consumer protection laws such as the U.S. Housing Act, the Truth In Lending Act, the Housing and Community Development Act, the Fair Credit Reporting Act, the Real Estate Settlement Procedures Act, the Community Reinvestment Act, and financial privacy laws.

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What does this mean? What is an alternative to winner take all in the popular vote in a two person race? I'm for keeping the EC and making it proportional, the popular vote is already proportional by nature...


I'm specifically talking about keeping the EC so small states like KY keep their oversized representation, just making the votes proportional so everyone's votes are heard. As I said, the Republicans in California and the Democrats in Kentucky.
Everyone’s vote is heard under the EC. If I am on the losing side in the popular or proportional vote, would my vote not be heard?
 
I purchased IVZ and GT this morning before the carnage really got underway. Plus, I'm easing into ABBV via DRiP after already purchasing 100 shares through TD Ameritrade.

Seen this movie before.

I think in any market there is opportunity but this market as a whole for a new investor I wouldn’t touch it until the wild swings settle a bit. Stocks in general are over valued right now. Until there is a trade deal, the fed gets more involved or a stimulus the markets are going to go the wrong direction. If macaffee is willing to eat his dick if bitcoin isn’t over 1 million by 2020: lmao crazy shit going on in the markets right now
 
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Everyone’s vote is heard under the EC. If I am on the losing side in the popular or proportional vote, would my vote not be heard?
Of course whoever votes for the loser is heard. The current EC completely ignores 49% of a state's vote if a candidate wins the state with 51%. Those are the votes not being counted by the EC, not the votes that go to the loser of the election. Every state except Maine and Nebraska award all their EC votes to the winner, even if they barely win the state.
 
Not going to speak for Dion, but as a person that is more liberal than conservative on most issues, I would be all for this. While I do think the majority of Americans already have IDs, there are certainly some that don't for whatever reason. I live in a state that does voter ID and have no problems with it. In my area, it is enforced. There was one year I forgot my wallet, went to vote, and had to go home to get my ID. If there are people that couldn't afford it, they should get it free of charge, but 100% have to show it every election

Something tells me $20 for an ID, or whatever it costs isnt the problem. Unless their PS4 controller can vote on the TV it really wont matter.
 
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Of course whoever votes for the loser is heard. The current EC completely ignores 49% of a state's vote if a candidate wins the state with 51%. Those are the votes not being counted by the EC, not the votes that go to the loser of the election. Every state except Maine and Nebraska award all their EC votes to the winner, even if they barely win the state.
I live in blue Jefferson county in a red KY. So according to your system, my vote would not be heard even though I voted with most of the state. The only reason lib/dims want the change is because they lose outside the major cities.
 
I live in blue Jefferson county in a red KY. So according to your system, my vote would not be heard even though I voted with most of the state. The only reason lib/dims want the change is because they lose outside the major cities.
Isn't it amazing that our nation has survived for over 250 years and now all of the socialist want to change things. This is who they are. They are in the minority and can't stand it.
 
I live in blue Jefferson county in a red KY. So according to your system, my vote would not be heard even though I voted with most of the state. The only reason lib/dims want the change is because they lose outside the major cities.
No the EC is based on statewide popular vote, not county by county. Why are you even trying to have a conversation if you don't know how our elections work?
 
I live in blue Jefferson county in a red KY. So according to your system, my vote would not be heard even though I voted with most of the state. The only reason lib/dims want the change is because they lose outside the major cities.
That doesn't make any sense
 
Isn't it amazing that our nation has survived for over 250 years and now all of the socialist want to change things. This is who they are. They are in the minority and can't stand it.

because liberals don't just want to fix elections in their favor, they don't elections at all. they just want power. and idiots like the libtards in here would gladly grant them their wish.
 
Of course whoever votes for the loser is heard. The current EC completely ignores 49% of a state's vote if a candidate wins the state with 51%. Those are the votes not being counted by the EC, not the votes that go to the loser of the election. Every state except Maine and Nebraska award all their EC votes to the winner, even if they barely win the state.

No shit. That’s how it was set up.

What you want are states that are essentially vassal states. The absolute arrogance that accompanies the whining about the EC is astounding. It was never a problem until you didn’t get what you want.
 
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No the EC is based on statewide popular vote, not county by county. Why are you even trying to have a conversation if you don't know how our elections work?
How the hell are you going to divide up the EC votes then genius? Under your system, they would have to give the winner of JC, a large portion of the EC votes because it leans left.
 
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The whole “talking point” thing is lamer than ever. Our “Republican” president receives his briefings from a cable TV news show. Continuing with this “liberal talking points”/“LOCKSTEP” narrative is emptier than conservatives claiming to be all about “reason, logic, and critical thinking.”

Good thing I’m a libertarian.

How’s everything going, my brodies?
 
How the hell are you going to divide up the EC votes then genius? Under your system, they would have to give the winner of JC, a large portion of the EC votes because it leans left.
The same way Maine and Nebraska already do it. The winner of the state gets 2 EC votes off the top and then the rest are split proportionally. You do understand that your vote in the presidential election is meaningless right? The electoral voters can vote however they want. Right now we have no rules in place for it. Some states threaten penalties if they vote against the popular vote but they can still do it.
 
With any republican President wants don't matter, it's an inevitability. Republicans create recessions and Democrats clean up the mess. The only thing Trump could do to delay it a year or two is to bend over to China. He would have to cancel all the tariffs and beg them to resume imports.
False. Trump has been cleaning up Obama's mess. How about those shovel ready jobs Obama promised that did not happen then, when Trump became president those jobs and the ones Obummer said would not come back have all return and in force.
 
Your team has had the House for a while now and the power to do something and can't even pass a budget. You should totally send Nancy a firmly worded email.

Then again you were under the false assumption Obama had spending going down when he left and refused to acknowledge being proven wrong. What Vox does to you low-T guys should be criminal.
Haven't had the time to do anything, they were too busy attempting a coup of a lawfully elected president and should be executed for treason.
 
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