Current government budget is over 4.1 trillion. Accounts vary but social programs account for a significant portion of that which could be entirely nixed, somewhere around 35-40%. The number of government employees could be drastically reduced by doing away with entire departments of bureaucracies. Just those by themselves get you almost halfway there without changing any tax structure. Then you start with roughly 3.2 million in the top 1% and just for fun say averaging a million from them, which would obviously be in a tiered system weighted towards those at the top nets you another 3.2 trillion. So total even being conservative is over 5.2 trillion. More than enough.
@IdaCat pointed out that Jeff Bezos is worth approximately 140 billion. Take a billion and he's still worth 139 BILLION. How does that change his quality of life in any way? It doesn't, they're just numbers on a spreadsheet at that point. But 1,200 a month is enough to keep almost everyone else out of poverty. Don't see anything "criminal" about that.By blew up the political world, you mean Hillary didn't win by spending 1.2 billion dollars, rigging the election, and killing Seth Rich.
And no, I don't know anyone in the top 1%. But taking away their money because some guy on a message board is jealous or wants to give it to poor people is laughable. You are the minority on that. It's criminal.
Explain why?You're living in dreamland. This utopia can not exist in reality. You'll have more suffering than now, then your liberal bleeding heart will fall back on the same additional social programs you want to cut.
@IdaCat pointed out that Jeff Bezos is worth approximately 140 billion. Take a billion and he's still worth 139 BILLION. How does that change his quality of life in any way? It doesn't, they're just numbers on a spreadsheet at that point. But 1,200 a month is enough to keep almost everyone else out of poverty. Don't see anything "criminal" about that.
Explain why?
Let's just say your English degree obviously gives you no insight to the cold, hard math of the situation. Socialism is a failed system, and your living wage scheme will fail too, for lack of people to continue to rob to fund it, and for the dependence it creates which leads to stifled productivity.@IdaCat pointed out that Jeff Bezos is worth approximately 140 billion. Take a billion and he's still worth 139 BILLION. How does that change his quality of life in any way? It doesn't, they're just numbers on a spreadsheet at that point. But 1,200 a month is enough to keep almost everyone else out of poverty. Don't see anything "criminal" about that.
What departments and social programs are you going to do away with? Please be specific.Current government budget is over 4.1 trillion. Accounts vary but social programs account for a significant portion of that which could be entirely nixed, somewhere around 35-40%. The number of government employees could be drastically reduced by doing away with entire departments of bureaucracies. Just those by themselves get you almost halfway there without changing any tax structure. Then you start with roughly 3.2 million in the top 1% and just for fun say averaging a million from them, which would obviously be in a tiered system weighted towards those at the top nets you another 3.2 trillion. So total even being conservative is over 5.2 trillion. More than enough.
9 out of every 10 manufacturing jobs lost were lost to mechanization not offshoring.
Tax policy more than anything has created the great divide in wealth distribution. Pre 1980 tax policy was very punitive against extreme incomes. High income earners were more likely to opt for other forms of compensation. Continuing to lower tax rates only exacerbates the problem and will make it worse.
The reasons manufacturers closed here is because it was too expensive to pay US wages. Paying $100 for an item that could be bought for $60 in a free market creates inflation. So while people may be making more in terms of dollars, if prices are inflated then we are no better off and those on fixed incomes become much worse off.
It’s really fascinating having watched and listened to “conservatives” pray at the alter of Reagan for the last 35 years and now are so willing to turn 180 degrees from the ideas that Reagan pushed.
xi & Putin just sitting back grinning their asses off. both spent decades trying to break up the western stranglehold on the world economy. now all they have to do is keep Trump infatuated with Kim and watch him tear the western alliance apart. the presidents you ****wits worship as gods built this global economy. a trade deficit is not = to the US being ripped off. we use the products we buy you monkeys!
This has so far all just been message board banter in response to someone saying we needed a plan, not just more complaining. I agree, so I'm going to take some time and try to put together a more detailed and precise proposal.What departments and social programs are you going to do away with? Please be specific.
This is the entire point of doing it. If they waste it that's their problem, not society's. No bureaucracy needed or really government involvement at all. In a country where everyone is provided a basic standard of living then no one has an excuse for being unstable. It removes all external barriers to success. Any remaining internal ones are the individual's to deal with, and if they don't then they stay at the bottom where they were, but at least they aren't starving or homeless.Your biggest problem is that you can't just give people money. They will waste it. Therefore another huge bureaucracy will be needed to run the program.
This is the entire point of doing it. If they waste it that's their problem, not society's. No bureaucracy needed or really government involvement at all. In a country where everyone is provided a basic standard of living then no one has an excuse for being unstable. It removes all external barriers to success. Any remaining internal ones are the individual's to deal with, and if they don't then they stay at the bottom where they were, but at least they aren't starving or homeless.
the US controls around half the world's wealth. the only way we stop paying for everybody else and having huge deficits is when China takes over as the economic super power. we became #1 by throwing our wealth around to buy up all the influence. we have zero moral high ground any more and now giving up our power with money. I won't be upset if we stop trying to control the world with our wealth. but you xenophobes will flip shit when Mandarin is the new world language. Xi has a 50 year plan of economic & geographic domination and no politics to stop him. the US can't even set a 5 day plan.You think the western alliance is being ripped apart? Why? Because you saw some pictures, some tweets?
I don’t think quite grasp who runs the western alliance you speak of. Do you think we should just fund everything? Do you think it was fair for the allies to not be paying their share of NATO funding, is that a strong alliance?
You’re ignorant argument is that any amount of trade deficit is good? What number is too high?
Lol, have you ever taken economics 101? What is basic universal income...so if i dont want to do anything I can just get paid and buy things? How does this not stop innovation? What makes the govt an expert? Considering govt jobs/programs are funded from other ppls money, they have no reason to be efficient,effective, or productive....you can just steal money again. Do you know what inflation is?Address income inequality. Tax the shit out of the top 1%. Use the money to provide healthcare for all, college joins the rest of free public education, and fund Universal Basic Income. End poverty and welfare at the same time while massively reducing the size of the government bureaucracies that manage them. Make it so no American goes without while correcting the fact that 3 people, Warren Buffet, Bill Gates, and Jeff Bezos have as much money as 160 million Americans, half of the entire country, combined. Work hard and make yourself rich, but no 3 people's lives should be worth as much as half of us.
Here you go baby doll...readAddress income inequality. Tax the shit out of the top 1%. Use the money to provide healthcare for all, college joins the rest of free public education, and fund Universal Basic Income. End poverty and welfare at the same time while massively reducing the size of the government bureaucracies that manage them. Make it so no American goes without while correcting the fact that 3 people, Warren Buffet, Bill Gates, and Jeff Bezos have as much money as 160 million Americans, half of the entire country, combined. Work hard and make yourself rich, but no 3 people's lives should be worth as much as half of us.
@IdaCat pointed out that Jeff Bezos is worth approximately 140 billion. Take a billion and he's still worth 139 BILLION. How does that change his quality of life in any way? It doesn't, they're just numbers on a spreadsheet at that point. But 1,200 a month is enough to keep almost everyone else out of poverty. Don't see anything "criminal" about that.
Don't see anything "criminal" about that.
Dont know if this has already been posted. Im all for letting people be themselves as long as you dont disturb me or others. But Im sorry this is just sad and pretty disgusting by Netflix.
What happened to letting kids be kids and allow them to have some innocence. Why the hell do people feel they have to indoctrinate kids with this crap. I guess they want more of this
9 out of every 10 manufacturing jobs lost were lost to mechanization not offshoring.
The reasons manufacturers closed here is because it was too expensive to pay US wages
Yep, they have won and 40ish percent of our country is complicit.xi & Putin just sitting back grinning their asses off. both spent decades trying to break up the western stranglehold on the world economy. now all they have to do is keep Trump infatuated with Kim and watch him tear the western alliance apart. the presidents you ****wits worship as gods built this global economy. a trade deficit is not = to the US being ripped off. we use the products we buy you monkeys!
9pm tonight our time.Anyone know the exact time of the Kim/trump meet? I read 9am Tuesday but is that tomorrow in the mst zone or est? I haven’t seen the news in over a year so I wanna make sure I’m somewhere with a tv to see some of this coverage.
You can't keep your story straight. You talk about helping people at the extreme low income margins - which we already do to a significant degree - & then talking about giving everyone $1200 a month. Where is that $1200/mo coming from ($450 B per year total from 330M people), Bernie?I agree completely with this sentiment. Ambition is extremely variable among the populace and leads to a vast difference in income which is perfectly acceptable. The problems arise at the extreme margins of both ends. We currently as a society say that people starving and dying is bad, so we set up social programs to help alleviate that. At the same time on the other end 3 Americans have the same net worth as the whole bottom half, 160 million people. I'm in no way advocating Robin Hood taking from the rich and giving to the poor, just taking a small bit from the uber rich that doesn't effect their quality of life in any way other than numbers on a bank spreadsheet and giving to EVERYONE. $1,200 a month won't change the rich's lives in any meaningful way but would really help the middle class and the poor. It's more than almost all will get from these latest tax cuts that many on here think are a good idea.
Good point, how many of the 330 million actually pay taxes?You can't keep your story straight. You talk about helping people at the extreme low income margins - which we already do to a significant degree - & then talking about giving everyone $1200 a month. Where is that $1200/mo coming from ($450 B per year total from 330M people), Bernie?
Pls stop skipping steps. Next step is "$1200 is not enough, we need $1500"....Why don't we just take all of Amazon from Bezos and let the government own and operate it for the benefit of the people?
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The $15 minimum wage is to help spur gun violence in lower income communities so kids don’t have to resort to crime to subsidize their income help raise their family. Right now it’s right around the anniversary Pulse nightclub