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This is a misleading assumption that is just uniformed to say the least. Sweden has more Iraqi born citizens in one city than all of Canada and the USA combined. Migration to the Nordic states is a huge continental movement that is happening. People find the Nordic states so appealing that the capacity of these states to handle the massive influx of people is challenging their small countries ability to handle all the people coming looking for a peaceful and prosperous life.

I'm not sure what that has to do with anything we were discussing.

Go here to grasp the consequences of the reckless decisions made by the Bush administration. Also note the numbers of people migrating to Europe vs the USA.

http://www.unhcr.org/558193896.html

Good to see blame Bush is still alive and well

Mark Cuban [laughing]

I wish he'd run. All the positives of Trump with none of the egotistical bs
 
1) no one expects you to march in Black Lives Matter protests. It's when people choose to ignore societal issues and divert attention by saying "All Lives Matter" that it becomes questionable.

2) no one expects you to throw a party or buy the bar out because gay marriage is legal. It's when people choose to direct hate towards gay people and attempt to legislate morality that it becomes questionable.

3) no one expects you to like Caitlynn Jenner or even not curse her name in your own home. It's when people choose to denigrate her and use her as a vehicle to direct their preexisting bigotry that it becomes questionable.

1 Never understood the objection to "All Lives Matter." Unless of course AAs are not included in "All."

2 Never understood why disagreement with gay marriage is "hate" but denigrating those who disagree with it isn't "hate" as well.

3 Bruce Jenner is a "he." Always has been. Always will be. If he wants to call himself Caitlynn and dress up like a woman, I have no problem with that. The guy has crossed wires and he deserves everyone's genuine sympathy.
 
By the way Boss, I got what you were saying and yes I added the mor
I'm a liberal democrat by admission? I'm a libertarian socialist. If you don't know what that is then look it up. My views are undoubtedly to the left of yours but don't lump me in with the Obama/Hillary loving "liberals". This world is nuanced. I know that's hard for you to comprehend. And you still don't effing get it. I'm saying that corporations don't want the government in their business until it's time to bail them out. Then they are all for state intervention. Didn't say anything about more control. I'm saying stop bailing these effers out.
OK then, I think you admitted being a liberal, moreover, far left. With that being said, have you ever heard of implied and specified? Being the intelligent person you are, of course you have. Implied in this instance simply means that because of your postings of the past, I believed government control is implied. The sweet deal comment was simply sarcasm.
 
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By the way Boss, I got what you were saying and yes I added the mor

OK then, I think you admitted being a liberal, moreover, far left. With that being said, have you ever heard of implied and specified? Being the intelligent person you are, of course you have. Implied in this instance simply means that because of your postings of the past, I believed government control is implied. The sweet deal comment was simply sarcasm.
Fair enough.
 
1 Never understood the objection to "All Lives Matter." Unless of course AAs are not included in "All."

2 Never understood why disagreement with gay marriage is "hate" but denigrating those who disagree with it isn't "hate" as well.

3 Bruce Jenner is a "he." Always has been. Always will be. If he wants to call himself Caitlynn and dress up like a woman, I have no problem with that. The guy has crossed wires and he deserves everyone's genuine sympathy.

1) When people say "All Lives Matter" it is meant to discredit the Black Lives Matter movement and suggest that there is no validity to their words. Hence, why no one was saying All Lives Matter at any point before.

2) If you spew insults, slurs and hatred towards a particular group of people, it is hate. You can disagree all you want. That's not what I'm talking about. Be ignorant in your own home.

3) Pretty sure Bruce isn't just dressing as a woman. Shows your lack of education/research on the topic in general.
 
Off topic but has anyone else noticed that hostilities toward gays have increased. I only occasionally use to hear people talk about gays but now since the Obama administrations has imposed new social laws I hear the most vile, hateful things said about gays. I really feel that there is a backlash going on right now and its a consequence of social engineering by the Obama administration.
 
It's not just where they piss. It's also locker rooms and showers. That ok with you too?
Well considering they more than likely aren't attracted to you...I suppose. But when a rough looking teenage boy goes into the women's bathroom with your wife, it's actually a chick...probably gay too. Don't do anything about it now, because remember you were terrified about it before and didn't want them using the other bathroom.

Also about the shower/locker room thing...did you play sports in high school? If you did you probably showered with other dudes in the locker...so you showered with people who identified as the same sex...anything happen? Or how about this, there's a chance that one of them was closet gay.....anyone ever get buttraped..no...oh.

Just admit, your absolutely terrified and shaking about something you cant statistically prove is going to cause anything bad. I'd assume dying in a car wreck today is more likely than a trans person coming on to someone in a bathroom....guess I better throw the keys away.

Also, better hire a police guard for the bathroom...your son has had the potential to be in a bathroom with a pedo...but hey...they got the same parts tho, so not as big a deal to you I guess.

Better not camp or go to a festival...port o Johns....those are unisex...who knows what might happen waiting in line.

Again...government power over people is terrible, I hate big government. People spending countless energy stressing out about .03 of the population because they are nonsensically terrified that maybe .00000001 of that .03 might do something..well, that's laughable.
 
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Off topic but has anyone else noticed that hostilities toward gays have increased. I only occasionally use to hear people talk about gays but now since the Obama administrations has imposed new social laws I hear the most vile, hateful things said about gays. I really feel that there is a backlash going on right now and its a consequence of social engineering by the Obama administration.
No, that is mostly the availability of a social platform from which to spew hate, i.e. Twitter, Facebook, etc. Unintended consequence of being able to say whatever you want and have potentially thousands of people read it and/or share it.
 
Well considering they more than likely aren't attracted to you...I suppose. But when a rough looking teenage boy goes into the women's bathroom with your wife, it's actually a chick...probably gay too. Don't do anything about it now, because remember you were terrified about it before and didn't want them using the other bathroom.

Also about the shower/locker room thing...did you play sports in high school? If you did you probably showered with other dudes in the locker...so you showered with people who identified as the same sex...anything happen? Or how about this, there's a chance that one of them was closet gay.....anyone ever get buttraped..no...oh.

Just admit, your absolutely terrified and shaking about something you cant statistically prove is going to cause anything bad. I'd assume dying in a car wreck today is more likely than a trans person coming on to someone in a bathroom....guess I better throw the keys away.

Also, better hire a police guard for the bathroom...your son has had the potential to be in a bathroom with a pedo...but hey...they got the same parts tho, so not as big a deal to you I guess.

Better not camp or go to a festival...port o Johns....those are unisex...who knows what might happen waiting in line.

Again...government power over people is terrible, I hate big government. People spending countless energy stressing out about .03 of the population because they are nonsensically terrified that maybe .00000001 of that .03 might do something..well, that's laughable.

So i don't get your post are you for or against these new regulations. Your kind of speaking out of both sides of your mouth.
 
Off topic but has anyone else noticed that hostilities toward gays have increased. I only occasionally use to hear people talk about gays but now since the Obama administrations has imposed new social laws I hear the most vile, hateful things said about gays. I really feel that there is a backlash going on right now and its a consequence of social engineering by the Obama administration.

Different circles I guess but I honestly don't ever hear this
 
Well considering they more than likely aren't attracted to you...I suppose. But when a rough looking teenage boy goes into the women's bathroom with your wife, it's actually a chick...probably gay too. Don't do anything about it now, because remember you were terrified about it before and didn't want them using the other bathroom.

Also about the shower/locker room thing...did you play sports in high school? If you did you probably showered with other dudes in the locker...so you showered with people who identified as the same sex...anything happen? Or how about this, there's a chance that one of them was closet gay.....anyone ever get buttraped..no...oh.

Just admit, your absolutely terrified and shaking about something you cant statistically prove is going to cause anything bad. I'd assume dying in a car wreck today is more likely than a trans person coming on to someone in a bathroom....guess I better throw the keys away.

Also, better hire a police guard for the bathroom...your son has had the potential to be in a bathroom with a pedo...but hey...they got the same parts tho, so not as big a deal to you I guess.

Better not camp or go to a festival...port o Johns....those are unisex...who knows what might happen waiting in line.

Again...government power over people is terrible, I hate big government. People spending countless energy stressing out about .03 of the population because they are nonsensically terrified that maybe .00000001 of that .03 might do something..well, that's laughable.
What a bunch of stupid crap! I'm personally not afraid of people like you.

Last time I used a port o pot, it was one at a time. Maybe you and your buddies go in together but most of us don't.

And if you're ok with a man, gay or straight, in the same shower or dressing room with your wife or daughter, good for you. You're a wonderful person. Dws

And you people keep saying we (those against this insanity) are terrified (wrong again) of a small % of the population. But you are not even correct in who we are talking about.its the pervs, like those that take up skirt shots. Doesn't take much of a Google search to find those kind of people.

So, keep posting your dumb accusations.
 
1) When people say "All Lives Matter" it is meant to discredit the Black Lives Matter movement and suggest that there is no validity to their words. Hence, why no one was saying All Lives Matter at any point before.

2) If you spew insults, slurs and hatred towards a particular group of people, it is hate. You can disagree all you want. That's not what I'm talking about. Be ignorant in your own home.

3) Pretty sure Bruce isn't just dressing as a woman. Shows your lack of education/research on the topic in general.

Which is exactly what you just did. In the usual egghead patronizing way. Why do you hate us so? :cry:

Oh, and Bruce Jenner is still a guy.
 
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Off topic but has anyone else noticed that hostilities toward gays have increased. I only occasionally use to hear people talk about gays but now since the Obama administrations has imposed new social laws I hear the most vile, hateful things said about gays. I really feel that there is a backlash going on right now and its a consequence of social engineering by the Obama administration.

I think the same can be said about Hispanics, Blacks and many other areas. According to some electing Obama, our first black president, would be electing the savior that would unify our country but he has only driven it further apart.
 
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Well the GPS coordinates got off track and sent all the bombs to Iraq the first time. Pretty sure with the $900 billion defense budget we can accidentally send some of that shock and awe to Iran.
 
Do we as a country really need an $800 billion dollar military budget? almost 7x the amount the China who comes in at 2nd....I mean for real though... Canada isnt going to do shit to us... Mexico Down isnt going to do jack and we are protected by 2 oceans on either side. WTF do we need $800 billion dollar military budget for? Can we not maintain the worlds most advanced military with 100 billion dollars (Still $50 million more than China)? Maybe put that excess to good use rather than building tanks that by the time they are done being produced are already outdated and scrapped. Why do we need these state of the art fighter jets when majority of the stuff we do now can and is done via drone? Now if that money actually was allocated to PAY TROOPS AND VETERANS what they deserve instead of barely over poverty line salaries that is one thing...but its not used in that way. This country's military spending is the biggest and most egregious misappropriation of funds in the world.

It has been said that our military is at its smallest/weakest it has been since World War I. However, we are still No.1 in immigration and are not protecting the border at all while cartels do as they please and ISIS is said to be operating in Mexico. I think it's pretty damn important to have a strong military but the left is also, trying to ruin us from the inside out so it will probably make very little difference eventually.

I'd prefer if we pulled out of everywhere else in the world and actually protected our effing borders with our military and have ZERO tolerance for illegals.
 
This silliness will end when perverts, pedophiles and rapists decide they identify as women. It's just a shame that some people will be hurt before eyes are opened.
 
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Also, where are you hearing this "hostility" toward gays? Ridiculous and probably a result of where you live and your inner circle because in California, no one says anything negative about homosexuals.
 
Apparently Rush cited a study from John Hopkins that said transgender folks should be treated as a mental patients due to the high rate of suicide and buyers remorse once the change was complete.

Seems the gov't is enabling these crazies by forcing more shitter options.
 
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Apparently Rush cited a study from John Hopkins that said transgender folks should be treated as a mental patients due to the high rate of suicide and buyers remorse once the change was complete.

Seems the gov't is enabling these crazies by forcing more shitter options.

I read that study. Dr. McHugh accurately points out that transgender is a mental disorder. Also, people need to read up on the case of the LA Times former sports writer, Mike Penner, who became a woman for a bit and then returned to being a male before killing himself.

We have lost our freaking minds with the leftist running things.



At what other point in history would this crap be tolerated and deemed "okay?"
 
While I do kinda like the idea of watching Cuban lob grenades at Trump from the safety of the Democratic VP slot, it'll never happen.

No way Cuban would do it. Early on, he was a Trump quasi supporter and was very anti hillary, iirc. Just like Trump, he saw a good way to get his name in the headlines and took it.

Plus, one of the articles I read had a very misleading headline. Cuban said Hillary needed someone like Cuban, not that Cuban actually volunteered for the job. Or thats the way I took it.

Either way, I hope Cuban gets involved in politics sooner rather than later.
 
I love the left's shifting view of science.

They make fun of religion and then cite science as their "God" and proof of why religion is stupid.
Then turn around and ignore science and believe biology isn't important when it comes to "gender identity" issues.

There just seems to be a lot of inconsistency with how the left views science when the topics of religion, transgender and climate change are brought up.
 
Off topic but has anyone else noticed that hostilities toward gays have increased. I only occasionally use to hear people talk about gays but now since the Obama administrations has imposed new social laws I hear the most vile, hateful things said about gays. I really feel that there is a backlash going on right now and its a consequence of social engineering by the Obama administration.
Aren't you the OP? Why are you trying to hijack your own thread?
 
I love the left's shifting view of science.

They make fun of religion and then cite science as their "God" and proof of why religion is stupid.
Then turn around and ignore science and believe biology isn't important when it comes to "gender identity" issues.

There just seems to be a lot of inconsistency with how the left views science when the topics of religion, transgender and climate change are brought up.

Believe in God and you are rejecting science.

Believing you are a female when you clearly a male (or vice versa) is good science.
 
1) no one expects you to march in Black Lives Matter protests. It's when people choose to ignore societal issues and divert attention by saying "All Lives Matter" that it becomes questionable.

2) no one expects you to throw a party or buy the bar out because gay marriage is legal. It's when people choose to direct hate towards gay people and attempt to legislate morality that it becomes questionable.

3) no one expects you to like Caitlynn Jenner or even not curse her name in your own home. It's when people choose to denigrate her and use her as a vehicle to direct their preexisting bigotry that it becomes questionable.

I'm glad at least one other poster responded to your points. In general, I disagree with the overall tone of your response as I feel you're setting up tangential issues to 'prove' your point of view.

1. The whole Black Lives Matter movement got a lot of attention due to a tragic shooting in Ferguson when a white police officer got into an altercation with a black man and ended up shooting him. A tragedy, for sure. An avoidable tragedy, imo, but a tragedy regardless. But, 'BLACK' lives aren't the only ones that matter. And black lives lost at the hands of whites make up a very small percentage of black lives lost prematurely. The BLM movement has said NOTHING about those facts. Saying ALL Lives Matter is not ignoring anything. If anything, Black Lives Matter ignores black-on-black crime, ignores young white people being killed, etc. Black lives do not matter any more or less than any other lives. That's the message behind All Lives Matter. But, in your own words, if someone says All Lives Matter then they are ignoring societal issues and diverting attention and their actions are 'questionable'? Pretty much the exact point I was making originally.
2. Here again, my experience with the gay marriage issue (which I actually supported without marching in parades) is if you aren't 100% on board, gung ho, it's because you're a narrow-minded, Bible thumping, homophobe. The whole gay agenda has been foisted on the American public and if you're not for it, there's something wrong with you. Personally, I could care less who or what an adult sleeps with as long as there is consent on both sides. But, I'm not marching in protests or in support. I don't care. But, nationally, one is not allowed to truly not care. If you're not out and proud, you're a homophobe.
3. Choose to denigrate her? She's a publicity whore who turned her 'courageous' decision into a TV show. And, by the way, felt so strongly about becoming a woman that she didn't get her male genitalia removed and is now considering transitioning back. I shouldn't make fun of or think poorly of that? Again, you're response is stating that because I or someone like me feels Caitlyn Jenner is a fake and huckster, I'm anti-TG. I don't revel in other people's pain. But encouraging individuals to mutilate themselves because they don't feel comfortable in their own skin and bullying others to celebrate their 'courage'? Leave me out of that.
 
Nothing turns everything into a pile of unmanageable shit quite like religion does. If you can't at a base level begin from a rational point of what is real independent of fantasy then nothing lasting can be achieved. Which is why our Founding Fathers separated politics from religion and on the flip side demonstrates why the middle east is perpetually aflame. Sadly we are allowing this same religious poison to seep in and destroy us similarly. You cannot govern from a standpoint of fantasy.
 
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