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This place continues to be an eye-opener for me.

I guess I'll (somehow unironically) add TEACHERS to the list of people who get ragged on in this thread. Yes, I suppose educators fit in well with the liberal lunatics, Muslims, etc. that you guys live to despise.

Do you guys all home-school or something? Private Christian schools?
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The Bum in Chief actually admitted - on video - that he had no idea what a community college was. This was yesterday.

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Chuck Todd would never write such a frivolous little message on a Muslim holy day or a Hindu holy day etc.
Bingo. The double standard bothers me more than anything. They would never ever in a million years criticize or question anything about islam the way they do with christians.

Remember Joy Behars comment about Pence recently? Think she would dare say something like that about a muslim?
 
Each state is different , not sure of the requirements are beyond a bachelors degree. Seems they want the teachers to have a master's or working toward one.
As for their raises , would be better to spread it out incrementally over years IMO.

Saw an interesting documentary on the Finnish system, which is one the best in the world.
They seem to have much more flexibility in the curriculum and how they present it than in the US. Talked how they have much less administrators, standardized testing and inspections. Considering the country was a backwoods, rural country 60 years ago.
That's because, when ppl say they are socialist, what it actually means is all of their citizens make decisions what's best for everyone, not the govt. Basically all citizens are stakeholders in the govt, unlike say a Bernie, who wants the govt to tell everyone what's best.

Also, as already said...things are a lot different when your entire country is the population of a midwestern city and every single person is exactly the same.
 
Shouldn’t the market decide on this one?


The superintendent of JCPS is responsible for a budget of $1.1 B. You need a talented person in that job, and that's going to cost you a pretty hefty salary.

Each and every superintendent is an extremely powerful person politically. Maybe the most powerful in that county. There's nothing free market about it.

The administrative expenses in these counties are absurd. You could cut 75% of them and noone would notice.

Exactly. People see salaries of $100K, $150K, $200K and think they are extreme. For the responsibility and budgets they have to manage it's the price you pay.
Those same people have defended private companies paying executives multi-million salaries which filters down to VPs, directors, etc. making mid to high 6 figure salaries. The flip side of that is when private sector salaries rise, public sector salaries must also rise to attract appropriate talent.

For what they do they're absolutely extreme. Jcps had numerous people making exorbitant salaries meanwhile teachers were having to spend out of pocket for school supplies. It was so bad the state almost took over.

If a corporation wants to spend their own money, they can pay whomever whatever. Their choice. Government is a whole different ball game. They're spending our money.

This place continues to be an eye-opener for me.

I guess I'll (somehow unironically) add TEACHERS to the list of people who get ragged on in this thread. Yes, I suppose educators fit in well with the liberal lunatics, Muslims, etc. that you guys live to despise.

Do you guys all home-school or something? Private Christian schools?

And you wonder why we're getting our asses kicked by other countries when it comes to research/STEM/? Wait, no...if you're "America First" then you don't give a damn how we stack up against the rest of the world in regards to education. Just get a job, any job, and vote Republican for the rest of your life, I guess. I've seen the idea of going to college get blasted on here, numerous times. LMAO! So, so weak.

The anti-teacher comments in this thread are 100% unsurprising. We don't place an emphasis on educating kids at the highest level. That starts with the government and...uh..."trickles down" to the voters. The value we place on public education needs to be re-examined as soon as we stop giving the military "BILLIONS AND BILLIONS" of dollars every month.

The Bum in Chief actually admitted - on video - that he had no idea what a community college was. This was yesterday.

We're getting our asses kicked because the institution called education is horrible. It focuses on bringing the top down instead of the bottom up. For both students and teachers. Largely because of unions and consolidated federal control

Top students and teachers are held back to accommodate low performers. Not the other way around
 
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That's because, when ppl say they are socialist, what it actually means is all of their citizens make decisions what's best for everyone, not the govt. Basically all citizens are stakeholders in the govt, unlike say a Bernie, who wants the govt to tell everyone what's best.

Also, as already said...things are a lot different when your entire country is the population of a midwestern city and every single person is exactly the same.

^This. There are more people in Chicago than there are in Finland. Now imagine nobody in Chicago was poor and they were all white and of Scandinavian descent. Chicago would be the greatest city of all time.
 
This place continues to be an eye-opener for me.

I guess I'll (somehow unironically) add TEACHERS to the list of people who get ragged on in this thread. Yes, I suppose educators fit in well with the liberal lunatics, Muslims, etc. that you guys live to despise.

Do you guys all home-school or something? Private Christian schools?

And you wonder why we're getting our asses kicked by other countries when it comes to research/STEM/? Wait, no...if you're "America First" then you don't give a damn how we stack up against the rest of the world in regards to education. Just get a job, any job, and vote Republican for the rest of your life, I guess. I've seen the idea of going to college get blasted on here, numerous times. LMAO! So, so weak.

The anti-teacher comments in this thread are 100% unsurprising. We don't place an emphasis on educating kids at the highest level. That starts with the government and...uh..."trickles down" to the voters. The value we place on public education needs to be re-examined as soon as we stop giving the military "BILLIONS AND BILLIONS" of dollars every month.

The Bum in Chief actually admitted - on video - that he had no idea what a community college was. This was yesterday.

Man, for a teacher you have terrible reading comprehension


I didn't say I was anti teacher. I'm anti people like YOU being a teacher. I don't care which way you vote, but people like you and welching fuzzy nuts are the exact type of people who are ruining the education system.

You can't just teach. You have to attempt to indoctrinate. Instead of history you're teaching white guilt. You're the type that's saying math is racist. You're shoving climate change down their throats. You more than likely have bashed Trump to your class multiple times.

No, you're not a teacher. You found the only job that forced kids to listen to whatever you say. It's your way of having power. You couldn't succeed in a job where you have to communicate with adults and maybe even sell.. no, you have to have the threat of failing or detention to get your power.

It's your type that I'm anti. Forcing classes to have transition parties for the 8 year oldboy who wants to be a girl this week.

Liberals shouldn't be allowed within a mile from schools. Somehow, you effers have taken them over. No wonder teen suicide and depression is up 20 and 40% since 2012.

It's absurd. You assholes have taken over education and media. The 2 careers that shape the minds of our young and our less bright.

So yeah.. I'm anti political indoctrinating liberal douches... not anti teacher
 
And there you go. Stop keeping those who defend our country safer with better equipment and just let them get killed. Yet you wonder why we oppose you on these other issues. Your ridiculous stance on funding the military and your emotional post on how much is being spent shows your real intentions. Go back to partying bro and please skip all elections.
Complaining about government spending on education in one breath and praising government spending on the military in the next. Oh yeah, aren't you part of the military? PORK
 
Complaining about government spending on education in one breath and praising government spending on the military in the next. Oh yeah, aren't you part of the military? PORK
No, if you have read my post on this in the past and another after that one perhaps you would understand the point. But, given your postings of recent days I doubt you would understand. people like you are one way Charlies. Do it our way or you are a racist, fascist, bigoted, misogynist, homophobic xenophobe. The last two are contradictory which is your kind anyway so, nevermind.
 
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Bingo. The double standard bothers me more than anything. They would never ever in a million years criticize or question anything about islam the way they do with christians.

Remember Joy Behars comment about Pence recently? Think she would dare say something like that about a muslim?
No she wouldn't. But she and idiots like her would trip on their dicks to call you an islamaphobe if you point out that mooslums are a clear and present danger to our way of life.
 
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Honestly don't know where to start with this one.

The left is fighting for illegal aliens to have the Constitutional right to kill anchor babies?

I really think the one single position the left isn't hypocritical on, is any and all people should have the right to murder babies. Doesn't matter who, what or where you are, the left will fight for your right to kill a baby.
 
Man, for a teacher you have terrible reading comprehension


I didn't say I was anti teacher. I'm anti people like YOU being a teacher. I don't care which way you vote, but people like you and welching fuzzy nuts are the exact type of people who are ruining the education system.

You can't just teach. You have to attempt to indoctrinate. Instead of history you're teaching white guilt. You're the type that's saying math is racist. You're shoving climate change down their throats. You more than likely have bashed Trump to your class multiple times.

No, you're not a teacher. You found the only job that forced kids to listen to whatever you say. It's your way of having power. You couldn't succeed in a job where you have to communicate with adults and maybe even sell.. no, you have to have the threat of failing or detention to get your power.

It's your type that I'm anti. Forcing classes to have transition parties for the 8 year oldboy who wants to be a girl this week.

Liberals shouldn't be allowed within a mile from schools. Somehow, you effers have taken them over. No wonder teen suicide and depression is up 20 and 40% since 2012.

It's absurd. You assholes have taken over education and media. The 2 careers that shape the minds of our young and our less bright.

So yeah.. I'm anti political indoctrinating liberal douches... not anti teacher

Agree. Teachers that do these things should not be in the profession.
 
Complaining about government spending on education in one breath and praising government spending on the military in the next. Oh yeah, aren't you part of the military? PORK
Are you opposed to spending on military in general or wasteful spending...like 100's of dollars a bale for a certain type of hay??? (My mother was a purchasing agent for the Army in the70's and she told me the story of how she had to find and buy a certain type of hay that cost over $100 a bale).

IMO, spending the amount necessary to have the most powerful military and weapons in the world, is appropriate. Just eliminate the waste. Likewise with education.
 
This thread has become almost unbearable with all these Parkland Student tweets, etc. When did grown ass adults become so obsessed with what a 17 year old brat has to say???

He was sent to control the narrative and he would have went away pretty soon. Seems like the controllers have subverted the alt media to keep the fake going from both sides.

The fight for controlling the narrative is all that is left. The shift in actual power is taking place and some are not too happy about it.

Peter Munk- dead
David Rockefeller- dead
Zbigniew Brzezinski- dead
Bandar Bush bin sultan- cut off and arrested
Al-waleed bin Talal- cut off and arrested

FBI-
Comey
McCabe
Ribicki
Page
Strozk
Baker
Demoted or outed

Fakebook being outed for the spy tool that it is. Eric Schmidt out at google.

NK to the table Xi meets with Kim in china for the first time since 2011 and now will meet with Trump.
Troops pulling out of Syria and money on hold. DJT asked SA for $4bill for Syria.

The list is endless of the real news that we could be talking about.
 
He was sent to control the narrative and he would have went away pretty soon. Seems like the controllers have subverted the alt media to keep the fake going from both sides.

The fight for controlling the narrative is all that is left. The shift in actual power is taking place and some are not too happy about it.

Peter Munk- dead
David Rockefeller- dead
Zbigniew Brzezinski- dead
Bandar Bush bin sultan- cut off and arrested
Al-waleed bin Talal- cut off and arrested

FBI-
Comey
McCabe
Ribicki
Page
Strozk
Baker
Demoted or outed

Fakebook being outed for the spy tool that it is. Eric Schmidt out at google.

NK to the table Xi meets with Kim in china for the first time since 2011 and now will meet with Trump.
Troops pulling out of Syria and money on hold. DJT asked SA for $4bill for Syria.

The list is endless of the real news that we could be talking about.

Donald is fn crushing it. It’s really unbelievable how much he’s accomplished in such little time.
 
Wasn't Sessions one of the people who argued Clinton and people in the Obama administration shouldn't be prosecuted for their crimes since we shouldn't get in the habit of prosecuting politicians for crimes they commit in office? Oh the irony.

(Note: I don't think Sessions actually committed any crimes. Mueller is just trying to take down anyone and everyone since he was involved in all the real crimes.)
 
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Mueller's "gotcha" on Sessions is toned-down rhetoric in the party platform at the convention? That's absolutely ridiculous. The platform is entirely meaningless inconsequential rhetoric. Shows me Mueller's is grasping at straws. The witch hunt needs to end.
 
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Mueller's "gotcha" on Sessions is toned-down rhetoric in the party platform at the convention? That's absolutely ridiculous. The platform is entirely meaningless inconsequential rhetoric. Shows me Mueller's is grasping at straws. The witch hunt needs to end.

He's been grasping at straws all along. There was never anything there. Trump and co were illegally wiretapped for months. If there was ANYTHING, we would've known it prior to the election.

It's just a stall. Trying to hold on till midterms at least. That's all it ever was.

I mean - my god we all saw the leaked memo from the Dem donor meeting years ago where they laid out how they would attack trump if he was nominated. Racist, sexist, and pretend he has ties to Russia. We saw it. IT WAS IN THE MEMO. It all played out before our very eyes, and everyone goes along with the charade.
 
Are you opposed to spending on military in general or wasteful spending...like 100's of dollars a bale for a certain type of hay??? (My mother was a purchasing agent for the Army in the70's and she told me the story of how she had to find and buy a certain type of hay that cost over $100 a bale).

IMO, spending the amount necessary to have the most powerful military and weapons in the world, is appropriate. Just eliminate the waste. Likewise with education.

I agree with this sentiment, but I don't know if it is actually possible. $100 bales of hay, $5000 hammers, and absurd wages for administrators are systematic.
 
Donald is fn crushing it. It’s really unbelievable how much he’s accomplished in such little time.



Liberal World Order, R.I.P.

The liberal world order is under threat from its principal architect: the United States.
Article by Richard N. Haass-Dr. Richard Haass is in his fifteenth year as president of the Council on Foreign Relations, an independent, nonpartisan membership organization, think tank, publisher, and educational institution dedicated to being a resource to help people better understand the world and the foreign policy choices facing the United States and other countries.
Originally published at Project Syndicate
March 21, 2018

“The United States, for its part, is a weary titan, no longer willing to bear the burdens of global leadership, either economically or geopolitically.


Trump treats alliances as a protection racket, and the world economy as an arena of zero-sum competition. The result is a fraying liberal international order without a champion willing to invest in the system itself.”-Richard N. Haass
 
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I’m going to defend Sessions for a minute, and try to look at why he may have chosen to act as he has.
On his recusal from the Russia investigation maybe he knew there was no there, there. The anger over the 2 AG’s refusal to recuse themselves from investigations that they clearly should have pushed him to try to do the right thing. In hindsight it was dumb on his part for assuming the Dems would take the high road, but he also didn’t know Trump was going to fire Comey.
As for an independent counsel, again, Sessions is acting appropriately and political on this. A special counsel isn’t appointed to look for a crime, unlike Muellers appt, so Sessions wants to have all the law on his side if he chooses to go that route. Secondly, and probably more likely, is the threat of him legally being able to appoint one has more of an effect of keeping Mueller and the Dems in check.
 
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