POLITICAL THREAD
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As they should. The voters want actual change and for these mother effers to do what they say they're going to do. The McCain and Ryan types are the ones playing games and shit. The voters want Trump. We want his agenda. We don't like two losers like Romney and McCain.
What McCain is for is stopping victories for Donald Trump.
One big positive from the health care debacle is that these RINO's are now fully out in the open. Shining a light on them will help expose them for their next elections.
Trump needs to get Joe Manchin (while convincing him to stay registered Dem) and put him in his cabinet somewhere. Getting a few moderate Dems in his administration would be one step closer to a solidifying a third party.
Trump needs to get Joe Manchin (while convincing him to stay registered Dem) and put him in his cabinet somewhere. Getting a few moderate Dems in his administration would be one step closer to a solidifying a third party.
McCain voted the way Graham wanted him to. They think this hurts Trump while giving the Republican establishment that don't have brain tumors cover.
Outside the beltway we see them all for the clowns they are.
Why would Graham want McCain to vote no on a Bill he has worked so hard to pass? McCain just being his regular jackass self.
The Bill was never meant to pass, they know it. The only way to fully do away with obamacare with as little political collateral damage as possible, is to let it fail.
All this bill was about is trying to get Graham reelected, he's in trouble this next election. Now he can say he sponsored a bill that would've saved healthcare, and still say he opposed obamacare. Mccain being his friend ensured it never passed, thats a win-win for those 2 dickheads.
All this bill was about is trying to get Graham reelected, he's in trouble this next election. Now he can say he sponsored a bill that would've saved healthcare, and still say he opposed obamacare. Mccain being his friend ensured it never passed, thats a win-win for those 2 dickheads.
Because now it looks like the guys who are running for reelection tried to get something done, but the guy who isn't running for reelection came in to stop it. Graham and the establishment can say he tried to get repeal and replace (lie, this was never repeal and replace) but rogue senators stopped it.
I'm not falling for it.
Look at what Grassley said the other day. They all know the bill was shit, but were just doing it to say they did it.
I can't stand Mccain, I don't wish him to die, but I sure wish he'd quietly go out to pasture.
Watching Ken Burns documentary on Vietnam last night, and they had a clip of Mccain after his capture crying like a scared little boy to the NVA. You're a GD Naval officer, act like it!
He sucked at Annapolis, but his Daddy and Grandaddy were admirals so he got through, he damn near sank the Forrestal, and shouldve went to the brig, but see his daddy and grandaddy. Then he was captured and playedit for what it was worth to become a Senator.
Watching Ken Burns documentary on Vietnam last night, and they had a clip of Mccain after his capture crying like a scared little boy to the NVA. You're a GD Naval officer, act like it!
He sucked at Annapolis, but his Daddy and Grandaddy were admirals so he got through, he damn near sank the Forrestal, and shouldve went to the brig, but see his daddy and grandaddy. Then he was captured and playedit for what it was worth to become a Senator.
Their entire existence is a waste of time. The only thing they actually do is pass bills to spy on Americans. They can's pass a budget. Can't pass actual legislation they promised for years. Can't do a damn thing.
They're going to end up blowing tax reform.
I agree, but what's the fix after that? Budget reconciliation window is up in a couple weeks. After that, any bill proposed has to have 60 votes to pass. Meaning, the R's can't start from square one by themselves. D's will have to be involved, and since they know that, they'll have all the power/say so, and we all know the direction they want to go with health care.
McCain's term ends in 2022. Don't think he will make it that long but either way this will be his last election. Thank goodness.
It is sad that they're this incompetent at governing but, to be fair, full repeal changes the actual laws on the books. It can't be passed under budget reconciliation, and requires 60 votes. So, even if every single R in the Senate was on board, they still wouldn't have enough votes for full repeal.
Crazy they just learned that. You'd think they would have known that and not campaigned on full repeal for 7 straight years up until the day they actually had power.
So no, there's no "to be fair" that involves cutting them any slack. It's fair to judge them based on the fact they promised full repeal and didn't do that. To be fair, I'll refrain from drawing a conclusion on whether or not that was pure incompetence or an intentional lie.
Bill, you called this one dead on a few days ago. Nice work.
Then why not stay out of their mix? F them! We don't have to have anything from them and the only thing we ever wanted was to send our bad for the environment companies there for free labor and oil.
Get out of there and let them crazy bastards blow each other away.
They were probably hoping to win enough seats to have a 60 vote, filibuster proof majority. Didn't turn out that way and now they're stuck with a campaign full of full repeal falsehoods.
I completely agree. You won't get an argument from me. I was just pointing out that it's impossible under the current circumstances. Again, they were either hoping to hold 60 seats or they were lying for votes.
I will say one thing as a matter of fact, though. Even if they weren't lying during those seven years, every single R, since November 9th, was well aware that they only held 52 seats, just like they were well aware it takes 60 votes to change actual law.
So, from that moment on, every single R that was still pushing for full repeal, was purposely being flat out dishonest and/or grandstanding for the base.
This.
It's the only way, and it's so obvious these jackasses can't just let it go.
I don't care what people ran on, the best move is to stay away from this bastard policy and let it destroy itself and eventually the media has no choice but to call it what it is.......a failure just like its originator.
Hopefully Trump spends his Friday night coming up with new ways to insult John McCain. Can't really call out the entire Republican party since he needs tax reform or his Presidency is effectively over.
I really wish he would listen to Rand Paul more. That guy is the smartest SOB in Washington and for whatever reason he just can't sell himself.
You have to wonder how much of this is personal. McCain is dying - he won't last a whole lot longer. I can see him just wanting to be the who sticks it to Trump for being called a coward by him on the campaign trail.
I keep reading this, and I agree to an extent, but then what? No one ever says what happens next after it fails. Here's how I see it going.
Budget reconciliation ends in a couple weeks and after that the R's will need 60 votes and can't start from square one without D support. That gives all the power to the D's. D's will refuse to vote for a new bill unless they get their way, and while R's and D's are arguing it out, millions will have lost their healthcare from Obamacare failing, the media will put all of the blame on the R's for allowing it to fail, then the R's, like always, will cave to the D's, giving them their way because the R's can't take the media heat, and we're one step closer to single payer.
On Hillary wearing a $12,000 coat, Snopes ruled it as "mostly false."
Why? Because it was between $7,000-$12,000 and was on sale for $7,500.
Why? Because it was between $7,000-$12,000 and was on sale for $7,500.
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Here goes the Amish again exerting their influence.
Here goes the Amish again exerting their influence.
And it will all be in vain.
What a great way to spend his dying days.
Maybe Trump should lock him in a cage. That seems to get his cooperation.
McCain probably isn't running for re election so he knows he can stick a knife into Trump and twist it with no repercussions.
Hes one of the most bitter human beings on the planet. He can't retire or die soon enough for me. If that makes me a terrible person, oh well. McCain is much more terrible than I am.
Screw that guy.
Hes one of the most bitter human beings on the planet. He can't retire or die soon enough for me. If that makes me a terrible person, oh well. McCain is much more terrible than I am.
Screw that guy.
Exactly....they know McCain and 3-4 others are key to anything passing. No way Graham would not know how his butt buddy was going to vote.
Mccain was just reelected this past November, he ran on repealing Obamacare.
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SIAP, but good lord that is funny. Comey at Howard U
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Then the private carriers like Aetna, Humana etc set the parameters for health insurance like they should.
Listen I get it, a bunch of poor folks needs better coverage.......and you know what else they needed to do in life earn a living that covered the cost!
I'd love to eat at Ruth Chris every night, but guess what they don't give a shit about my lack of earning potential to pay for it......they aren't making special considerations for me...... whah whah whah.........GTFO.
Sorry for you if you didn't consider this issue before it was an issue. That sucks but I don't want to be taxed on my hard work to cover that cost for you. F you!
And Moe I'm not saying you per se, just Obamacare benefitors
Turned on the game and they were showing the protest so I turned it off.
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All three of them? Won't move the needle.
It will take 30 years to cycle through this generation of career politicians. We'll all be dead before anything actually changes.
