POLITICAL THREAD

[jamo0001]

This is interesting to me. The 2 biggest questions in November.
1) How many dems/independents will come vote for Trump because of this, as well as the possible wall?
2) What percentage of 'never trumpers' will end up voting for Trump?

Does anyone honestly think the audio of Trump's convo with the NYT won't leak before November?

The question is *when* it'll leak, not if.

 

[wkycatfan]

pundits are predicting this will be the meanest nastiest most negative campaign in the history of the universe.

what is the result of that overall? low, Low, LOW turnout. Who does that benefit? Not sure, arguments can be for either Trump or Hillary in those circumstances.

I think the low turnout is very possible, because of the negativity. Trump voters are hard core. Trump haters are hard core. Nobody has any real passion about Hillary.

 

[BostonCat2001]

electoral map problem: link

 

[Willy4UK]

Trump is going to make things so good for America, you just wait and see.

 

[bigblueinsanity]

A lot of his voters are perfectly fine with the racism/sexism and xenophobia......so there is that.

Just wish they'd man up and admit to it instead of acting offended by the idea.

Two turds running for the presidency....smh....pretty sad that both will rely on two of the worst types of people to win.

It isnt racist to suggest immigrants should be here legally. It isnt xenophobic to suggest refugees should be vetted rather than given an open door policy.

Our only hope left is that the FBI has some integrity, recommends charges to the DOJ, and then the entire FBI resigns in protest when the DOJ decides not to prosecute Clinton.

It honestly makes me sick thinking the only way Clinton avoids felony prosecution is by becoming POTUS, and that's actually going to happen.

I mean, what the hell happened to the "hope and change" you people voted for. This is the exact opposite of change. Voting for Clinton is a vote for the absolute worst example of political favoritism and back handed dealing we've ever seen (and I don't think that's hyperbole).

The only thing keeping her out of jail is the fact that people are going to ask her to be POTUS. I just cannot wrap my head around that.

One can hope. But I dont see it happening.

 

[bigblueinsanity]

Trump is going to make things so good for America, you just wait and see.

They will be great. Really, really great. And tremendous.

 

[starchief5]

Does anyone honestly think the audio of Trump's convo with the NYT won't leak before November?

The question is *when* it'll leak, not if.

Does anyone honestly think the audio of Hillary's convo with the big banks won't leak before November?

The question is "when" it'll leak, not if.

 

[Willy4UK]

They will be great. Really, really great. And tremendous.

America will be so awesome that people will hardly recognize the old non-awesome America. You wait and see.

 

[From-the-stands]

They will be great. Really, really great. And tremendous.

We're going to be so proud.

 

[starchief5]

Well ... who ya got?

http://i.makeagif.com/media/1-07-2016/1mZuba.mp4 This guy?

https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=&url=http://www.aminoapps.com/page/wrestling/2967157/fears-gif-of-the-day-2-trump-is-war&psig=AFQjCNGs4k2q0GfmHQG_-129NslDZceRvg&ust=1462461599647708 Or this guy?

 

[Catfan in Tn.]

Trump's not serious, just auctioning for a new tv show. Remember that crowd?

 

[jamo0001]

Does anyone honestly think the audio of Hillary's convo with the big banks won't leak before November?

The question is "when" it'll leak, not if.

Whoever had those recordings is probably already dead

 

[starchief5]

Probably. We know. We know.

 

[DSmith21]

Does anyone honestly think the audio of Trump's convo with the NYT won't leak before November?

The question is *when* it'll leak, not if.

The audio tape will probably be leaked the same week as the Hillary n Huma sex tape. The question is which side drops the bomb first.

 

[fuzz77]

Apparently, our resident self-appointed genius fuzz is not intelligent enough to distinguish between (A) a wall to keep foreigners OUT and (B) a wall to keep a nation's OWN people IN.

I wasn't aware that a wall knew the difference.

Trump isn't going to build a wall, he's negotiating. He says he wants a wall knowing he'll never get it,....but what he wants is enforcement much tougher than we have now.
In this scenario left and right win.

The Dems get to tout they staved off a wall, and the Reps get to tout much tougher enforcement.

Bill, I agree that there will never be a wall built...oh, they may build a few miles here, few there.but color me skeptical that more enforcement will yield any tangible results.
Again I equate it to the "War on Drugs". You can never solve the problem from the supply side of the equation. Less supply only drives up prices which in turn increases supply.

IMHO the one step that would be cost effective is to HAMMER the people who profit from illegal workers but there is no political will to do so...from either side.

 

[Catfan in Tn.]

Kaisch suspending campaign.

 

[DSmith21]

^ Smart move the race is over. Why waste any more money?

 

[P19978]

Kaisch suspending campaign.

Trump needs to repair that relationship and name him as VP.

Ohio is a must have for Repubs.

 

[Catfan in Tn.]

He should have been out a long time ago. Question is whether those that supported other candidates will unite and vote for Trump.

 

[Catfan in Tn.]

Kaisch has said he is not interested in becoming VP and their immigration policy isn't even close.

 

[Bill Derington]

I wasn't aware that a wall knew the difference.



Bill, I agree that there will never be a wall built...oh, they may build a few miles here, few there.but color me skeptical that more enforcement will yield any tangible results.
Again I equate it to the "War on Drugs". You can never solve the problem from the supply side of the equation. Less supply only drives up prices which in turn increases supply.

IMHO the one step that would be cost effective is to HAMMER the people who profit from illegal workers but there is no political will to do so...from either side.

That would be tougher enforcement wouldn't it? There is no political will now, because our politicians face no ramifications for it, the voters don't hold them accountable.

If Trump were to win, that would be a sign that people are sick of it, and we want accountability on immigration. Thats how change starts, WE have to demand a change.

Career politicians are only going to do as much as it takes to get reelected, thats it.

 

[fuzz77]

It isnt racist to suggest immigrants should be here legally. It isnt xenophobic to suggest refugees should be vetted rather than given an open door policy.

But it is racist to refer to those immigrants as "rapist" and "criminals" as is commonly done.
...and no "open door" policy exists for refugees. The refugees that have been admitted to date have gone through the most stringent vetting process ever for refugees. It has taken them on average 2 years to be granted permission to come.

 

[Bill Derington]

But it is racist to refer to those immigrants as "rapist" and "criminals" as is commonly done.
...and no "open door" policy exists for refugees. The refugees that have been admitted to date have gone through the most stringent vetting process ever for refugees. It has taken them on average 2 years to be granted permission to come.

How is that racist, what race?

 

[Catfan in Tn.]

if the vetting process takes 2 years, why is the president wanting to admit them now?

 

[Willy4UK]

Muslims rape and commit crime. That's a fact. The ones that don't rape or commit crime are more than likely to aid and abet another Muslim who rapes and commits crimes.

 

[krazykats]

Kaisch has said he is not interested in becoming VP and their immigration policy isn't even close.

Goodness it's no wonder politicians lie so much!

 

[Bill Derington]

Claiming someone is racist is the modern day McCarthyism.

 

[fuzz77]

That would be tougher enforcement wouldn't it? There is no political will now, because our politicians face no ramifications for it, the voters don't hold them accountable.

If Trump were to win, that would be a sign that people are sick of it, and we want accountability on immigration. Thats how change starts, WE have to demand a change.

Career politicians are only going to do as much as it takes to get reelected, thats it.

Bill, it would be tougher enforcement but it is the path that no one seeking...and I seriously doubt Trump would seek given his ties to the construction industry.
Why is it I see a "War on Drugs" (although they may coin it "War on Thugs") part deux? Twice as expensive and half as effective.

 

[P19978]

Kaisch has said he is not interested in becoming VP and their immigration policy isn't even close.

Kasich needs to change his immigration stance.

Doesnt he realize that the last 2 Repubs survived mainly because of their hard line stance on immigration?

 

[Bill Derington]

Bill, it would be tougher enforcement but it is the path that no one seeking...and I seriously doubt Trump would seek given his ties to the construction industry.
Why is it I see a "War on Drugs" (although they may coin it "War on Thugs") part deux? Twice as expensive and half as effective.

We have an illegal immigration problem, maintaining a secure border is one of the main tenets of the Federal Govt set out in the Constitution, our Southern border is not secure.

Now, we can dance around the subject, and pretend it doesn't exist or do something about it.

 

[TransyCat09]

If you're in a state that is absolutely going to go to one candidate *cough* Kentucky *cough*, might was well vote for Gary Johnson or the LP candidate. If they can garner enough votes, it means a true third party in 2020. Much more important that making sure Trump wins with 75% of the vote instead of 65%

 

[Willy4UK]

If you're in a state that is absolutely going to go to one candidate *cough* Kentucky *cough*, might was well vote for Gary Johnson or the LP candidate. If they can garner enough votes, it means a true third party in 2020. Much more important that making sure Trump wins with 75% of the vote instead of 65%

Hell yeah! Cheers to that!

 

[JHB4UK]

So Trump cleared out a Battle Royale of 16 other competitors featuring hugely sucessful multi term governors along with tea party darling senators and was the last one standing....yet Hillary at the beginning of May was still losing to a Vermont Socialist

 

[Mashburned]

If you're in a state that is absolutely going to go to one candidate *cough* Kentucky *cough*, might was well vote for Gary Johnson or the LP candidate. If they can garner enough votes, it means a true third party in 2020. Much more important that making sure Trump wins with 75% of the vote instead of 65%

Lol

Brilliant

Fix the voting problem by...voting!!!!

*crowd goes wild*

 

[DSmith21]

If you're in a state that is absolutely going to go to one candidate *cough* Kentucky *cough*, might was well vote for Gary Johnson or the LP candidate. If they can garner enough votes, it means a true third party in 2020. Much more important that making sure Trump wins with 75% of the vote instead of 65%

Why do you think a third party will change anything? Great Britain has three major parties plus a bunch of minor ones and their government is a cluster F-up too.

 

[Willy4UK]

Why do you think a third party will change anything? Great Britain has three major parties plus a bunch of minor ones and their government is a cluster F-up too.

It won't with that kinda mindset, DSmith!

I am not sure about those scallywags British imperialist, but Republicans and Democrats have run its course. They both sucks balls, just like when the Whigg and the Tories, starting sucking balls. Hell, Lincoln started out as a Whigg, realized they sucked balls and became a Republican. So you see, once these parties hit the ball sucking stage, it's time for them to GTFO.

 

[TransyCat09]

Why do you think a third party will change anything? Great Britain has three major parties plus a bunch of minor ones and their government is a cluster F-up too.

Well, they also have a parliamentary system, so the comparison isn't exact.

I don't think it will "fix" anything, but giving people another choice, especially one that is presumably ideologically driven, can't be bad.

 

[Catfan in Tn.]

Head scratcher that any Republican would vote for Clinton for President. I would rather just not vote.

 

[vhcat70]

I wasn't aware that a wall knew the difference.

OK, I'll explain: It's like a gun. It's a weapon. Guns don't kill people, people operating them do. It's the people operating the wall - openings for crossing, surveillance - that decide who goes where.

 

[vhcat70]

I wasn't aware that a wall knew the difference.



Bill, I agree that there will never be a wall built...oh, they may build a few miles here, few there.but color me skeptical that more enforcement will yield any tangible results.
Again I equate it to the "War on Drugs". You can never solve the problem from the supply side of the equation. Less supply only drives up prices which in turn increases supply.

IMHO the one step that would be cost effective is to HAMMER the people who profit from illegal workers but there is no political will to do so...from either side.

Israel's walls do a hellava job, don't they? Dems benefit politically from letting illegals have jobs. Companies, Pub or Dem owners, also benefit.