Perhaps that is why 72% voted for someone else.Absolutely amazed that Cruz is leading. I get the Christian thing but most people do not like the guy.
Hillary used Harvey Dent's 2 sided coin to steal some precinctsCarson camp saying Cruz camp told people he's dropping out, and may as well vote Cruz.
which is why Rubio's last minute rise was zero surprise for me. He will roll to the GOP nom from here. And GTFO with this 'RINO' nonsense labeling him, Rubio as the GOP nomination is far more conservative than any nominee on our side since Reagan. Just 6 years ago the freaking RINO establishment tried to crush him so they could get their favorite guy to win the FL senate - Charlie freaking Crist.
which is why Rubio's last minute rise was zero surprise for me. He will roll to the GOP nom from here. And GTFO with this 'RINO' nonsense labeling him, Rubio as the GOP nomination is far more conservative than any nominee on our side since Reagan. Just 6 years ago the freaking RINO establishment tried to crush him so they could get their favorite guy to win the FL senate - Charlie freaking Crist.
What hospital turns away sick patients and lets them die on the curb instead? Hospitals treat deadbeats who dont pay a dime but run into the emergency rooms for the slightest runny nose or cough.
I'm a bit behind, just wanted to get back on a few things.
Once again, you're making careless generalizations about the impact on women, both with delivering a fully developed infant or choosing to end a pregnancy. It's not absolute, black and white, women think like this or women think like that.
The issue of the woman's right to decide and how it impacts her physical and emotional person is a strawman? Do you think a society's overall health is a strawman when considering health care coverage? Or maybe you believe the aging population of the US is a strawman argument when discussing the solvency of Social Security. Or that political contributions and tax breaks are strawmen when deciding energy policy?
If you don't care about the woman's body then you don't care about the baby that she would ultimately deliver if myriad factors go well. The woman has to go through a lot of sh*t, even if she chooses to terminate the pregnancy. You're just slovenly dismissing the woman's involvement in the gestational process in an attempt to make your argument easier, as long as she becomes the robotic vessel in which to pop out kids.
Never mind that pregnancy complications are the 6th most common cause of death for women in the US between the ages of 20 and 34.
A woman's rights over her own body and life is a strawman in the subject of abortion is one of the most obtuse takes I've seen in this thread.
Watching FoxNews would make you believe Trump lost the nomination. Must still be butt hurt over him skipping their debate. Rubio is just the Republican's version of Obama. Minority, inexperienced, no real resume to speak of, a puppet to their donors and lobbyists. Cannot see him having the guts and knowledge it will take to fix this country. If he is the only one left in the general to choose from then he gets my vote because he is infinitely better than what the Dems are putting out.
Yep that is the best thing to do if your not sure which idiot is best.
Sadly with more time going by I am seeing the candidates for what they are. Bernie is truly the most honest at this point. I hate what he is about, but I am 100% sure I know what he is about !
Hillary used Harvey Dent's 2 sided coin to steal some precincts
(well, probably not, but who would really be shocked or surprised?)
Cruz sounds and acts like a slimeball. Just another typical politician. Read that guy the first time I ever heard him speak. Carson is the only guy with true ethics, but does not have the personality to excite the masses.http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/201...uses-cruz-camp-of-foul-play-at-iowa-caucuses/
Carson camp saying Cruz camp told people he's dropping out, and may as well vote Cruz.
Cruz sounds and acts like a slimeball..
Yep. I at least know where he stands whereas guys like Cruz and others pretend to be something they are not. I would rather support the devil I know rather than the one I do not.Aren't you a Trump supporter? Really?
Do you know where he stands? While all politicians lie badly, factcheck.org and politifact.org, which check statements of truth show him as the worst of all.Yep. I at least know where he stands whereas guys like Cruz and others pretend to be something they are not. I would rather support the devil I know rather than the one I do not.
Very funny, and all the leftist media who were bemoaning how white Iowa was leading up to yesterday. yet none note the diversity among the top 4 finishers on the GOP side.....especially compared to what the Dems had to chose from.It is slightly funny Trump was the only white guy in the top 4 for the Republicans. Racists and whatnot
William F Buckley: "I'm for the most conservative candidate that can win."
That's Marco Rubio.
Where is Rubio or Cruz going to get the votes? Mitt Romney got blown out and he was a better qualified person than Rubio and Cruz combined. There are some republicans who just live in fantasy land.
When either one of these turds get beat this November, don't rush on here like you're surprised.
This process is going to evolve IMO. Trump doesn't command a majority of GOP voters IMO. Cruz has high unfavorables. Things are going to coalesce around Rubio in the next couple of months IMO. Plus, I'm convinced that in a general election, people are pretty visual unfortunately, and Rubio wins there.
I spend way too much time reading about politics and I cannot tell you Trump's definitive position on any specific issue.
It's not so much expectations, than what I think will happen. However, as of today, I'm voting Rubio, if I decide to try out Kentucky's caucus process........ (thank you Rand Paul..... #sarcasm)
For the record, it's best not to get too excited over any politician, but in the US, we can vote and participate, so I plan to.
That's fantasy land, I'm talking about. He doesn't carry the demographics to win.
Long way to go, of course, but would a Rubio/ Kasich ticket help solve some of that? Rubio/ Carson?
Where is Rubio or Cruz going to get the votes? Mitt Romney got blown out and he was a better qualified person than Rubio and Cruz combined. There are some republicans who just live in fantasy land.
When either one of these turds get beat this November, don't rush on here like you're surprised.
I assume it's two groups: feminists and those that think we will return to the 1990s when Bill was president. I'm not saying that Bill was a good pres, but for the most part, times were good. I think that is what people see in her.
Also the hipster movement or whatever you call it where the special Ed kids keep getting elected king & queen of the prom. Let's be different.
hahahaaha fair enough
I seriously wish it was Trump just as a big eff you to DC and you wouldn't have a puppet in there but you would probably have an egomaniac though.
We seriously got to get away from the religious stuff and I say this as someone who does believe in God. We can't keep falling for this crap.
I get those who don't like Rubio because he ran as a tea party guy, strong on border stuff - and then immediately joined the establishment crowed (Shumer!!), seemingly going exactly the opposite way. Galling. I get those who look at Rubio and see an Obama clone: first term senator, hasn't done anything, no record to speak of - young, handsome and articulate is no way to pick a president. I get those, like Willy and Boss, who think it doesn't really matter anyway - they are all the same.
But I think it does matter. I think some would be worse than others. I think a Hillary presidency would be bad for the country. I also think, if Trump or, especially Cruz, is the nominee, they will be vilified like no other candidate in modern history and would suffer an ass-kicking of historic proportions. I like some of the other Rs, but for whatever reason they aren't taking. Some of them - Kasich, Christie in certain contexts - may each be as electable as Rubio, and certainly may be better qualified. But it just isn't happening.
That leaves Rubio. He's the one guy left who can i) get the nomination and ii) beat Hillary in November.
And the others know it. We're talking about a guy who, before last night, was mired in the middle of the pack, not a real threat seemingly to anyone. And yet:
"The Right to Rise super PAC, which Jeb Bush formed to support his candidacy, has spent $20 million of the more than $103 million it’s raised attacking Rubio..."
"Rubio has been the target of $8.5 million in negative ads — by far the most of any candidate in the field."
"Senator Ted Cruz, scrambling to put down a growing threat in Iowa from Senator Marco Rubio, is shifting nearly all of his negative advertising from Donald J. Trump to Mr. Rubio..."
Trump, Cruz and Hillary have all been hitting Rubio disproportionately, and Bush has emptied most of his arsenal on Rubio. They all know who the real threat to win is.......
Sorry if it's already been said, but Iowa just weeds out the field. Winning Iowa isn't the key, finishing in the top 4 is.
On the same wave length as you. I by no means think Trump is the greatest thing ever. He is essentially an Independent running as a Republican. I really could care less about his social views. The GOP has got to get with the times. Holding a Bible and throwing stones at folks who have abortions has not done anything to keep us from being the situation we are in now. I do not think any different of folks who have those strong beliefs. I believe in God but I am not going to use knowing a Bible verse as the main credential to get this country out of the mess it is in right now. I just think he is the best equipped to fix this economy and national debt which I think is the greatest threat to my generation and this country as a whole. Anyone who thinks he is going to press a button to launch a nuke are just blowing smoke.That's the reason why I'll consider voting for him in the general of he gets the nod.
But you're last line is correct. In the 80s, that worked hook, line, and sinker. But now, it doesn't hold the weight it use to. The GOP have to change with the times.
Where is Rubio or Cruz going to get the votes? Mitt Romney got blown out and he was a better qualified person than Rubio and Cruz combined. There are some republicans who just live in fantasy land.
When either one of these turds get beat this November, don't rush on here like you're surprised.
Long way to go, of course, but would a Rubio/ Kasich ticket help solve some of that? Rubio/ Carson?
as much I hate Hillary the worst, i cannot do the "anything but Hillary" vote. That is a waste of vote. If Rubio is elected, we will continue to regress towards a more shittier America. At this point, I'm not sure Rubio is any better than Hillary. They are both terrible candidates.
I think thats the only real hope. That plus the greatly increased GOP voter turnout. To me, the turnout was the telling outcome from Iowa.
Yes Rubio would be a shittier America. But Hillary would be the end. At least Rubio wouldnt damage the country beyond repair.