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POLITICAL THREAD

How will they rule ??!

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    Votes: 41 82.0%
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Agreed. I guess the tricky part is business. If you cap their money, does that hurt innovation down the road? Hard to draw that line.

Ha, I sound like such a socialist/lib. But the difference is the vast majority of them do it out of jealousy for those that "have" and/or because they want a piece of the action.

Ya it's a great moral goal. Just hard to pull off
 
Only in liberal leftist loony toon land is destroying evidence 100% OK, but releasing information for the public to see is a cover up.

It’s the most bizarre thing. Watching these bastards argue against transparency while defending people who smashed phones, used bleach bit, and people who literally staged a coup.

The fact that Democrats refused to read the DNC leaks and Podesta emails told me everything I ever needed to know about these sheep.

There you have it, in black and white, media colluding with the DNC, lying publicly while having different private thoughts, promising favors, strategizing using someone being a Jew against them, dictating TV coverage, letting politicians edit and approve articles, seeing the Obama DOJ giving Clinton’s camp papers and updates, literally coordinating propaganda, mocking Christians/Catholics, organizing potential candidates by race (as well as their fans to put behind Clinton).

You have them leaking debate questions and media letting Democrats pick interview questions for Republicans!!!

Democrat voters didn’t read them, media pundits wouldn’t go into detail or really acknowledge them outside of Cuomo telling us we aren’t allowed to read them or simply saying “Russia did it.”
 
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I guess I have weird views.. I think public service should be a mandatory 4-5 days a year, similar to jury duty, where every citizen is responsible for helping society. Work at an animal shelter, a soup kitchen, clean up the roads, spend time at a children's hospital.
I think it should be mandatory for everyone living on the government dole to work cleaning streets, parks, and other public places 5 days a week.
 
Agreed. I guess the tricky part is business. If you cap their money, does that hurt innovation down the road? Hard to draw that line.

Ha, I sound like such a socialist/lib. But the difference is the vast majority of them do it out of jealousy for those that "have" and/or because they want a piece of the action.

Indeed, it's tricky for sure.

I think after a billionaire and multi-billion dollar company start to get into and take over dozens of different sectors, that's when you look at them and say "hey guys, let some other people and businesses do that, we have a homeless crisis here, a literacy crises there, a crime problem here...etc...why don't you all start to get into those areas..."

I would say that if you did cap businesses at a certain point it would allow other businesses to pop up and thrive.

For example, caping amazon before they got into streaming and movie making would allow for other companies to pop up and do so.

Caping Bezos before he got into Space, would allow other companies to pop up in that sector.

Apple doesn't need to get into the music and movie business, that money needs to go to very specific issues. I think they are trending in the healthcare direction and I think Tim Apple actually understands the great responsibility large companies and great wealth has, but he and Apple are still dilly-dallying around in areas that others can handle.

Google before they bought Youtube, Zuck, before he bought IG, and on and on...let other companies and people do those things. Then use all that money you apparently have to dabble in all sorts of things and dabble in real-world issues.
 
Harvey Weinstein accusers tentatively agree to $44 million settlement.

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Even a sexual pervert doesn't want Hillary laying a hand on him. "Get her off of me Bill!"
 
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Indeed, it's tricky for sure.

I think after a billionaire and multi-billion dollar company start to get into and take over dozens of different sectors, that's when you look at them and say "hey guys, let some other people and businesses do that, we have a homeless crisis here, a literacy crises there, a crime problem here...etc...why don't you all start to get into those areas..."

I would say that if you did cap businesses at a certain point it would allow other businesses to pop up and thrive.

For example, caping amazon before they got into streaming and movie making would allow for other companies to pop up and do so.

Caping Bezos before he got into Space, would allow other companies to pop up in that sector.

Apple doesn't need to get into the music and movie business, that money needs to go to very specific issues. I think they are trending in the healthcare direction and I think Tim Apple actually understands the great responsibility large companies and great wealth has, but he and Apple are still dilly-dallying around in areas that others can handle.

Google before they bought Youtube, Zuck, before he bought IG, and on and on...let other companies and people do those things. Then use all that money you apparently have to dabble in all sorts of things and dabble in real-world issues.


Ok. Let's start now.

Which completely revolutionary mind blowing technology and innovation is going to be the next billion dollar idea we should prevent current billionaires from investing in in the United States?


In hindsight, sure, you can say we shouldn't have let people invest in things. But maybe it's those investments that made those things what they are.



25 years ago you all were probably bitching about Kodak being too powerful and how MySpace was taking over the world.
 
And fuuuuuuuuuck mandatory public service. If you're on the doll, I can get on board. I pay my goddam share of taxes and donate to plenty of charities. Sure as shit am not on board with mandatory public service.
 
Got laid off this morning. Got a good package that should allow me to just coast for the summer before hitting the pavement hard in the fall, but it was still quite a shock. No heads up at all. 300 middle and upper management people got a nice holiday weekend present.
 
Ok. Let's start now.

Which completely revolutionary mind blowing technology and innovation is going to be the next billion dollar idea we should prevent current billionaires from investing in in the United States?


In hindsight, sure, you can say we shouldn't have let people invest in things. But maybe it's those investments that made those things what they are.



25 years ago you all were probably bitching about Kodak being too powerful and how MySpace was taking over the world.
You have to let the markets dictate with as little govt intervention as possible.
 
Damn John, sorry to hear that.

Thanks Bill. Should make for a lazy summer.

Went through 3 acquisitions and 15 years with the company. Will be weird to look for a job, haven’t been on the hunt in a long time. The company has been bleeding funds for awhile and we probably should have seen this coming. Life goes on.
 
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Only in lib logic is releasing everything a cover up

Got laid off this morning. Got a good package that should allow me to just coast for the summer before hitting the pavement hard in the fall, but it was still quite a shock. No heads up at all. 300 middle and upper management people got a nice holiday weekend present.

Hate to hear. I'm sure you'll bounce back even better
 
Thanks Bill. Should make for a lazy summer.

Went through 3 acquisitions and 15 years with the company. Will be weird to look for a job, haven’t been on the hunt in a long time. The company has been bleeding funds for awhile and we probably should have seen this coming. Life goes on.


Maybe if they didn't overpay illegal aliens to sit on message boards all day they would still be a float.



I'm kidding. In all honesty, I hope the best for you. Good luck with the transition.
 
Got laid off this morning. Got a good package that should allow me to just coast for the summer before hitting the pavement hard in the fall, but it was still quite a shock. No heads up at all. 300 middle and upper management people got a nice holiday weekend present.
Sorry to hear. Good luck going forward.

Layoff happened to me back in 2010 when I worked in the semiconductor industry, shortly after the financial crisis. Luckily I received 18-months advance notice. Landed a job 4 months later at 1/2 the pay. No complaints. Everything worked out.
 
Got laid off this morning. Got a good package that should allow me to just coast for the summer before hitting the pavement hard in the fall, but it was still quite a shock. No heads up at all. 300 middle and upper management people got a nice holiday weekend present.
Sorry to hear about that man. I wish you the best but I'm sure you will land something great. Enjoy your summer and play a couple of rounds for me!
 
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In regards to the reports about the average American's wealth.. I do think at some point a billionaire's money needs to go back to society. The first 50 billion? fine, keep it and buy your 4th airliner.. but man, do people really need the next billion after that?

I'm sure many don't already give to charities. But the reasonable side of me, and the ability to critique my own political party's values (take note, Libs), says that there's no reason for a man or woman to have $100 billion dollars to throw around.
I can't really agree with your logic. Need has nothing to do with it. The only thing that matters is your ability to earn it or not. If you earn, it should be yours to do with as you please. When you bring need into the discussion, you are saying you are entitled to what you earn, but are only entitled to what the government decides you need. I just can't agree with the logic.
 
Agreed with the general idea that after a certain threshold billions need to start going back into society, if not in the form of taxes then directly to areas of need.

Same goes for large corporations. After a certain point, billions need to start flowing into something other than gobbling up the competition, stock buybacks, mergers, and space projects.

I wouldn't be as generous as you though. For personal wealth, I'd draw the line at about 10 billion, after that you can give it to the government and let them squander it or you can go direct to the source.

As for corporations. 25 billion give or take, that's enough to do everything you need to do. All the excess after that, again you can cough it up to uncle sam or go directly to an area of need with it.

Do we really need to worry about space life thousands of years from now when we have hunger, cancer, and environmental issues right now? I say let's take care of this planet, it's people and issues before we go fu** up the galaxy and other planets.

I think that's how the health care issue can be greatly helped.

Gates, Zuckerberg, Google, Amazon as a company and Bezos individually, Buffet, Berkshire, etc...need to start putting their excess into the problems of today.

Each of those individuals and companies can all afford to cut off their personal and company wealth after a certain threshold then build and fund dozens of hospitals, clinics, doctors offices, etc...

I know they all give to charity and have foundations, but I feel like that creates a lot of middle people. The Giving Pledge that Gates started is all great, but I'd like to know where all that money is going? Is it building free health care services, is it doing anything about the homeless crisis, how about opioid crises, and on and on with all the problems we have.

Every rich American titan being obsessed with Africa has always been a head scratcher to me as well. Christ, we have hungry black, white, Latino, etc kids and homeless shanty towns right here in this country. Let's clean up our house, and get our shit straight and then go help the world.
I won't completely reiterate my response to Lineskicat, but I can't behind having some third party tell anyone how much money they need. Need has nothing to do individual liberty and freedom. We are entitled to whatever we earn. No one should have the power to take that away just because someone thinks they don't need it. That is just not consistent with liberty.

What I really wanted to comment on is the idea of limiting corporate earnings. Aside from the point above, it would be a disaster waiting to happen. Earnings are what attracts investment in corporations. People invest in corporations that can provide a good return on their investment in the corporation. Limiting earnings would completely destroy how people invest in corporations and would likely strangle investment in high earnings corporations because those earnings would now disappear down to your threshold. It's just not a workable model aside from the questions about the violation of liberty.
 
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