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How will they rule ??!

  • YES - Qualified

    Votes: 41 82.0%
  • NO - Disqualified

    Votes: 9 18.0%

  • Total voters
    50
  • Poll closed .
As if there had ever been any doubt..........

Democrats literally have no shame, none. Soros funded no doubt.



man you would think if they could afford to pay for one, that they could pay for a few more so the poor guy wouldn't have to stand out there all by himself.....
OR MAYBE
fake content engagement bait for them boomers

the world may never know the truth ;)
 
'For a former great power still trying to flex its military muscles around the world, the United Kingdom is woefully unprepared, with an Army that has ‘shrunk to its smallest size since the Napoleonic Wars’.


With only around 73,000 troops and – believe it or not – only 40 combat-ready battle tanks, it turns out that the shortcomings are also plaguing the Royal Air Force (RAF), that is facing a pilot shortage after a diversity hiring scheme unsurprisingly backfired.'

And more Admirals than navy ships. LOL.
 
If you don't like the message, why immediately blame the source? I haven't verified the source but if the facts are accurate, what kind of argument are you making?

Kamala lost because people think inflation only happened in the US, she wasn't selected through traditional means and she spent too much time catering to a portion of her base that most moderates couldn't care less about.

Remember when we were fed the line "yeah, all of our policies suck, but how's your 401k doing?", not hearing much of that at all.

As an independent with varying political opinions, this administration is off to one of the worst starts possible from nearly every aspect.
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LOL. Moderate. LOL.
 


This is the hard truth leftist just don't understand. We had a fake economy that was propped up debt and printing money. Inflation and lower living standards were the only outcome of that.

What that guy doesn't understand is that by waffling on Tarriffs, not the actual tarriffs themselves, Trump is putting the economy at risk of a recession. Not cutting federal employees (which a republican congresssman pointed out is less than 1 day of our federal spending a year), reducing spending that has already been approved or any other thing DOGE is alleging.

Those things don't affect economies at a macro level but obviously affect the people being fired and their families. While that' neither here nor there, markets react to volatility. Contracts are canceled, orders sourced from other economies, etc.

If the economy is propped up on fake money and wild spending, it's been that way since about 2007.
 
It's weird you would say that when the Republican platform is grift off of Trump. His policies are effectively to dismantle the federal government (which is working wonders at the moment), alienate the US from international affairs and cut taxes for the wealthiest Americans, while also running astronomical levels of spending. There's a reason he added the most debt of any president even excluding COVID spending.

Meanwhile, we've started trade wars with our longest strategic allies (which he can't decide if we actually want to continue with as he keeps changing his mind), tanked the stock market domestically (check out Tesla stock while you're at it) and basically turned into a one legged stool of government in two months. All the while, the crown jewel of the administration (DOGE) is having to retract nearly everything it posts because they keep screwing up their numbers/facts on top of the fact that it seems much of the changes they made are going to run into legal issues as they really shouldn't have the kind of power they are exerting. Don't be surprised if congress starts to ask more questions about what they are wholesale cutting moving forward.

FYI, the border still isn't closed. No policy changes that would continue to wind down inflation (firing bird flu specialists amid a national crisis was brilliant), nothing about the housing cost crisis and healthcare is but a blip on the radar at this point. But we now have the Gulf of America, so that's good.

I've posted on this board since 2009 with this moniker only, find new tactics.
You think the border is still wide open? You honestly don't read news do you.... We just had the smallest number of border crossings in like 40 years. That is a very easily verifiable number that was reported very broadly in this thread but probably wasn't on those moderate places you get your news.

He didn't start a trade war he just finally decided to push back and instead of doing some negotiating the globalist in other countries started to freak out. Why should we send our jobs to China because they can make something cheaper but Canada can block our products or inact tariffs to protect their workers? Why is it OK for everyone but us?
 
What that guy doesn't understand is that by waffling on Tarriffs, not the actual tarriffs themselves, Trump is putting the economy at risk of a recession. Not cutting federal employees (which a republican congresssman pointed out is less than 1 day of our federal spending a year), reducing spending that has already been approved or any other thing DOGE is alleging.

Those things don't affect economies at a macro level but obviously affect the people being fired and their families. While that' neither here nor there, markets react to volatility. Contracts are canceled, orders sourced from other economies, etc.

If the economy is propped up on fake money and wild spending, it's been that way since about 2007.
We were heading for a recession no matter what we did. What Trump is doing is trying to make it quick with a solid rebound. Have you even heard about the investments companies are going to be doing here?

Warren Buffet sold 80% of his stock portfolio last year for a reason and it wasn't because he knew Trump would win and crash the economy... he just knew the data was cooked and we couldn't keep lying about it forever. They revised the jobs numbers down almost every month of the Biden presidency. That isn't an accident. They faked adding over 1.2 million jobs.
 
You think the border is still wide open? You honestly don't read news do you.... We just had the smallest number of border crossings in like 40 years. That is a very easily verifiable number that was reported very broadly in this thread but probably wasn't on those moderate places you get your news.

He didn't start a trade war he just finally decided to push back and instead of doing some negotiating the globalist in other countries started to freak out. Why should we send our jobs to China because they can make something cheaper but Canada can block our products or inact tariffs to protect their workers? Why is it OK for everyone but us?

I need a list of all the tariffs Canada enacted that started the trade war. Mexico too. If our trade deal is bad, Trump signed those too.

Also, Trump said he would close the border on day 1, that was what I was referring to. It's almost as if this country depends on illegal immigration to function and no one is willing to admit it.
 
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That's a compelling argument if I've ever heard one.

What is your favorite Trump policy?
Deporting criminal aliens. And no.. we weren't already doing it or Homan wouldn't be sending 1000's a felons out the country in just a few months. Boston mayor is refusing to hand over 6 rapist to ICE just in the last week. Dems protect criminal aliens and Trump is stopping that and I very much support that.
 
We were heading for a recession no matter what we did. What Trump is doing is trying to make it quick with a solid rebound. Have you even heard about the investments companies are going to be doing here?

Warren Buffet sold 80% of his stock portfolio last year for a reason and it wasn't because he knew Trump would win and crash the economy... he just knew the data was cooked and we couldn't keep lying about it forever. They revised the jobs numbers down almost every month of the Biden presidency. That isn't an accident. They faked adding over 1.2 million jobs.

Why are we heading for a recession? Which specific policy indicated a recession was imminent under Trump? There were tons of Twitter posts in this thread the day after he won showing how good the stock market was doing at the prospects that he was going to cut taxes again and here we are five months later facing an unavoidable recession?

Explain the logic.
 
We were heading for a recession no matter what we did. What Trump is doing is trying to make it quick with a solid rebound. Have you even heard about the investments companies are going to be doing here?

Warren Buffet sold 80% of his stock portfolio last year for a reason and it wasn't because he knew Trump would win and crash the economy... he just knew the data was cooked and we couldn't keep lying about it forever. They revised the jobs numbers down almost every month of the Biden presidency. That isn't an accident. They faked adding over 1.2 million jobs.
Trump is gonna squeeze the working class out so his buttboy billionaires can buy it up at bargain prices.
 
It's wild how none of these moderates were in here while Biden was making us laughing stock but give Trump a few weeks and they all come wanting to educate us on how bad he is and why doing nothing is better than trying to fix anything.

I've been in here before but usually avoid it because it's nothing but people posting incorrect or rage bait tweets while literally avoiding discussing any actual talking point.

I regret my decision to engage.
 
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Don't let the idiots like simple sam and farmy gaslight you guys.

Just take it from Van Jones.


Jones said, “Can we ask another question? Do I keep talking about my own party? Can we talk about Ukraine or something? No, look, man, we’re screwed. I mean, we don’t know, Democrats don’t know what to do. This is a nightmare. You know, somebody like Donald Trump, we thought we’d at least have Hakeem Jeffries in the speaker’s chair to hold him back. If we didn’t have Kamala in there to do the right thing.”

He added, “Listen, the Democratic Party is going through a massive set of internal crises. You have a party that got trapped two ways. One, defending a broken status quo that nobody likes because they thought that Donald Trump was going to make it worse. But when you’re defending the status quo, you’re going to lose. And then offending most people in the country, calling everybody sexist and racist and transphobic and every other name, and then saying, ‘Please follow us.’ That’s not a good strategy, folks. Defending a broken status quo and offending most of the country, turns out, is not as popular as my party thought it was going to be. And so it’s going to take a while for people to get it figured out.”
That is why those idiots are getting more inflamed in their rhetoric. Because they know that they are on the wrong side of the most important issues.
 
Deporting criminal aliens. And no.. we weren't already doing it or Homan wouldn't be sending 1000's a felons out the country in just a few months. Boston mayor is refusing to hand over 6 rapist to ICE just in the last week. Dems protect criminal aliens and Trump is stopping that and I very much support that.

Is that a new trump policy though? A quick search shows we deported 12,000 people last February and 11,000 this February.

Generally, allowing for rogue asylum cities, felons are deported when captured, no?
 
On other countries. For some reason they never got mad when other countries tariff us or ban our products outright. It's almost like they hate the blue collar workers in the US.

On other countries that we predominantly have trade deals with already that we're signed by Trump. Who enacted new tarrifs most recently, the US or canada/Mexico? I haven't looked that up yet but you seem to be asserting we have a bad deal going and I'm trying to figure out why we are being told it was because of fentanyl coming from Canada and illegal immigration fro. Mexico.

Is it both? I'm genuinely asking.
 
The wealthiest Americans that do pay income taxes (and the wealthiest Americans that own "small" businesses and considerable chunks of corporations) saw the greatest benefit from the 2017 tax cuts. There were plenty of things that were good about the tax policy (doubled the standard deduction, simplified tax codes and increased the child tax credit). I'm a fan of not taxing tips (although I'd rather see tipping go by the wayside) and reducing the taxes paid by SS recipients is definitely a step in the right direction (although, in my anecdotal experience, taxes on SS for my clients weren't a thing unless you had a considerable chunk of earned income from another source).

I've read nearly every think tanks opinion on the 2017 tax cuts and can't find a single one that shows it merely provided a huge financial gain for the most wealthy, reduced the tax revenue (while increasing deficit spending) and did little to boost the middle class in either size or income.

If you have information to the contrary, I would love to read it (I intend no snark here, I genuinely want to make sure I have all the information).

Meanwhile, we have a proposed tax cut just passed that is over double the size (1.9T compared to 4.5T) that includes more deficit spending, hopes that nearly 710B would come back in the form of increased wages (the same thing we were fed last time) and will reduce benefits for Medicaid and SNAP to pay for the shortfall of nearly 2T.

Here's my guess, they won't actually cut those programs and will continue to provide the tax cuts as deficit spending.
  • 2010: $2,162.7 billion
  • 2011: $2,303.5 billion
  • 2012: $2,450.2 billion
  • 2013: $2,775.1 billion
  • 2014: $3,021.5 billion
  • 2015: $3,249.9 billion
  • 2016: $3,268.0 billion
  • 2017: $3,316.2 billion
  • 2018: $3,329.9 billion
  • 2019: $3,462.2 billion

You're telling me you couldn't find one place that didn't say tax revenues were reduced? I used AI to find this in like 30 seconds.

Wage Growth: Real wages grew by 4.9% in the two years post-TCJA (2018–2019), the fastest in two decades, per the Bureau of Labor Statistics. Middle-class workers saw gains, though the lowest-income quintile often experienced larger percentage increases in wages (e.g., 8–10% for the bottom 20% vs. 3–5% for the middle quintile), narrowing income gaps slightly.


And you think it did little to benefit middle income families? Where do you get your facts because they are wayyyyy off.
 
On other countries. For some reason they never got mad when other countries tariff us or ban our products outright. It's almost like they hate the blue collar workers in the US.
I mean the republicans in the state are mad about it too. So who doesn’t care about the blue collar workers in Kentucky?
 
Is that a new trump policy though? A quick search shows we deported 12,000 people last February and 11,000 this February.

Generally, allowing for rogue asylum cities, felons are deported when captured, no?
Hooman is a great sound bite, poor leader.

Biden didn’t reality show broadcast the deportations but it was the same policy emphasis as hooman, criminals first.
 
  • 2010: $2,162.7 billion
  • 2011: $2,303.5 billion
  • 2012: $2,450.2 billion
  • 2013: $2,775.1 billion
  • 2014: $3,021.5 billion
  • 2015: $3,249.9 billion
  • 2016: $3,268.0 billion
  • 2017: $3,316.2 billion
  • 2018: $3,329.9 billion
  • 2019: $3,462.2 billion

You're telling me you couldn't find one place that didn't say tax revenues were reduced? I used AI to find this in like 30 seconds.

Wage Growth: Real wages grew by 4.9% in the two years post-TCJA (2018–2019), the fastest in two decades, per the Bureau of Labor Statistics. Middle-class workers saw gains, though the lowest-income quintile often experienced larger percentage increases in wages (e.g., 8–10% for the bottom 20% vs. 3–5% for the middle quintile), narrowing income gaps slightly.


And you think it did little to benefit middle income families? Where do you get your facts because they are wayyyyy off.
TRICKle down economics
 
Is that a new trump policy though? A quick search shows we deported 12,000 people last February and 11,000 this February.

Generally, allowing for rogue asylum cities, felons are deported when captured, no?
No they are not. The guy who killed the cop in NYC had 19 arrest prior and was never turned over to ICE. The guy who raped and murdered Laken Riley was arrested like 6 times for assault they just shipped him out of state without turning him over to ICE. You also aren't looking at self deportations. Tons of illegals are going back on their own to try to come back legally. The threat of never getting a green card or citizenship sent tons back.
 
The wealthiest Americans that do pay income taxes (and the wealthiest Americans that own "small" businesses and considerable chunks of corporations) saw the greatest benefit from the 2017 tax cuts. There were plenty of things that were good about the tax policy (doubled the standard deduction, simplified tax codes and increased the child tax credit). I'm a fan of not taxing tips (although I'd rather see tipping go by the wayside) and reducing the taxes paid by SS recipients is definitely a step in the right direction (although, in my anecdotal experience, taxes on SS for my clients weren't a thing unless you had a considerable chunk of earned income from another source).

I've read nearly every think tanks opinion on the 2017 tax cuts and can't find a single one that shows it merely provided a huge financial gain for the most wealthy, reduced the tax revenue (while increasing deficit spending) and did little to boost the middle class in either size or income.

If you have information to the contrary, I would love to read it (I intend no snark here, I genuinely want to make sure I have all the information).
Federal Tax revenue went up every year, so your "experts" musta been wrong.

 
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