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Let's keep politics out of here. No way we're all going to agree on this.

You've just exhibited more wisdom than what can be found within the minds of the NCAA's leaders.



It's not about progression. The NCAA shouldn't have anything to do with this issue.

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Exactly^^^

The NCAA should try handling its own issues, such as examining the validity of STUDENT-athletes at schools like UNCheat... not get (immediately) involved with the political wills of the voters of this state or that state.

What's next? Will the NCAA take a stand on gun laws, immigration, or abortion? If so, will they then withhold tournament games from places that run contrary to their declared position?
 
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it's fine but it's not ok

yeah that seems like a real substantive distinction

By fine, I don't mean "morally fine". It's their choice...whether I agree with it or not. I'm not going to mistreat a gay or lesbian anymore than I would an adulterer or pornography user. My disagreement with their choice doesn't mean I'm should mistreat them. So, I meant respecting their choice is one thing, but taking legislative action to force me to accept that choice as morally right is not "ok".
 
US teen pregnancy rate has now hit an all-time low (62/10,000 in 1991, now down to 24/10,000). That includes a 50% drop among Latinos and AAs since 2006.

Need some advice on who to credit for this, though. Contraceptives? Feminism? Abortion? Health care access? Receding Christianity?

EDIT: Forgot to include "reality TV shows" on the list of culprits

I think Nancy Reagan's "Just Say No" message finally sank in.
 
http://www.cnn.com/2016/04/29/politics/donald-trump-california-protest/index.html

This cracks me up. Stupid democrats defend these idiots and their "rights" while they come to protest and attack Trump supporters and the cops when they show up!

So many are scared of trump that I think they leave America on their own if he is elected.
I would be all for the government to give these freeloaders a small amount of money to help them move out of the US. Would be a tremendous cost saving in the long run.
 
taking legislative action to force me to accept that choice as morally right is not "ok".

This is the exact complete opposite of that. The state of North Carolina took legislative action to dictate what restrooms transgender people must use and, a much larger issue that's lost in the media storm, enshrined in law the right to discriminate against gay people.
 
So, what's a sane argument for both sides?
I don't have a good answer to that. I'm a conservative Christian, so my spirituals morals define my opinion. But when I speak my opinion (and I do...tempered in love), it is misinterpreted as discriminatory Hate Speech instead of concern for the tenants of my faith.

The reality is: like the normalizing of Gay marriage, this one is a done-deal. The media and liberals won't let things rest until that is true.
 
NCAA announced they will not host games in any state that has anti lgba laws. I say show them who has the real power and support those states by not showing up. It is time for this stupid crap to end and people start using common sense again. If you are a man you should be using the men's restroom.
We should be boycotting these games for other reasons - like trying to end the NCAA cash cow, particularly when they let UNC walk here in the coming weeks/months. And, to shaft the scalpers and make the tournament games more reasonably priced for the average fan's pocket book. The Des Moines ticket resale was a joke, and the Final Four being held in a football stadium? That's absurd.
 
By fine, I don't mean "morally fine". It's their choice...whether I agree with it or not. I'm not going to mistreat a gay or lesbian anymore than I would an adulterer or pornography user. My disagreement with their choice doesn't mean I'm should mistreat them. So, I meant respecting their choice is one thing, but taking legislative action to force me to accept that choice as morally right is not "ok".

i agree with you, but they're not making laws to force you to accept anything. the laws being made are narrowly focused on discriminating and hating one particular group of American citizens, with magic space scientists as justification, and that discriminated-against group is fighting those laws in court because it's not 4,000 years ago anymore.
 
"U.S. economic growth dropped to its slowest pace in two years during the first three months of the year as gross domestic product increased at a seasonally-adjusted annualized rate of 0.5%."

Obama has done a fantastic job managing our economy. Is it "Recovery Summer" yet? Time for another "Cash for Clunkers"?

What an effin joke...and he touts economic recovery as one of his highlights.

Yeah Hillary, please double down on Obama's economic plan.
 
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This is becoming a huge problem in the sports world. Getting involved in politics and morality is a no win situation. It causes division and controversy when all most of us want to do is watch a ballgame. I find myself becoming less and less interested in most organized sports and have fined tuned mine to mostly watching UK. I watch zero professional sports. I trust UK stays out of this type of controversy but with a homosexual mayor of Lexington that may be difficult.

I think the solution to this is not allow transsexuals into any public restroom. They can carry a little potty around to do their business or a private business can put a sign up saying transsexuals are welcome to use their urinals or ladies commode. Target announced sexual deviants were welcome in their store. Those who disapprove can stay out of places like Target and those who welcome deviant behavior / mental illness can use the facility without issue. This will also keep them from being mistreated because if they are not in the women's restroom, some lady will not get the urge to slap them silly when they expose their self to the lady's little girl. Win / Win.
 
If your invested enough to go and get a schlong attached or to have your schlong cut off then by all means use whatever bathroom you like. If you have a schlong and like to dress like a woman then you should use the bathroom for standing up. If you do not have a schlong and dress like a guy then you still should use the girls room.

Simple really.
 
There are only two genders, and no amount of mental illness will change that, sorry, Cap'n Social Justice.
Actually, there are three, scientifically speaking.

Male
Female
Hermaphrodite

The third isn't a mythical being, it's an actual scientific fact that there are people born every day with both genitalia, both reproductive systems, and thus carry levels of both testosterone and estrogen. I just wanted to make sure you were aware that, scientifically, there is a third version of gender in humans. How this works in the bathroom scenario, I've no idea.

Transgender? To me, that's a mental illness. So what, you're a tomboy or sissy growing up, you still have the hardware that public bathrooms are designed to manage. If you have man parts, you stand at the urinal (if any of these lunatics that think they're a woman in a man's body and prefers to sit to piss, then hey guess what, the men's restroom has toilets, too!). If you have woman parts, but think you're a man, do you hover and try to target the urinal? No, you probably still sit on a damned toilet.

And before anyone accuses me of supporting or railing against these absurd laws, I don't trust men at all - we're naturally perverted and there are many out there that can't suppress their sexual desires. Any freak show could try to self-identify as transgender simply to get his perverted self in a stall next to a woman or child (I am a father of a 3-year-old, and I would knock a guy out if he tried that sh*t). However, the fact that any government suddenly thinks there's a huge issue with dudes who think they're women going into the ladies' room is asinine - another "problem" that probably didn't exist, at least not to the levels that a law was required. This is just more emotion baiting in an election year - happens every year. Was/is there really in issue with men strolling into the women's toilets, or was this issue just created out of thin air, or from one single case (thanks media)?
 
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Really a joke the ncaa has made this announcement. They have no expertise to offer to this "issue", as we all see them failing at their main purpose, which is to govern fair play in college athletics evenly. This is an attempt for them to change the subject and to get us to talk about this instead of Roy and the cheats. We're supposed to argue among ourselves instead about the bathroom. Pitiful that many fall for the ploy.
 
People on the left think that people on the right object to transsexuals using the opposite sex restroom. But most people on the right I know are wary of perverts pretending to be transsexuals. And we have already seen examples of just that happening.
I'm neither right nor left, and I know that perverts will pretend to get their rocks off. There are some sick folks out there, and you don't have to subscribe to a particular political party to know this.
 
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Actually, there are three, scientifically speaking.

Male
Female
Hermaphrodite

The third isn't a mythical being, it's an actual scientific fact that there are people born every day with both genitalia, both reproductive systems, and thus carry levels of both testosterone and estrogen. I just wanted to make sure you were aware that, scientifically, there is a third version of gender in humans. How this works in the bathroom scenario, I've no idea.

Alright, my mistake, I forgot the herm mutation.

Spot on about the mental illness as well.
 
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Latest POLITICO Caucus interviews:

“Trump cannot and will not carry Ohio,” a Republican from that state insisted. “He will do well in Appalachia and in the Mahoning Valley but he will get killed in the rest of the state. The danger for the GOP is losing Rob Portman which is a very real possibility under this match-up.”

“I not only think [Hillary] will win Florida in November if Trump is the nominee, I think she'll win 30+ states,” said another Florida Republican.

“NH is potentially a swing state but Hillary would win in a rout with profound down ballot consequences,” wrote one New Hampshire Republican.

Said a Virginia Republican, “Virginia has shifted to be more suburban than rural. While a Trump candidacy will gin up turnout in the Shenandoah Valley and Southwest, Trump will get killed in the suburbs of the urban crescent. Time to focus on Congressional races and 2017.”
 
Latest POLITICO Caucus interviews:

“Trump cannot and will not carry Ohio,” a Republican from that state insisted. “He will do well in Appalachia and in the Mahoning Valley but he will get killed in the rest of the state. The danger for the GOP is losing Rob Portman which is a very real possibility under this match-up.”

“I not only think [Hillary] will win Florida in November if Trump is the nominee, I think she'll win 30+ states,” said another Florida Republican.

“NH is potentially a swing state but Hillary would win in a rout with profound down ballot consequences,” wrote one New Hampshire Republican.

Said a Virginia Republican, “Virginia has shifted to be more suburban than rural. While a Trump candidacy will gin up turnout in the Shenandoah Valley and Southwest, Trump will get killed in the suburbs of the urban crescent. Time to focus on Congressional races and 2017.”

Not a Trump fan, but the republicans have been wrong just about every contest Trump has been in. Rubio to win Florida, Kasich Michigan, Cruz to roll in the south...
 
lol and here I thought if it meant keeping UNC and Duke from having home games in the NCAA tournament, people would be happy

I'm deliriously happy at the prospect of Duke and UNC not getting to play any NCAA tournament games in North Carolina. Kind of Karmic Irony that UNC gets punished in this way rather than the way most everyone expected.
 
Right they can pump all their ignorant rhetoric they want, the bottom line is they are all out of touch with what people want.

He is crushing votes right now and if you combine Kasich/Cruz in the populous Trump still beats them.

Republicans can either be smart and change or get crushed. Same for the democrats because the Hilliary campaign is over after this election.......then who do they run? Height group has a solid candidate worth a shit.
 
We have way too many laws. Pretty sure I've shared bathrooms with transgender people my entire life.

I neither knew it was going on, nor did it have any impact on my life.

I don't know man. In "Moving Violations", when Nedra Volz was sitting on that urinal, I knew something wasn't right. Clearly, it impacted my life, because I still have that image burned on my brain to this day.
 
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NCAA has no business getting in the middle of this
our personal thoughts and feelings on the matter make no difference.
 
yeah just think of all the weird sex stuff that already goes on in bathrooms. Can you imagine how bad it would get if we just allow this during tournament games in random states? Probably couldn't even pee without someone transgendering all over your shoulders or something.

Bathrooms aren't even half of it. Can you imagine what center court is going to look like?

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US teen pregnancy rate has now hit an all-time low (62/10,000 in 1991, now down to 24/10,000). That includes a 50% drop among Latinos and AAs since 2006.

Need some advice on who to credit for this, though. Contraceptives? Feminism? Abortion? Health care access? Receding Christianity?

EDIT: Forgot to include "reality TV shows" on the list of culprits

Aspirin. That and anal sex (only partially kidding). But in all seriousness, good. I think everyone is in favor of a lower teen pregnancy rate.
 
Read some redstate.com last night - wow is that a gloomy place right now. Comments sections are almost entirely about when, not if, the Republican party fractures into two parties. Strange perspective b/c I always thought the death of Republicans is far overstated - it ignores local and state elections. But over there they've reached the depression and bargaining stages already. Yikes.

Interesting article on 538.com on how Hillary's delegate count would be under different scenarios (different delegate apportionment rules). I say interesting b/c I've heard from the left and right that the primary is rigged for her to win. Turns out under Republican rules she would have 3x the lead she does (wonder how Trump would do under D rules?), and under pure % of the vote rules she would have slightly more than she has now (statistically insignificant difference, though). In other words, of the 3 options of R rules, D rules, and pure proportionality rules, she has the least delegates under the D rules. Might use that info when talking to Sanders supporters b/c they're the worst to talk to simply by the sheer amount of buzzwords.
 
Let me first state that the North Carolina law is ridiculous. Let them go to whatever restroom they want. If a pervert causes a problem, deal with it specifically. I don't think it will become an epidemic.

That said, what the hell does this stupid law have to do with the NCAA? These guys regulate sporting events. If this were a racial issue the NCAA would at least have a legitimate reason to take a stance since there are many African-American athletes that fall under their umbrella. There may be a few but I don't know of a single transgender NCAA athlete. This just isn't their fight.
 
When did Americans start giving a f##k about transexuals?
Cant believe that the motivation is financial as Chick Fil A showed that you don't have to cater to the gay mafia to run a prosperous business.
Further evidence of the wussification of America.
 
Morality is seen as hate now. Political correctness has taken the place of morals. Little by little the liberal left has taken over the minds of our youth. Who would have guessed just a few years ago that having men use the men's bathroom would be such a hot topic? Take a stand and you are labeled as a bigot or hate monger. The ability to see right and wrong has become a grey area to many and society will continue to spiral into the toilet.
 
How about boycotting institutions that get away with cheating for two decades from a failed organization that no college program should ever have any confidence in again?

At a minimum EVERY NCAA school should demand the removal of Emmert and also ACC commish Swofford. Every school should agree to that as a starting point.
 
When did Americans start giving a f##k about transexuals?
Cant believe that the motivation is financial as Chick Fil A showed that you don't have to cater to the gay mafia to run a prosperous business.
Further evidence of the wussification of America.

I don't think they give a #### about them now. They just don't want men in the women's bathrooms. Period. I don't see what the problem is.
 
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