I spit my drink out- thanks for the laugh!The time period before you were born.
I spit my drink out- thanks for the laugh!The time period before you were born.
Liberal blathering. "I think there is a lot of truth to this:
I think that when you limit your thinking to one country and identify one country as the source of all wisdom and development, then the fact that much of the rest of the world’s wealthy countries have more or less figured out health coverage doesn’t matter, doesn’t enter into the debate. Or that they’ve figured out gun violence. So we have these endless theoretical debates about what would happen if the police didn’t have guns, or if you had laws banning automatic weapons. And the fact that other countries have done it and you can observe what the results have been doesn’t enter into it. So the fact that the rest of the world has figured out better directions in terms of criminal punishment, moving away from mass incarceration and retributive justice, you know we’re impoverished.
We’re deprived of these sources of wisdom and these experiments in social advances by limiting our understanding to the United States. And the same thing deprives us of world history. You know, people in, kids in U.S. schools are taught almost entirely U.S. history, and as if it’s the only history that matters. We’re taught that, not just that the U.S., but we, identifying ourselves as the U.S. through eternity, we defeated the British in the revolution for freedom, as was necessary, without any mention of Canada, or Australia, or anywhere else that didn’t, and why it was better to have a war or not. We defeated slavery with a civil war, with no mention that much of the rest of the world defeated slavery without a civil war. And so we’re encouraged to support as having been right and necessary anything that the United States did, even if it was a much more mixed picture when you consider the rest of the world.
And so this habit of thinking then makes you prone to go along with whatever the U.S. government now says must be done is justified and necessary. And of course you’ve been trained, conditioned as a robotic little fascist to pledge your obedience to a flag, so that if somebody waves a flag, you are less able to see through what you might otherwise have been able to see through because they’re waving that flag at you.
David Swanson
19 indictments, 5 guilty pleas... sounds like they have found wrongdoing. But keep looking the other way.
And now the mental midget chirps in. Not only did I study civics, I also studied and learned history.Did you ever study civics history. The Dems opposed granting civil rights to women, blacks, gays, etc. it is only now since they failed that they are blaming it all on conservatives. It is only those with a functioning brain that understand this unless they are party hacks who still want the status quo and goose step with the liberal agenda. You seem to lack the common understanding about what is really going on and have been duped with the rest of the ones who truly believe that the left cares about the rights of others.
Didn't shift a damn thing. There was plenty of evidence before the investigation began.Umm, a. You said there most be evidence first before an investigation.. youre now shifting the goal posts.
And 13 russian trolls and 10 year old crimes dont really require a special counsel which is ehat were discussing.
You try to come off as a lot smarter than you are.
I'll just refer you to my posting directly above this one. Checkmate mutha****a!http://mobile.wnd.com/2016/07/the-ugly-history-of-democratic-suppression-of-blacks/
In 1959, when Southern Democrats demanded that any who violated the new civil rights bill should be tried before all-white Southern juries, Republican Vice President Richard Nixon gave the deciding Senate vote to kill the Southern amendment. Southern Democrats who opposed desegregation included former KKK klansman Sen. Robert Byrd and Gov. George Wallace.
After the Birmingham Children’s Crusade Protest, where police dogs and fire hoses were used against African-Americans, President John F. Kennedy called for a bill emulating the Republican Civil Rights Act of 1875.
Southern Democrats fervently opposed it, as Democrat Sen. Richard Russell in 1964: “We will resist to the bitter end any measure or any movement which would have a tendency to bring about social equality and intermingling and amalgamation of the races in our (Southern) states.”
Democrat Sen. Robert Byrd filibustered the Civil Rights Bill for 14 hours and 13 minutes on June 10, 1964.
Democrat Sen. Strom Thurmond stated in 1964: “This so-called Civil Rights Proposals, which the President has sent to Capitol Hill for enactment into law, are unconstitutional, unnecessary, unwise and extend beyond the realm of reason. This is the worst civil-rights package ever presented to the Congress and is reminiscent of the Reconstruction proposals and actions of the radical Republican Congress.”
The phrase “the bribe or the bullet” refers to positive or negative human motivations, as generations of past parents who motivated children with a piece candy for obedience or a swat to the rear for disobedience.
From the Civil War to Lyndon Johnson, Southern Democrats were accused of engaging in negative motivation and intimidation tactics to keep African-Americans from voting.
As television and media coverage of these tactics grew, it resulted in bad press for the Democratic Party. Political strategists proposed a switch from “the bullet” to “the bribe,” from “intimidation” to “entitlement.”
In other words, if the African-American vote could no longer be suppressed, then maybe it could be manipulated and controlled through dependency on entitlement programs.
And here we are today.
https://www.cnn.com/2014/04/10/politics/civil-rights-act-interesting-facts/index.html
More Republicans voted in favor of the Civil Rights Act than Democrats
lol, even CNN won’t lie about it.
So what are they waiting on? You act like the GOP doesn't control the executive and legislative branches of government. Why isn't Trump instructing his AG to go after Hillary and Obama? He said he would...just another lie you fell for.Can you imagine the indictments and convictions you could get out of all of Obama's and Hillary's connections and dealings. If they ever started actually digging like they are with Trump, the former "Swamp" would be imprisoned for a long time. Maybe even receive the death penalty for treason.
Didn't shift a damn thing. There was plenty of evidence before the investigation began.
So what are they waiting on? You act like the GOP doesn't control the executive and legislative branches of government. Why isn't Trump instructing his AG to go after Hillary and Obama? He said he would...just another lie you fell for.
I'll just refer you to my posting directly above this one. Checkmate mutha****a!
I think there is a lot of truth to this:
I think that when you limit your thinking to one country and identify one country as the source of all wisdom and development, then the fact that much of the rest of the world’s wealthy countries have more or less figured out health coverage doesn’t matter, doesn’t enter into the debate. Or that they’ve figured out gun violence. So we have these endless theoretical debates about what would happen if the police didn’t have guns, or if you had laws banning automatic weapons. And the fact that other countries have done it and you can observe what the results have been doesn’t enter into it.
The dossier was the main evidence. Really the only evidence. It was also the catalyst for the FISA warrants. That's an undisputable fact. Know we all know the dossier is fake Clinton paid for Russian smear and lies. That's also an undisputable fact.Didn't shift a damn thing. There was plenty of evidence before the investigation began.
Didn't shift a damn thing. There was plenty of evidence before the investigation began.
What changed that Republicans started referring to themselves as Conservatives and not Republicans. That any GOP politician that doesn't walk the party line is referred to as a RINO?No doubt there was a divide between the north and south. No denying that, but that doesn’t change their party affiliation. You act today as a liberal/Democrat is some fighter for the little guy. For the miniority. What changed from party affiliation not mattering in 1964 to party affiliation being everything in 2018?
You yourself said Dems were for all the blacks and conservatives weren’t, then in the next post claim it doesn’t matter what party they were in. Which is it?
Take it up with your own party Bill, they obviously felt otherwise. Obama or Clinton didn't appoint the special prosecutor.There was no crime fuzz, a special prosecutor was appointed without a crime.
The prior admin was spying on the incoming admin and using the info to damage it.
Think about that for a second, why would the Obama admin something so outlandish?
After you tell me more about the "plenty of evidence before the investigation began".Please tell us more.![]()
The Cato Institute ( A conservative think tank) ranks the US 17th in the world in freedom. I see quite a few European nations ahead of us. So much for "less freedom".It sounds like he's advocating for globalism, to be more like Europe, big government and less freedom. Everything America was founded against and meant not to be.
The healthcare argument is a false equivalency. Those countries who "have figured it out" don't have a population of +300 million. It's virtually impossible for the US to give free healthcare to everyone. If we ever do the service will be overwhelmed and atrocious. There are reasons a lot of them choose come here for the best healthcare instead of their own country who has "figured it out".
Here in America we have a constitutional, God given right to bear arms. Why should law abiding citizens suffer the consequences from the actions of criminals? Those countries approach to guns is an affront to freedom. A society who punishes and denies its citizens because of the actions of criminals is not a free society and definitely not one I'm interested in.
How many of those countries have banned guns, banned knives, have speech laws, throw people in jail for what they post on the Internet, etc, etc, etc?The Cato Institute ( A conservative think tank) ranks the US 17th in the world in freedom. I see quite a few European nations ahead of us. So much for "less freedom".
The top 10 jurisdictions in order were Switzerland, Hong Kong, New Zealand, Ireland, Australia, Finland, Norway, Denmark, and, tied at 9th place, the Netherlands, and the United Kingdom. Selected countries rank as follows: Canada (11), Sweden (13), Germany (16), the United States (17),
Why does our population size mean we can't have healthcare? that is the absolutely dumbest argument you could ever make. Our GDP to population size ratio is better than any EU country. US GDP per capita is about 60k. EU GDP per capita is about 40k and they still manage to give everyone healthcare just fine. ****ing china has universal healthcare, their GDP per capita is like 15k. If we removed all the insurance companies and only charged people 60% in tax of what they were paying in premiums we could fund Healthcare for all of North and south america.It sounds like he's advocating for globalism, to be more like Europe, big government and less freedom. Everything America was founded against and meant not to be.
The healthcare argument is a false equivalency. Those countries who "have figured it out" don't have a population of +300 million. It's virtually impossible for the US to give free healthcare to everyone. If we ever do the service will be overwhelmed and atrocious. There are reasons a lot of them choose come here for the best healthcare instead of their own country who has "figured it out".
Here in America we have a constitutional, God given right to bear arms. Why should law abiding citizens suffer the consequences from the actions of criminals? Those countries approach to guns is an affront to freedom. A society who punishes and denies its citizens because of the actions of criminals is not a free society and definitely not one I'm interested in.
LoL, so you'll trade the entire Civil Rights era, back to segregation, Jim Crow, women's suffrage, legal discrimination, etc for getting rid of the Federal Reserve and income tax... let me guess, you're a white male?Some point before Woodrow Wilson. Not that America was perfect, but I'd start with getting rid of the Federal Reserve, the income tax and all the government expansions since then.
Vote for Bernie and see how that works out for you. Maybe you'll get your wish and we'll all have shitty third rate healthcare.Why does our population size mean we can't have healthcare? that is the absolutely dumbest argument you could ever make. Our GDP to population size ratio is better than any EU country. US GDP per capita is about 60k. EU GDP per capita is about 40k and they still manage to give everyone healthcare just fine. ****ing china has universal healthcare, their GDP per capita is like 15k. If we removed all the insurance companies and only charged people 60% in tax of what they were paying in premiums we could fund Healthcare for all of North and south america.
Your ignorance is showing. Stricter gun laws...yes. Free speech, right to assembly, etc... yep! Please tell me about all the political prisoners in Canada.How many of those countries have banned guns, banned knives, have speech laws, throw people in jail for what they post on the Internet, etc, etc, etc?
I guess freedom must be entirely subjective. Maybe they're happy with being censored, denied and imprisoned for thoughts and speech. Seems like the type of society just waiting for a dictator to take hold.
Except that so called "third rate healthcare" results in people living longer and overall more healthy.Vote for Bernie and see how that works out for you. Maybe you'll get your wish and we'll all have shitty third rate healthcare.
Bill, you don't think there was any crime. You've simply chosen to pick a side and go with their story. How are we different?There was no crime fuzz, a special prosecutor was appointed without a crime.
The prior admin was spying on the incoming admin and using the info to damage it.
Think about that for a second, why would the Obama admin something so outlandish?
My ignorance is showing? Canada and free speech don't belong in the same sentence. They're arresting people for speech and online postings.Your ignorance is showing. Stricter gun laws...yes. Free speech, right to assembly, etc... yep! Please tell me about all the political prisoners in Canada.
After waiting months sometimes years for a procedure. If their's is so great then can stop coming here for healthcare.Except that so called "third rate healthcare" results in people living longer and overall more healthy.
You really need to get out and see the world.
LoL, so you'll trade the entire Civil Rights era, back to segregation, Jim Crow, women's suffrage, legal discrimination, etc for getting rid of the Federal Reserve and income tax... let me guess, you're a white male?
Now we don't get to move forward from there because otherwise we just end up where we are today. That's the America that you want?
There's evidence of the crimes, illegal unmasking, illegal leaking and spying on his side. Your side has nothing but feelings and hate for Trump. No evidence of collusion.Bill, you don't think there was any crime. You've simply chosen to pick a side and go with their story. How are we different?
The Constitution is designed to allow change. It's designed to uphold the will of the people and the framers knew that ideas change with time. Did you completely flunk civics or did you just never take the class?
Conservatives by definition are opposed to change. Conservatives opposed granting civil rights to women, blacks, gays, etc. They opposed laws and regulations put forth to protect people and places. Our rivers and the air is cleaner now than 50 years ago because liberals sought regulations on industries that were poisoning our air and waters. As a kid the entire east side of town was covered with black soot that spewed from the power plant in town. When we moved into town my dad was told to be sure and live to the west of power plant because of it. We were told not to eat the fish from the river because of the toxic waste that was dumped upstream. We had methods to remove that soot, remove those poisons it only required that the businesses that produced those toxins to do so.
I love that my country allows the free flow of ideas and has a form of government that allows the people to express those ideas and act upon them. I love that when it sees wrong that it has a way for us to right those wrongs. We all advocate for those things that are important to us. I want our government to truly be "by the people, for the people". You seem to advocate that it should be whatever it was for the people at some point in time and never change from there...is that what you're saying?
I've asked this question in the past and nobody ever gives a straight answer. If you could rollback America to some date when it was perfect or close enough for you...what is that date?
the us already has shitty third rate healthcare.Vote for Bernie and see how that works out for you. Maybe you'll get your wish and we'll all have shitty third rate healthcare.
the us already has shitty third rate healthcare.