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So it seems like a Chinese company acquired 50,000 H100s on the black market, trained an AI model, and is now pretending they did it for next to no investment (relatively speaking).

If I traded individual stocks, I’d be long NVDA this morning.
I disagree with your analysis. The chips they acquired were not the top dog NVIDA chips. They figured out a way to train the models on these things which typically required bad ass top of the line chips. Then they sent out the source code to show others how to do this stuff on slower chips.

The issue is this. People have a legacy software mindset on AI. Meaning they think there's going to be winners and losers like there is for enterprise software (e.g., SAP, Oracle, Workday, etc.). I think with the GenAI stuff it doesn't really matter. Once you're over some intelligence threshold on it there's litter difference between OpenAI, Google, or whatever other one you use. And if we now know how to produce these AI tools very cheaply, the value of OpenAI goes way down.

The move - and you can see it in the data - is to be in Industrials - the buyers of this tech.
 
They served their time and were eventually pardoned. They also weren't released to go out and commit numerous other felonies.

Thanks for playing numbnut.
They didn't serve their time.
They were pardoned/released early and are now walking the streets believing they have the President's blessing to beat the crap out of cops so long as it's for him.
You're a cop hating idiot if you are ok with that.
 
Hegseth today:

"This is not the way business has been done in the past. This is the Defense Department.

We will support the defense of the territorial integrity of the United States of America at the southern border,
to include reservists, National Guard, and active duty, in compliance with the Constitution, the laws of our land, and the directives of the Commander in Chief.”










 
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Has @sambowieshin fell for flower hysteria yet? Does he know that the US once produced endless flowers especially in California but stopped based on a import trade deal with another country? If not I'm sure he's all in on the coffee hysteria



Also, since we know you were demanding answers after 4 days, bc...you were told to

When do the prices start dropping???
 








Also in defense news, Hegseth today:

"This is not the way business has been done in the past. This is the Defense Department.

We will support the defense of the territorial integrity of the United States of America at the southern border,
to include reservists, National Guard, and active duty, in compliance with the Constitution, the laws of our land, and the directives of the Commander in Chief.”





The iron dome won't do Jack sh** against a hypersonic nuclear weapon. Complete waste of taxpayer dollars.
 
Not saying you aren’t an expert, but I don’t think a degree, even a masters or a doctorate, is quite the flex you think it is/it used to be.
I am not an expert in anything, but the whole scientific process by nature evolves with time. The benefits for vaccines far outweigh any effects. I should have been a little more sensitive about this particular situation, but for the folks that blame vaccines for aggression and autism should be ashamed. Those folks are the reason things like Polio and German Measles are making a comeback in this country.
 
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Mexican President has reversed her stance on non-Mexican deportees.










Sam above is worried about wasted taxpayer money, how about the fact ICE has to chase down a guy that killed a 19 year old cause liberal cities won't allow them access to the jails?






"The worst part about all of this is the fact that Governor Pritzker and Mayor Johnson won’t allow #ICE to go into the jails to get these guys. They refuse to honor their detainers and are simply letting illegal criminals like this guy, and worse, back out onto the streets of Chicago forcing #ICE to waste millions of dollars and put theirs, as well as the communities lives in danger. Democrats like Pritzker and Johnson are traitors to America."
 
I disagree with your analysis. The chips they acquired were not the top dog NVIDA chips. They figured out a way to train the models on these things which typically required bad ass top of the line chips. Then they sent out the source code to show others how to do this stuff on slower chips.

The issue is this. People have a legacy software mindset on AI. Meaning they think there's going to be winners and losers like there is for enterprise software (e.g., SAP, Oracle, Workday, etc.). I think with the GenAI stuff it doesn't really matter. Once you're over some intelligence threshold on it there's litter difference between OpenAI, Google, or whatever other one you use. And if we now know how to produce these AI tools very cheaply, the value of OpenAI goes way down.

The move - and you can see it in the data - is to be in Industrials - the buyers of this tech.


It took hundreds of millions/billions of dollars to get to a point they could develop this model for millions. The claim it took less than $10 million or whatever they’re saying is misleading. Companies can’t just start developing their own models with limited investment.

That’s not to say this wasn’t a market shattering advancement. Open source is likely the future given the companies (and China) who’ve seemingly committed to it. Value is going to be in the data, and more focused models.
 
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I am not an expert in anything, but the whole scientific process by nature evolves with time. The benefits for vaccines far outweigh any effects. I should have been a little more sensitive about this particular situation, but for the folks that blame vaccines for aggression and autism should be ashamed. Those folks are the reason things like Polio and German Measles are making a comeback in this country.


I think you nailed it. The scientific process has evolved over time. What was once asking questions, researching, hypothesizing, experimenting and drawing objective conclusions is now, predominantly, get to the conclusion your financial backers want.

Even better if your financial backers are exempt from liability for any mistakes you make or harm you cause with your conclusions.
 
  1. Trump helped start the inflation during Covid.
  2. I didn't vote for Trump because he was going to solve inflation and don't care if he solves it
  3. Find something else to ding him on cause IDGAF
 
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I see the next wave of npc messaging is again trying to tie trump to project 2025. Its hilarious because the libs are so out of touch. Literally noone cares. If anything, we hope he is executing that plan because its full of common sense ideas getting rid of the insanity.



Good catch and something i didn't consider. So the impact would mostly be messaging because youd have to make over $7 an hour and work 40 hours per week to exceed that amount. Probably not many under 18 working that many hours.
Off topic but are there really places out there that only pay the federal minimum wage? Granted I live in a metro area and businesses would never be able to find employees just paying $7.25?
 
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I think you nailed it. The scientific process has evolved over time. What was once asking questions, researching, hypothesizing, experimenting and drawing objective conclusions is now, predominantly, get to the conclusion your financial backers want.

Even better if your financial backers are exempt from liability for any mistakes you make or harm you cause with your conclusions.
This wasn't going on with Phillip Morris in the 70's and 80's? I think the worst thing to happen in 10 years has been the crumbling of trust in higher ed and governmental agencies.

And I've read enough here to understand the skepticism and I think some points are valid. But if you cannot trust these agencies, who are you going to trust?
 
It's clear that part of the plan is for Tom Homan to control the narrative. Been doing multiple interviews daily...last two days, he has done interviews for the traditional networks, Fox, took Dr. Phil with him to document raids.

He is always matter of fact with his answers, him and JD Vance might be the last 2 people in the whole administration you could fluster.






"If they don't like it, then go to Congress and change the law.”

“We're going to do this operation without apology. We're gonna make our community safer.”

“It is all for the good of this nation. And we're gonna keep going. No apologies. We're moving forward.”






 
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This wasn't going on with Phillip Morris in the 70's and 80's? I think the worst thing to happen in 10 years has been the crumbling of trust in higher ed and governmental agencies.

And I've read enough here to understand the skepticism and I think some points are valid. But if you cannot trust these agencies, who are you going to trust?


I think the worst thing to happen in the past ten years was governmental agencies funding gain of function research developing a virus that leaked from a lab, then coerced censorship of all data in favor of the popular narrative then attempting to force the entire population to inject themselves with experimental gene therapy.

So no, I don’t trust these agencies. Your average podcaster has a better track record over the past decade.

It’s not that you can’t trust the government agencies. You can trust they’ve been captured by the industries upon which they’re supposed to be serving as a watchdog. You can trust they’re working on behalf of pharma, ag, etc., certainly not the American people.
 
I disagree with your analysis. The chips they acquired were not the top dog NVIDA chips. They figured out a way to train the models on these things which typically required bad ass top of the line chips. Then they sent out the source code to show others how to do this stuff on slower chips.

The issue is this. People have a legacy software mindset on AI. Meaning they think there's going to be winners and losers like there is for enterprise software (e.g., SAP, Oracle, Workday, etc.). I think with the GenAI stuff it doesn't really matter. Once you're over some intelligence threshold on it there's litter difference between OpenAI, Google, or whatever other one you use. And if we now know how to produce these AI tools very cheaply, the value of OpenAI goes way down.

The move - and you can see it in the data - is to be in Industrials - the buyers of this tech.

My thinking here is that if true, and China can build out solid ai with crap chips, what is the play when suddenly rock solid chips, like nvda gpu-100's are used?

And for the record, I don't trust China a bit. I think they smuggled in the real chips, banned from China by a Biden EO.
 
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They didn't serve their time.
They were pardoned/released early and are now walking the streets believing they have the President's blessing to beat the crap out of cops so long as it's for him.
You're a cop hating idiot if you are ok with that.

Some of them sat this entire time without ever being convicted.

Why don't you sit this one out, since you don't have a flipping clue about law, jurisprudence, criminal procedure, and constitutional protections, as you've proven literally thousands of times everything you.post about it?
 
I am not an expert in anything, but the whole scientific process by nature evolves with time. The benefits for vaccines far outweigh any effects. I should have been a little more sensitive about this particular situation, but for the folks that blame vaccines for aggression and autism should be ashamed. Those folks are the reason things like Polio and German Measles are making a comeback in this country.

You misspelled unvaccinated third world illegals.
 
Some of them sat this entire time without ever being convicted.

Why don't you sit this one out, since you don't have a flipping clue about law, jurisprudence, criminal procedure, and constitutional protections, as you've proven literally thousands of times everything you.post about it?
Did you back the George Floyd cop beaters too!?
 
My thinking here is that if true, and China can build out solid ai with crap chips, what is the play when suddenly rock solid chips, like nvda gpu-100's are used?

And for the record, I don't trust China a bit. I think they smuggled in the real chips, banned from China by a Biden EO.
AI is going to f up society so bad that I don't think it matters.
 
It's clear that part of the plan is for Tom Homan to control the narrative. Been doing multiple interviews daily...las two days, he has done interviews for the traditional networks, Fox, took Dr. Phil with him to document raids.

He is always matter of fact with his answers, him and JD Vance might be the last 2 people in the whole administration you could fluster.






"If they don't like it, then go to Congress and change the law.”

“We're going to do this operation without apology. We're gonna make our community safer.”

“It is all for the good of this nation. And we're gonna keep going. No apologies. We're moving forward.”







They can’t twist Trump’s words against him this way. No bleach or fine people hoaxes. Admittedly, he mangles things. Trump’s people know that the typical NPC like shinbone really only cares about Trump and have practically no reactions to people like Vance or Homan.

Somebody on Trump’s team has done a lot of planning. The whole thing has been masterful, especially compared to the recent clownshow.
 
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